Hayden Is My Hero Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I think it's totally understandable why people are concerned, especially with less-fortunate events such as Lockdown. I do have faith that SM/ME will get some good names and I think that E2 will be as great as E1. However, until more guests are announced me and my friends probably won't be buying our tickets any time now. Guest bookings are understandable, however I think SM could at least announce party themes. However, let's look forward to E2! I'm sure it'll be great!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestat Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I am focused on C14 at the moment which is going to turn out very well with the later guest announcements and hopefully Eclipse 2 will be the same. SM & ME are in a difficult position trying to sign up great guests from a show which is still active and filming so I am confident we will see some excellent guests at E2 however the announcements will be close to the event which i can understand will cause some concern. At the end of the day at least the closer the guests are announced the smaller the chance of cancellation, I know I would be gutted if they announced Masi Oka for example and then he had to cancel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenatalia Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I'm in the middle of writing, so not going to bother writing my opinion regarding guests. But I'd love some party themes to be announced soon to give some advance as I don't want to be searching for something to wear at the last minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyT Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Are people going to keep using Lockdown as an example for like the rest of SM and ME's existence? Don't get me wrong, I know it was a very unfortunate set of circumstances, and things really did go wrong. However, I'm unsure of what it'll take for people to stop referring back to that, and stop assuming that every event is going to go that way. It's simply a question of track record, isn't it? As far as signing events go, SM have a very good record, but if you look at conventions, it's rather more patchy: Eclipse, Lockdown, Chevron 7, Aftermath, Better Than Life (and they can be excused boots on another show UK and FedconUK). Looking at the reactions to those events, one could characterise that as one that went well (E), one that went badly (L), one that was OK-ish (C7), one that was cancelled (BTL), and in the absence of much feedback about Aftermath (perhaps unsurprising given the fairly small number of attendees) one assumes it was on the good side of OK. Hardly a sparkling roll of honour. Throw in the fact that Empire Weekend appears to be MIA, and things have gone ominously quiet on the Lockdown II front, and perhaps you can see why people have concerns. I think the simple answer is that when SM/ME have a string of several acclaimed conventions under their belts, then Lockdown will become an atypical data point, an obvious exception. But at the moment it's just a low point in a series of mixed data, and is arguably almost as relevant a pointer as Eclipse. Assuming that the next 3,4,5 conventions come off largely successfully (and it'll only be a few months before that happens) then probably nobody will be able to cite Lockdown again as a "likely" outcome, without seeming churlishly selective. But until then I think it's very much "in the mix" when people are considering previous convention "performance". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccergirl Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I think the problem is that if SM doesnt give us (good) new guests people wont buy tickets and if they dont buy tickets they cant give us new guests thats a devils trap would be interesting to know how many tickets are left in general havent bought mine yet I dont know about lockdown or anything ... this would be my first con (sadly I couldnt make it to e1 even though I had tickets) so I am really hoping on the words "new guest announcement on monday" or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pez Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 nice to see i didn't miss anything then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot_head Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 I'd just like Party themes............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivaan Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Boo. So how has everyone been? I can't wait, less than 2 month to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted September 20, 2008 Moderators Share Posted September 20, 2008 Excuse me, you're not allowed to say anything until the end of the convention. Go back into hiding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivaan Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 ... Yes sir. *skulks off* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pez Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 huggles rivaan! you been far to quite for far to long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivaan Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 (edited) I know, sorry 'bout that! But I'm here now to make a little noise leading up to the event! Edited September 21, 2008 by Rivaan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinny83 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 (edited) by this time before Eclipse 1 we had had 4 guests announced (granted 3 of them cancelled and were replaced) and the party themes, come on SM, we need to know the party themes so we have plenty of time to think of and put togther our costumes. Edited September 22, 2008 by Quinny83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pez Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 i'm loving the fact that we all seem to be more conserned what were going to wear for the party! lol who know maybe the first two epies of season 3 wil give us a cracking theme... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lams9999 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I'm definitely not ! Now I can safely say that every other event organized by Showmasters or Massive Events have had guest announcements while Eclipse 2 is still stuck with the same 2 guests. I have now decided about a deadline after which I won't attend the event and will prefer going to that event in Germany or stay home. My trust in this event has declined exponentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bregi Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I'm definitely not ! Now I can safely say that every other event organized by Showmasters or Massive Events have had guest announcements while Eclipse 2 is still stuck with the same 2 guests. I have now decided about a deadline after which I won't attend the event and will prefer going to that event in Germany or stay home. My trust in this event has declined exponentially. Can you give me information about the event in germany? I haven't heard anything about that and I'm very interested in that.. Greez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lams9999 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Well, we are not allowed to talk about other events here so I would just say that it is horror based and it's in Bottrop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambourne Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I'm definitely not ! Now I can safely say that every other event organized by Showmasters or Massive Events have had guest announcements while Eclipse 2 is still stuck with the same 2 guests. I have now decided about a deadline after which I won't attend the event and will prefer going to that event in Germany or stay home. My trust in this event has declined exponentially. Not true - Lockdown didn't have a guest announcement for four and a bit months and the party themes weren't announced until just a few weeks before the event and that turned out to be an amazing event! At the time of Lockdown it felt as though Eclipse 1 was getting most of SM's attention and this time the tables have flipped, The Hub seems to get the attention (I'm not saying SM do favor one event over another, they have no reason to, but when you come on 10 times a day to check for update it does feel that way LOL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jael001 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 No offence Lambourne, but I was at Lockdown, and while it was ok and I had fun, it can in no way be described as an "amazing event". I had a Gold Pass for that one too and it was definitely not value for money, and at the moment it looks like my Gold Pass for Eclipse 2 wont be either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted September 23, 2008 Moderators Share Posted September 23, 2008 I would imagine guests are far easier to get for The Hub as it's for a UK show with UK based guests. A lot of them are only 'guest' stars anyway with no huge committments - no offence to them obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzy Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 As exceedingly happy I am about the Buffy con, I can't get tickets for it until after Eclipse... so I'd rather see announcements for that first! A con over a year away has had a guest and a party announced, and this only has 2 guests... so sort of equivalent! I still have total faith in SM of course!! It'd just be so nice to hear some news while I'm having two totally busy weeks to the point I can't think straight... and I scratched my naffing eye! (Hope its better for CM or I'm gona be winking at everyone!!) I need good news that isn't for a year away, but for the weekend after my first mahoosive exam! I seriously need something to look forward to or i'm gona cry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambourne Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 No offence Lambourne, but I was at Lockdown, and while it was ok and I had fun, it can in no way be described as an "amazing event". I had a Gold Pass for that one too and it was definitely not value for money, and at the moment it looks like my Gold Pass for Eclipse 2 wont be either. Each to there own I guess. It was my first (and until Lockdown 2 will be my only) hotel convention so I have nothing to compare it too. The fact it wasn't crowded and the guests were able to come to the parties etc. meant you got to know them a lot more than you would at events such as Eclipse 1 (from what I read on here) or LFACC which, in my opinion, made it an amazing event for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lams9999 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Lambourne, I was referring to the fact that since this thread has been started (30 of August I think), announcements have been made for C14, Autographica, The Hub, Midlands and even for all the events next year (Twilight, Chevron 7.2, LFCC). Today we even have another event planned for november 2009 !! But still no guests for E2 !! And if you were happy with Lockdown, good for you. But if the same happens for Eclipse 2, I will clearly be unhappy and will definitely let it know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyn Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 bites fingernails.. come on with the guest annoucements i'm starting to get nervous.. Lockdown was a hoot but not an amazing convention, everyone made the most of it and had a good time, im really hoping for more from eclipse 2 i'm waiting for a couple of weeks before i start panicking but still i've stopped checking every day this time before eclipse 1 i was on all the time chatting there were threads up every where , this time the forum seems a bit ghost like. Plus i miss the excitement of guest annoucements seems forever since i had a rush home for guest annoucements at 7pm and refresh like crazy more of that please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babygurl1853 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Yeah i agree completely i've hardly been on here lately because there doesnt seem to be as much buzz and excitement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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