timelord81r Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 A 2 page spread on how expensive and bad collectormania london was, berating the guests as unknowns and showmasters and the guests worse than bankers for charging fans and that things were sold out when they got in. idiots, thats what the online store is for, and of course we have to pay, we would all love it to be completly free but lol, what world are the sun living in? still its publicitry none the less but they obviously have no idea how the event works or how the fans feel. this was a brilliant event with great guests!!!!!! the sun are idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted December 4, 2009 Moderators Share Posted December 4, 2009 I'd be very interested in reading this if anyone's willing to scan it in. I'm not paying for it, and I can't find it on their website beyond a banner suggesting I buy the paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohan_ Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 just read it, one of the worst reviews I have ever read in terms of an organised event - embaressing stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timelord81r Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 Na i didnt buy it either, someone at work had one and i was perusing it whilst eating a bacon sarnie this morning. yer it was really bad and one (incorrect) sided. yer i looked online but couldnt find anything to link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Fooku Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 (edited) Don't be surprised at anything that rag ever prints, they have stooped far lower than this in their time: http://www.anfieldroad.com/dont-buy-the-sun/ Edited December 4, 2009 by Count Fooku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adriangill Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I'd be very interested in reading this if anyone's willing to scan it in. I'm not paying for it, and I can't find it on their website beyond a banner suggesting I buy the paper. If I get chance I will grab a copy at lunchtime and scan it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted December 4, 2009 Moderators Share Posted December 4, 2009 Excellent, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alx Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Im willing to bet money that this article has stemmed from the other primary board topic... Otherwise it would have been released on Monday! Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufresne Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Interesting point. It could have been considered for the paper earlier in the week and there was no room or they decided not to bother (it was the "dead donkey" that got dropped) but friday's papers tend to be more entertainment heavy, and they would argue that it's better reading towards the weekend. Although I take your point that there are enough wheels-within wheels for this to be the old school tie saying "don't f*ck with the phonejacker". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess83 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I imagine, without meaning to generalise, most people who read The Sun aren't people who would ever dream of attending conventions anyway (sneer at and mock them, though, yes), so I can't imagine any business will be lost or any harm done to SM because of one article in this pathetic rag. The Sun isn't worthy enough to line my cat's litter tray, let alone to be ever taken remotely seriously. Definitely nothing to lose sleep over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufresne Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Yes the paper is like marmite - but it's read by (tens of?) MILLIONS of people daily. One thing it will do is make anyone with a passive interest seek out more info on SM events. I can't see it putting anyone off .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Fooku Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Perhaps another consideration is I understand Showmasters have taken out paid advertisments in the s*n before now (maybe even for the CM London show). Perhaps SM will consider not paying for advertising space in that rag in future if this is the sort of coverage they are going to recieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelkitty Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I imagine, without meaning to generalise, most people who read The Sun aren't people who would ever dream of attending conventions anyway (sneer at and mock them, though, yes), so I can't imagine any business will be lost or any harm done to SM because of one article in this pathetic rag. The Sun isn't worthy enough to line my cat's litter tray, let alone to be ever taken remotely seriously. Definitely nothing to lose sleep over. Totally agree! I've not read it (because I really, really won't buy, read or touch the Sun if I have to), but most of the readership won't be thinking of Cons, other than to go 'Look at these sad ppl, they really think they are something special with their 'sci-fi'. They are just nerds' *giggle* They fail to realise that the g33k shall inherit the earth *giggle* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BYNSIS Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 theres usually a copy of the sun at work so I'm gonna have to read the article if its there! I agree with you all though, the people reading it will see us all as nerds but frankly who cares? I love being a nerd if it means meeting my fave actors and actresses =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted December 4, 2009 Moderators Share Posted December 4, 2009 Considering the celebrity culture surrounded newspapers like The Sun, it's probably more likely to get a few people thinking "wow, I could actually meet .." than "why would anyone want to do this?!" .. Did they not do something similar with Music Mania or some event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarknessHayz Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I dont buy the Sun anyway, its always slates my football team, so I dont buy it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraHawk Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I think the basic thing is if you aren't in the club, you just won't see the appeal of paying for autographs. It is a niche market the masses have no interest in understanding. It's no coincidence the guests are made up of certain genres - they are also niche markets. All of which can be looked down upon as 'sad', easy to mock. Someone I work with likes sci-fi, but thinks I'm nuts paying for autographs - and that's from actors he's heard of. (I'd get the Star Wars tea lady if I could!) real life astronauts £100 a time, he understands. I dare say the effect is amplified in London, many a 'celebrity' will sign for free at a theatre, premiere what have you. Still you have to see the irony of worrying about misrepresentation from one individual, to only then be stabbed in the back by the invited press. I doubt it somehow. Live by the sword die by the sword. Be happy with what you have rather than trying to be bigger and better than before by seeking the free publicity of the masses. Good and bad. Although I take your point that there are enough wheels-within wheels for this to be the old school tie saying "don't f*ck with the phonejacker". Well yes I did think the idea of getting into a public slanging match with an actor, a production company and a TV company could do more harm to relations than the incident itself. If they are your source of income. I can understand people worrying on guests' behalf (past and future), but I'd hope that guests would look at where it was published and, like me, go 'pfft'. They get paid, I doubt they care in that way. But even in the other thread there were people who didn't want to be seen on TV, as if attending an event is something to be ashamed of. I'm not ashamed to attend(past caring) but I wouldn't want certain people knowing how much the things cost me. They'd disown me all IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen_Sindel Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Did they not do something similar with Music Mania or some event? I can't remember if it was The Sun. But yes, pretty much the same thing happened with MusicMania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufresne Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 They kicked the sh12 out of MusicMania - to be fair though, even SM accept that this was a bad idea. They had a few decent guests, but an event full of ex-boyband members and the like was never going to get praise heaped on it in the press. In terms of entertainment stories, tabloids only care (perhaps understandably) about what's hot NOW. I wouldn't mind, but the Music Mania guests were probably all over their pages a few years earlier. Entertainment is a fickle industry - we don't see it because most of us on this forum and who attend the events are much more into pop culture than the "general" public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brockie76 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I've just read it!!! what a pile a cack!!!!! I have never EVER read so much rubbish in my life!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberdrunk Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 (edited) I wouldn't bother with what it says, its to written to get a reaction. This David Lowe has to be a fan who must of had a bad experience. perhaps he expected a chat with Barrowman while 100's of people waited behind him, I don't know! Seems strange as Autographica got a good review. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/featu...not-Waynes.html Edited December 4, 2009 by cyberdrunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naurarwen_fangorn Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 (edited) Read the article, and what a load of codswollop (please feel free to enter your own word) I'm tempted to email the writer and tell him to try talking to some of us fans who have been going to Collectormania since the beginning. I've made some awesome friends through conventions and met some amazing stars. Yeah sometimes I have felt alittle miffed when I pay my £15 for my auto and don't even get a hello but at the end of the day the guests are there to do a job and yes that is sometimes to get through as many fans as possible, personally I'd rather meet a guest and just get to say hi (even if I don't get a response) rather then not have the chance to meet them at all because the guest talks to each person for 5 mins. Edited December 4, 2009 by naurarwen_fangorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fray101 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Well, I have to admit I spent a stupid amount of money last weekend - and at numerous events in the past. Would it be better spent elsewhere? Probably. But would I change the fun I have at the events or the friends I've made? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splatterman Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 people are going to have fun at this kind of event, and people aren't. it just so happened that one person who didn't also wrote for the Sun, doesn't mean that the people who didn't enjoy out weigh the people who did. i completely disagree with him calling some guests no-namer's or whatever phrase he used as thats someone's career and life he's insulting. he's clearly just bitter as JB didn't talk to him as much as he liked, get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BYNSIS Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 It annoys me when they call some of the guests 'no namers' or whatever it was, just because they don't know who the guest is doesn't mean that others don't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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