Queen_Sindel Posted May 30, 2005 Share Posted May 30, 2005 *flies over the atlantic and lands in Vegas* Blimey it's hot here! You're in the wrong town. LOL They actually film most of the show in Los Angeles - hence the California Lottery store goof. As far as I know, they only film in Vegas a week or so during a season. I heard that, they just film there to get the looks over LV that they play for a few seconds at a time in each ep! cool stuff! what about when there is stuff filmed in the desert? is that not LV either?! and what about the casino stuff?!?! but I suppose other States have those and rocks with sand! I *think* it is. At least the stuff where you see the casinos on the horizon. The rest is probably LA. There was an interview about that with a location manager in the production notes of one of the box sets. Can't remember which one anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted May 30, 2005 Share Posted May 30, 2005 California has a desert too, so who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippin Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Ha I have a goof. Ok, in season four "invisible evidence" the scene where the vic's sister is in reception and talks to warrick a blond lady in a black top walks behind him... Warrick leaves and Nick steps in, the SAME blonde lady walks behind Nick. Are they running out of extras? Because I'll sure as hell step in! Maybe it was a glitch in the matrix dude XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutley Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Last nights one. Tinder box. The woman was said to have 80% burns to her body and most of that was 3rd degree. So why at the end when she opens her eyes she still had her eyelashes? They would have been frazzled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinababy Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 I let them get away with that as I'm sure the actress didn't want them pulling her eyelashes out just for the part!! There is something that Bugs me about Spark of Life though, why didn't we get some continuity with Greg and his personal experience with being burned? Eric played the part as if he was personally affected, but then we see him asking the doctor about things he would have had done to himself. We should have had at least one line acknowledging that Greg had suffered burns too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Ha I have a goof. Ok, in season four "invisible evidence" the scene where the vic's sister is in reception and talks to warrick a blond lady in a black top walks behind him... Warrick leaves and Nick steps in, the SAME blonde lady walks behind Nick. Are they running out of extras? Because I'll sure as hell step in! Maybe it was a glitch in the matrix dude XD OH NO!!! THEY'RE COMING FOR US! *opens a door and runs into a wall* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfy_sah Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 (edited) I let them get away with that as I'm sure the actress didn't want them pulling her eyelashes out just for the part!! There is something that Bugs me about Spark of Life though, why didn't we get some continuity with Greg and his personal experience with being burned? Eric played the part as if he was personally affected, but then we see him asking the doctor about things he would have had done to himself. We should have had at least one line acknowledging that Greg had suffered burns too. Tinderbox was the Miami one aye, with Ben Bowder? so Spark of Life was the one with the fire and the burnt woman?! good points from Mutley and Tinababy! I also agree with the point about Greg, I presume you are refrencing him getting burnt when the lab blew up in Play with Fire (s3)? it was going so well, his acting was spot on and everything but yeah something should have been said to remind viewers or for viewers that might have missed that ep! and also put it properly into context! poor babes! *huggles Greg* Luv sah xx EDIT: congrats MUTLEY on your 200th post!!!!!! Edited June 1, 2005 by surfy_sah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutley Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 EDIT: congrats MUTLEY on your 200th post!!!!!! Yay 200 posts, well 201 now, balloons for everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 i have to admit..i never see the mistakes until someone points them out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfy_sah Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 any more for any more? Luv sah xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfy_sah Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 in the ep where a little boy kills his brother for telling people he wets the bed and where a hotel manager has murdered flight attendents in their rooms after raping them, Greg picks up a coffee cup as evidence without wearing gloves true he is looking for DNA and not fingerprints but stil!!! Luv sah xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgteddy Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 When I see the episode again :) I'll look out for it. So far I havnen't seen any goofs, but I'm usually bad at spotting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippin Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Ha I have a goof. Ok, in season four "invisible evidence" the scene where the vic's sister is in reception and talks to warrick a blond lady in a black top walks behind him... Warrick leaves and Nick steps in, the SAME blonde lady walks behind Nick. Are they running out of extras? Because I'll sure as hell step in! Maybe it was a glitch in the matrix dude XD OH NO!!! THEY'RE COMING FOR US! *opens a door and runs into a wall* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! 789292[/snapback] just remember to duck all the bullets instead of grabbing lots of guns and shooting the wall that is impossible to break through! -dives into dry wall- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfy_sah Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 any more for any more? Luv sah xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crippsy_99 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 (edited) Ooo..I got one! Miami episode 2.4 "Death grip" After they flush the croc's stomach and find the shoe/foot, Delko goes off to the side and has a moan to Calleigh about how no-one cars for hispanic victims etc When the camera's behind Delko looking at Calleigh, he has a load of sweat down the middle of his back and quite noticable..When the camera's behind Calleigh though looking at Delko, he keeps moving around and clearly DOESNT have the sweat mark all down his back! Its little things like that I notice Stupid media center wont screen cap or id have done a couple Edited July 14, 2006 by crippsy_99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrules Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 I have about a thousand goofs for Vegas - for people who have people who have actually been Crime Scene *Analysts* on site, the writers sure mess up their forensic science a lot... I love the show to pieces, but I watch more for Jorja these days than the science... forensics training really makes you notice the problems... Here goes... 1) From "Feeling the Heat" - The major issue for this one is that the lab finds organophosphates in the baby's system. When Catherine searches the family's shed for pesticides, she takes a bottle of weed killer- you wouldn't. Organosphosphates are insecticides... not weed killers... and yes, they are VERY different chemically. Even if Catherine's not to know that, you'd think they'd tell her exactly what she's looking for... 2) This one's not really a forensics issue, but it is science... Grissom's hearing condition (ostosclerosis) is not irreversible... There's an operation called a stapendectomy which can reverse the condition. 3) They RARELY mark or identify evidence, and the kind of evidence packaging is often completely wrong. When collecting evidence, the proper procedures are normally to place evidence into a primary container, which is then sealed, and then this container is placed inside a secondary container. The outer container should then be marked with information about the items contained; identification of the collector; date; time; and location of collection of the item. Evidence tape completely covering the opening of the outer container is then added and marked with the intitals of the collector and the date and time of collection. 4) ALS are not used nearly as often as shown in the show. When they are used, it is primarily used to detect hair, fibers and body fluids. 5) CSIs do not interrogate suspects in homocide or any other felony offense, and they're not trained to do that. Legally, the case would most likely be thrown out of court if this happened, as proper procedure has not been followed. 6) When the CSIs sit in on autopsies, they rarely wear any kind of mask or eye protection... it doesn't normally happen, and even if masks aren't worn, eye protection should be, because you never know whether the victim has some kind of disease carried in bodily fluids, such as HIV. 7) It is impossible to determine time of death to within an hour or two, as is often done in the show. Normally, the best they can give you is a 6 hour window... oftentimes this isn't even possible. 8) Where homocide is concerned, the CSIs would not be allowed onto the scene before the Medical Examiner. 9) CSI seems to think that a Medical Examiner and a coroner is the same thing... it isn't. 10) They often talk about the hyoid bone being broken in cases of homicide by strangulation. It very rarely is. Yes, it is a sign that the death was caused by strangulation, but as it rarely happens, it's not one of the first things that will be looked for in autopsy. 11) Timings are of course a major issue, but we expect this. I mean, how can they fit a 3 month wait for a result on tox testing into one hour of TV? They will do this to add to entertainment, and of course they have time constraints, and it doesn't really bother me, but I know a lot of people who have real issues with it. 12) A Crime Lab will normally be working up to a dozen cases at one time, rather than the 1 or 2 that CSI normally shows. Again, I realize that time is a constraint... but maybe just a little bit more activity around the team in the lab? There are hundreds of others, but I'll have to rewatch CSI to pick up on all of them again, and I just don't have time right now to watch 6 seasons and analyse them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quirky Koala Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 8) Where homocide is concerned, the CSIs would not be allowed onto the scene before the Medical Examiner. Actually that's not true. The CSI's have to clear a path to the body and collect any evidence in that approach path. The CSI's don't touch the body until the medical examiner is there but they are allowed onto a scene. My goof, in the last episode of season 6 the man that had died because of the over abundance of drugs, was blinking all the way through the autopsie scene in which Doc Robbin was explaining his COD to Catherine. It annoyed the Hell out of me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrules Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Okay, I'll assume you know more than me, but my textbook says otherwise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quirky Koala Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 (edited) Okay, I'll assume you know more than me, but my textbook says otherwise! Which textbook is it? I'm not really sure if I will know more than you. I'm doing a course at Uni and we are always taught that the first thing we need to do is clear a 'common approach path' to any victim to preserve evidence, as when the medical examiner gets there he won't wait around. It could be different in different areas though. Edited July 21, 2006 by Quirky Koala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrules Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 It's "An Introduction to Scientific and Investigative Techniques." It's an American book, so maybe it's different in America to here, but I can't recall anything said in a lecture to contradict it. But I've only just finished my first year and we've been focusing more on the actual science that the protocols, so that could explain it. The textbook hasn't really been needed that much this year, it's more for fun and cos I knew I'd need it next year when we start to focus a lot more heavily on the Investigative techniques. I'll trust you on this one, my knowledge is most definitely not complete, or infallible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crippsy_99 Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 7) It is impossible to determine time of death to within an hour or two, as is often done in the show. Normally, the best they can give you is a 6 hour window... oftentimes this isn't even possible. Liver temp? Okay, I'll assume you know more than me, but my textbook says otherwise! Perhaps American and british forensics are different..afterall..our lot seem to be pretty useless Or is that their lot..hmm can never remember which way around it is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfy_sah Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 that's alot of issues with the show!!! personally I see goofs more as mistakes, like DBs blinking (dunno how I missed that btw!!!!) I think my liking of the show would be spoilt too much to know all the protocals n stuff! I posted in the Break Room about being a nurse and taking the pi$$/getting annoyed at Casualty and ER when they do things "wrong", but certainly don't know enough about running a resusitation (resus) compared to what you guys seem to know about CSI stuff! 7) It is impossible to determine time of death to within an hour or two, as is often done in the show. Normally, the best they can give you is a 6 hour window... oftentimes this isn't even possible. Liver temp? not that I want my viewing of the show totally over ruled by science but why doesn't this work? put simply if ya could they always talk about how many degrees the liver temp drops after death (and some eps David can't get it because of external temps)?!?! I think US and UK forensics do have differences - you only have take a look at what investigators where to see that (see the UKs Silent Witness or Waking the Dead white jumpsuits ) surfy sah xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrules Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Liver temp is unrelaible I believe for various reasons, but obviously I'm not an expert, I'm still studying. It's dependent on outside temp, temp of body at death, and a few other things. To quote directly from my textbook, "Algor mortis is the cooling of the body that occurs after death, assuming the ambient temperature is lower than body temperature. The general rule of thumb for a nearly nude body exposed to 18-20 degrees C is 1.5 degrees C of temperature drop per hour for the first 8 hours. The normal body temperature is 37 degrees C. Thus, if a doy has been dead for 6 hours, the temperature will be 28 degrees C. Unfortunately, the temperature may go up or down from 37 degrees C right before death, which can cause the estimates to be wrong." I think US and UK forensics do have differences Yeah, but though I'm working from an American written textbook right now, one I read by an eminent British entomologist said almost the exact same thing about TOD. And I'm actually studying in the UK. Protocol is almost certainly VERY different though I don't think the actual science changes all that much. I was advised the textbook I'm using by a lecturer here, and I brought it from the University bookshop, so I don't think it would have been advised or in stock if the science and issues were too different. I could still be wrong on some of these though, so I'm happy for people to correct. Just fairly sure I'm right on the TOD, for both countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crippsy_99 Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 If we kill someone, we could run our own experiment! Any volunteers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quirky Koala Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 (edited) Yeah, but though I'm working from an American written textbook right now, one I read by an eminent British entomologist said almost the exact same thing about TOD. And I'm actually studying in the UK. Protocol is almost certainly VERY different though I don't think the actual science changes all that much. I was advised the textbook I'm using by a lecturer here, and I brought it from the University bookshop, so I don't think it would have been advised or in stock if the science and issues were too different. I could still be wrong on some of these though, so I'm happy for people to correct. Just fairly sure I'm right on the TOD, for both countries. Yep, it says exactly the same in my textbook as well, and it's an English textbook. If we kill someone, we could run our own experiment! Any volunteers? Can I volunteer my little brother? Edited July 23, 2006 by Quirky Koala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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