BILL NIGHY: Are you happy with the BIG announcement?

[indio]

hey rich, burt is the man. hey dufresne i think jaws has had his breakfast. david b. GROW UP.

 

As for david b. i will keep him in my larder with the rest of the hanging meat.

[indio]

hey poppy, nothing against you, ive met you and you are nice. xxx

[indio]

indio loves poppy. xx

[chris_mk]

hey rich, burt is the man. hey dufresne i think jaws has had his breakfast. david b. GROW UP.

 

As for david b. i will keep him in my larder with the rest of the hanging meat.

 

That's a bit rich, coming from someone who can't use the Caps key correctly... and who has 'never heard' of Bill Nighy, despite him being in the biggest film of 2006....

[terry_funk]

i never heard of him till now. however i advice anyone who is dissapointed to not say anything otherwise you will have david b. breathing down your neck.

 

 

LOL!!!

[sagart]

I would think that Richard D. Anderson would be a bigger surprise or Scott Bakula.

No disrespect but if it was either of them I would have been disappointed as they are TV stars and not film stars and are thus just not the same calibre.

 

 

I'm not usually one to get into stuff here but this comment stopped me in my tracks.

 

Why aren't TV stars the same calibre as movie stars?

[A007]

I was happy with the announcement. But "Big" had me thinking the likes of Mark Hamill, Eva Green, Christopher Lee etc so I suppose it was a bit of an anticlimax. That said he's a decent guest and I will be meeting him for Shaun of the Dead.

[rickyparty]

A great guest announcement, he certainly did steal the show in Love Actually and as he was in Hot Fuzz and Shaun Of The Dead it means my brother will probably meet him too.

[nicky]

Why aren't TV stars the same calibre as movie stars?

TV stars dont have the longevity that movie stars do cos they are only in the limelight while their shows are in season.

 

Eg. before Desperate Houswives people had pretty much forgotten about Teri Hatcher since Lois & Clark but even dead movie stars and screen legends like John Wayne, James Dean and Cary Grant etc will always be remembered. Films are also more widely distrubuted throughout the world.

 

The TV industry doesnt have anything as big time like the Oscars either and movie directors are famous (Speilberg, Cameron, Jackson) but TV directors are not compared to film (I can't even think of one), TV is just not big time. Films are more widely seen and talked about - people remember scenes and lines and characters...TV doesnt have that same immortality or the budgets and studio power and are thus not as advanced in production technology or craft.

Edited April 22, 2007 by nicky

[flinty]

i'd have to disagree with you there nicky "TV doesnt have that same immortality" star trek,dr.who etc are all pretty much set in stone although you are probably right on most aspects people like shatner etc are pretty much legends of the tv screen and are a lot more famous than most film actors

[Darth_Owl]

He's not what I'd class as a big guest. He's one of those actors who has been in a lot of films, but for the most part he's played extras or characters that really aren't memorable.

 

To be honest, I thought Davey Jones was pretty rubbish in the 2nd film - was hoping for much more to be honest. He's not a patch on Barbossa (now he would have been a big guest - Jeffrey Rush!)

 

Patrick Stewart and Mads Mikkelsen are arguably bigger and more recognisable than Nighy - don't remember the fanfare for the announcement of Mads, or indeed for Brandon Routh or Charisma Carpenter - both of whom are instantly recognisable for what they have done....

[rich5wolves]

i'd have to disagree with you there nicky "TV doesnt have that same immortality" star trek,dr.who etc are all pretty much set in stone although you are probably right on most aspects people like shatner etc are pretty much legends of the tv screen and are a lot more famous than most film actors

Shatner has done the Star Trek films to though.............

 

Dufresne - No

 

Indio - Keep up the good work, Burt is a legend!!!!!!!!!!

[nicky]

Mads Mikkelsen are arguably bigger and more recognisable than Nighy - don't remember the fanfare for the announcement of Mads, or indeed for Brandon Routh or Charisma Carpenter

I never knew who Mads was before Casino Royale or before I saw his name annoucned nor Charisma Carpenter beforre I saw her name here. I just dont watch TV and never watched Buffy etc. My heart is in movies.

 

 

i'd have to disagree with you there nicky "TV doesnt have that same immortality" star trek,dr.who etc are all pretty much set in stone

Star Trek is about one of the only expecptions but they have spawned a movie franchiose too and had film stars co-starring in them...Dunno about Dr. Who though. And besides, Shatner et all are more known for the TV stuff rather than film...I mean he's no De Niro, Michael Caine or Harrison Ford. Edited April 22, 2007 by nicky

[DavidB]

I would say that the majority of actors/actresses that do TV would aspire to end up in film, as that's been seen as THE medium for many years now.

 

However with the higher production values of TV shows these days, you do get a fair few movie stars doing television mini-series or whatever. I think TV has become far more respectable and valued over the past decade or so due to the budgets available.

 

I don't think it's seen just as the stepping stone to Hollywood that it once was, and I can understand why television stars are so popular at events - you can meet someone that had a 5 minute part in one movie, or someone that you've watched for 24 episodes a year ..

 

I love both to be honest, and there are 'big' guests for me from both mediums.

[indio]

thanks rich.

[paul]

and who has 'never heard' of Bill Nighy, despite him being in the biggest film of 2006....

 

 

Ive never heard of him. I wouldnt recognise the name but I recognise his face! He is a HUGE catch for SM but I feel he perhaps didnt deserve an announcement that there was going to be a big announcement.

Which other guests in SM history have had an announcement to announce there was going to be an annoucement!??

 

Unnecessary? Yes.

[sagart]

Why aren't TV stars the same calibre as movie stars?

TV stars dont have the longevity that movie stars do cos they are only in the limelight while their shows are in season.

 

Eg. before Desperate Houswives people had pretty much forgotten about Teri Hatcher since Lois & Clark but even dead movie stars and screen legends like John Wayne, James Dean and Cary Grant etc will always be remembered. Films are also more widely distrubuted throughout the world.

 

The TV industry doesnt have anything as big time like the Oscars either and movie directors are famous (Speilberg, Cameron, Jackson) but TV directors are not compared to film (I can't even think of one), TV is just not big time. Films are more widely seen and talked about - people remember scenes and lines and characters...TV doesnt have that same immortality or the budgets and studio power and are thus not as advanced in production technology or craft.

 

If SM managed to get Kelsey Grammer, John Cleese (still best remembered for Basil Fawlty), Rowan Atkinson, Jerry Seinfeld, the voice cast of The Simpsons, the cast of the Sopranos, Matthew Perry or any of the cast of Friends, Bill Cosby, Alan Alda, David Duchovny, Gillian Anderson, Patrick McNee or David Jason I would be over the moon, as would many others I would guess.

 

The reason you don't know many TV directors is that the writer/producer is the big noise in TV - Gene Roddenberry, Joss Whedon, Glen A Larson, J Michael Straczynski, Aaron Spelling, Aaron Sorkin, etc 9(Imagine the crowd Joss Whedon would get at a Coolectormania!!)

 

It's interesting to see how many movie stars have found increased fame in TV - Keifer Sutherland, Martin Sheen, Gary Sinise are arguably better known now to a wider audience than they ever were in movies. (BTW, SM? Any chance of getting one of these guys?)

 

TV deserves respect, perhaps now more than ever.

 

Shatner et all are more known for the TV stuff rather than film...I mean he's no De Niro, Michael Caine or Harrison Ford.

 

Go wash your mouth out with soap!! He's Captain Freaking Kirk!!!

[KURGAN]

this is an exelent guest, not the first person most people think off when the words big announcment are made but a guest of quality and one of the people i will definatly be meeting.

 

nice one sm

[chris_mk]

and who has 'never heard' of Bill Nighy, despite him being in the biggest film of 2006....

 

 

Ive never heard of him. I wouldnt recognise the name but I recognise his face! He is a HUGE catch for SM but I feel he perhaps didnt deserve an announcement that there was going to be a big announcement.

Which other guests in SM history have had an announcement to announce there was going to be an annoucement!??

 

Unnecessary? Yes.

 

Umm, in the past, SM have often announced an impending announcement.... and if you read their post, it mentions that the reason they were doing that on this occasion was to stress-test the forum.

 

Bill Nighy is the biggest *current* actor that SM have ever managed to get. I won't debate whether Shatner is bigger, or Carrie Fisher etc, but they appeared at an even years after the thing that they were most famous for. Bill Nighy has a film out this summer which stands a reasonable chance of being in the top three films of the year!

 

Why aren't TV stars the same calibre as movie stars?

TV stars dont have the longevity that movie stars do cos they are only in the limelight while their shows are in season.

 

Eg. before Desperate Houswives people had pretty much forgotten about Teri Hatcher since Lois & Clark but even dead movie stars and screen legends like John Wayne, James Dean and Cary Grant etc will always be remembered. Films are also more widely distrubuted throughout the world.

 

The TV industry doesnt have anything as big time like the Oscars either and movie directors are famous (Speilberg, Cameron, Jackson) but TV directors are not compared to film (I can't even think of one), TV is just not big time. Films are more widely seen and talked about - people remember scenes and lines and characters...TV doesnt have that same immortality or the budgets and studio power and are thus not as advanced in production technology or craft.

 

If SM managed to get Kelsey Grammer, John Cleese (still best remembered for Basil Fawlty), Rowan Atkinson, Jerry Seinfeld, the voice cast of The Simpsons, the cast of the Sopranos, Matthew Perry or any of the cast of Friends, Bill Cosby, Alan Alda, David Duchovny, Gillian Anderson, Patrick McNee or David Jason I would be over the moon, as would many others I would guess.

 

The reason you don't know many TV directors is that the writer/producer is the big noise in TV - Gene Roddenberry, Joss Whedon, Glen A Larson, J Michael Straczynski, Aaron Spelling, Aaron Sorkin, etc 9(Imagine the crowd Joss Whedon would get at a Coolectormania!!)

 

It's interesting to see how many movie stars have found increased fame in TV - Keifer Sutherland, Martin Sheen, Gary Sinise are arguably better known now to a wider audience than they ever were in movies. (BTW, SM? Any chance of getting one of these guys?)

 

TV deserves respect, perhaps now more than ever.

 

Shatner et all are more known for the TV stuff rather than film...I mean he's no De Niro, Michael Caine or Harrison Ford.

 

Go wash your mouth out with soap!! He's Captain Freaking Kirk!!!

 

 

I don't know if you are aware, but SM HAVE had lead actors from both the Simpsons and the Sopranos?

 

The main reason why film people are considered 'bigger', is because they get paid a LOT more and it's way more common for TV people to move onto the big screen when their careers take off, where as actors moving from film to TV, tend to be heading the other way (even if they do get a career boost.) Plus, in truth, I think film actors have a better quality to them. Controversial maybe, but look at actors who have moved from film to TV (like William Peterson, Martin Sheen and Keifer SUtherland), then lift the shows and win all the awards, where as actors and actresses moving the other way tend to struggle.

[dazzlerjames]

Shouldn't film people be at a FILM and comic Con anyway? That was my main complaint last year, there were lots of guests from TV. I'm abit like Nicky I don't watch much TV so a Film con should be just that.

 

Bill Nighy is a big announcement as he is a current (Hollywood if you include POTC) film star. Most of the guests that any con get are past their best but this time it's current (let's just hope that like another current hollywood star who was scheduled at another event he doesn't cancel 2 days before!!)

[vectis]

i was getting all excited thinking of who the big guest announcement was gonna be and when i saw bill nighy i wasnt over excited to be honest, sure i think hes a really great actor and i thought he was the best thing in love actually and stole all the scenes he was in in shaun on the dead, but im not a big enough fan to bother queueing to meet him,

 

No disrespect but if it was either of them I would have been disappointed as they are TV stars and not film stars and are thus just not the same calibre.

 

i agree that some film stars are in a totally differnt league but for a majority of people actors from a really big/popular tv show will be far more recognisable than a really excellent but not huge film star, everyone will know the cast of star trek TOS and most people will recognise the cast of friends, tv is in our homes 24/7 so even if you dont watch a popular show you will prob know about it, for example i haven't watched a single ep lost but i still know who the actors are, people who arent film fans wont have heard of loads of really great actors because the most exposure they get is trailers and maybe a few talk show appreances while the film is hot, no way can you say that Patrick Stewart who is mainly known for tv is a lesser star Mads Mikkelsen who is known for Casino Royal (no disrespect to Mads thou who i know has done loads of really great work)

[chris_mk]

i was getting all excited thinking of who the big guest announcement was gonna be and when i saw bill nighy i wasnt over excited to be honest, sure i think hes a really great actor and i thought he was the best thing in love actually and stole all the scenes he was in in shaun on the dead, but im not a big enough fan to bother queueing to meet him,

 

But like most half the posts on this thread, you're commenting on personal taste, rather than the actual 'size' of the announcement.

 

SM could announce Sarah Michelle Gellar, or Burt Reynolds and half the people here would STILL go 'meh'.

 

As I mentioned previously, whether you like him or not, Bill Nighy IS the biggest *current* name guest that SM have ever had. Name another actor who has appeared prominently in a top grossing film within 12 months of appearing at an event.

[sagart]

 

I don't know if you are aware, but SM HAVE had lead actors from both the Simpsons and the Sopranos?

 

look at actors who have moved from film to TV then lift the shows and win all the awards, where as actors and actresses moving the other way tend to struggle.

 

Yeah, I know there's been Simpson and Soprano guests; more would be nice though.

 

As for TV actors struggling when they move to the movies - yeah, Johnny Depp, Bruce Willis, Jim Carrey, George Clooney and Tom Hanks are really struggling!!

 

I think there are actors working in TV who are truly brilliant - we see so much of it here in the UK - comedies like Porridge, Fawlty Towers, Open All Hours, Only Fools and Horses, Blackadder, etc have shown the cream of comedy acting while dramas like Cracker, Prime Suspect, Boys from the Blackstuff, Inspector Morse, etc have showcased some of the best acting even captured on screen.

 

Just because movies are more glamour and glitz doesn't make them better in the department that matters - quality.

 

Maybe I'm going off on my own hobby horse here -I know that if SM got Harrison Ford for LFCC, I would camp out all night to get his autograph, but we shouldn't say that TV stars are not of the same calibre as their movie brothers and sisters.

[surfy_sah]

I agree that Bill Nighy IS the biggest *current* *movie* guest SM have ever had, unless you count Christopher Lee, but he didn't actually appear so and, as some one has pointed out, it is London FILM and Comic Con, so it fits perfectly AND PotC: At World's End will be one of the bigget films of this summer so it's pretty impressive!

 

personally, I might meet him for PotC as I didn't get him at the premier last year but he's not an announcement that made me go "OMG!" and jump around the room I would have been more excited over a rare signer from a favourite tv show I have watched for years such as Stargate or 24 etc etc

 

as for the calibre of TV guests vs movie guests, I disagree. how can you compare some one, for example, Richard Dean Anderson, who did 10years of Stargate SG1, the longest running sci-fi tv show EVER and the former star of McGuyver the tv series and movies to a movie star, for example, Brandon Routh? yes he is known for Superman Returns, which is very recent, and no, maybe you're not a Stargate fan and, by some ignorance, haven't heard of RDA, but you can't compare a legend of the silver screen for over 2 decades (McGuyver started in 1985) to a I've-done-one-well-known-movie star. Obviously if comparing to the likes of Harrison Ford or maybe even Johnny Depp, even my NAN has heard of Pirates of the Caribbean and Star Wars and Indiana Jones but she wouldn't have heard of Stargate, so it's all relative really! but don't just think because some one is predominently a tv star they are "inferior" to a movie star.

 

surfy sah xx

[frank]

Forgive me I’m new to the board, and wouldn’t like to annoy anybody with my first post.

 

But personally, I’d welcome bringing in a three tier announcement strategy. Because there seems to be some confusion on the classification of how ‘big’ is ‘big’; this guy is from a current film yes, but in no way would he feature in the top 100, or even top 1000 actors of all time.

 

For this poll I’d vote ‘no’, because he isn’t a cinema great, in my book.

 

But judging by this result - If you minus the ‘Showmasters gang’, and ‘the younger vote’ from these results. I’m sure that you’d have more ‘no’s’ than ‘yeses’.