Collectormania Party...........

[Spike's dream date]

And the music was rubbish.  I mean for goodness sake, have a selection of music.  Prior to CR the dancefloor was full of people camping out on the floor so no chance to dance anyway and afterwards there was just a load of rock.  Is it impossible to have a mixture of music to suit all tastes?!  I was appalled.

 

Actually there was a variety - the DJ played Rock, R&B, Convention Music etc. As I've said elsewhere, there was a thread on these forums asking for requests, there was also a pad and paper in front of the DJ stand where you could write requests. If you didn't like the music then perhaps you should've requested something for yourself.

 

The DJ had to keep loads of people happy and he tried, believe me, but as people have mentioned, having Common Rotation on beforehand didn't help him much as it killed half of his playlist. Towards the end the dancefloor seemed busy enough to me.

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Well when I was in the main room it was all rock (& I did request some music but didn't hear it played!) I also posted in the thread asking for music requests prior to the event so I think I did everything I could to get some music I liked played!

 

To be honest I had given up and went home before the end of the party so maybe all the good music came on after I left.

[lotrlover]

i my self thought the party was great!

alot of different types of music, lovely people to hang around with

and some yummy people too

[Smaug]

Funny how people are only saying this now? I was saying all this after the first party! Hence the reason I haven't been to one since...

 

I weighed it up like this... I have a better night out on the Thursday and the Friday nights then I did at the party. The C6 party almost reduced me to tears I was that bored. All the points raised in this thread were ones I raised about the first party and I was shot down in flames.

 

Yes, the music was rubbish, yes the venue was too dark and YES the bar was pricey/crowded/not well organised.

 

I put better parties on in my HOUSE. And it's normally a sign of a bad party if you feel the need to get drunk to enjoy yourselves.

 

A sound and lighting engineer should have been organised to sort out the party. I'm sure, with the variety of people we have on this board that SM could ask for volunteers. I was a lighting engineer for a few years in school and even took some courses. I for one would help if only to see people enjoying themselves more. Out there I'm sure we have some DJ's and/or sound engineers that could help out with the proper set up of the kit. A lot of the CM crew come from these boards and I can't see a problem with having people volunteer to help make the party run that bit more smoothly.

 

It is also better when guests turn up when they aren't announced. That way if they don't turn up you wont have people complaining that you said they were, if they did turn up then you have pleasantly suprised party goers!

 

Points to address:

 

- The DJ.

- Organisation of Live Performers.

- Sound and Lighting.

- Possible exploration of other venues. Hasn't the MK centre got conference rooms? Hiring out a club maybe? Clubs/pubs/etc are better as they already have experienced bar staff, sound and lighting, and more often than not better fascilities for live acts.

- People come to socialise at these big events. It doesn't help having the room in darkness, in a room full of people potentially sitting on a floor it posess a H&S risk.

- Adequate seating should be provided.

 

Of course this is only based on my experience of the first party. Then we thought we were saying things that would improve the parties after but according to the comments here this isn't the case.

 

Sorry to be so blunt here, but you have to be cruel to be kind. People opinions will differ of course, but it's based on what other parties you have been too, depends on what other experiences you have to compare the Showmasters Party too.

 

Smaug xx

[lotrlover]

2 b honest people there was a range of music, the hall is big enough to dance ne where! and, the fact that there were no stars (bar devon) shudnt be a problem because yes it was advertised but if they had gone they would have gone to have a party not be bombarded by fans!

 

ne hu like i have alredi sed i had a gr8 time!

lovin hayley james leanne devon becky sara leyla n anyone else i met dat nite!

xxxxxx

[Alx]

A sound and lighting engineer should have been organised to sort out the party. I'm sure, with the variety of people we have on this board that SM could ask for volunteers. I was a lighting engineer for a few years in school and even took some courses. I for one would help if only to see people enjoying themselves more. Out there I'm sure we have some DJ's and/or sound engineers that could help out with the proper set up of the kit. A lot of the CM crew come from these boards and I can't see a problem with having people volunteer to help make the party run that bit more smoothly.

 

Firstly, I would like say, that we do have a professional lighting engineer and sound engineer who rigged up the equipment this time around, he has worked for many big events companies and has worked on sell out concerts in the past.

 

Obviously not everyone can be satisfied, if lights had been left on people would have compained that it was too bright etc.. Im sure the SM will look into what has been said and will try to find ways to meet your requests. . .

 

On the other hand though, I should ask that if you are all perfect organisers, why have you not set up your own multi-national event company, and run events to which several hundred thousand guests attend, several times a year in different locations. If you could not do this, try not to critise, find a way to be constructive and give some positive ideas of how we can change to make the experience better for you.

 

Im sorry to be getting blunt, but people just keep saying the same thing over and over agian, and to be honest it is a waste of space on this forum..

 

Alex

[wiccawise21]

i have been to all three of the parties and i have enjoyed everyone of them. i agree with hat has been said on here somewhere that the party is what you make it. there was music there was a bar... the rest is up to you.

 

my only complaint is that there was way to much RnB music. yes i know it may suit the musical tastes of some people and you cant keep everyone happy but a little variety might have been nice.

 

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[chris_mk]

i have been to all three of the parties and i have enjoyed everyone of them. i agree with hat has been said on here somewhere that the party is what you make it. there was music there was a bar... the rest is up to you.

 

my only complaint is that there was way to much RnB music. yes i know it may suit the musical tastes of some people and you cant keep everyone happy but a little variety might have been nice.

 

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I'm puzzled..... there have been complaints that the DJ:

 

Played too much Rock (i.e. Green Day)

Didn't play ENOUGH rock (i.e. Green day!?!)

Played too much R'n'B

Played too many 'Con' tracks

Didn't play enough variety

 

.... does anyone see a lack of consistancy in the complaints?

 

 

 

(apologies wiccawise, didn't mean to pick on your comments in particular)

[Smaug]

Firstly, I would like say, that we do have a professional lighting engineer and sound engineer who rigged up the equipment this time around, he has worked for many big events companies and has worked on sell out concerts in the past.

 

Obviously not everyone can be satisfied, if lights had been left on people would have compained that it was too bright etc.. Im sure the SM will look into what has been said and will try to find ways to meet your requests. . .

 

I wasn't having a go at the person responsible for the sound and lighting but when people say they couldn't see or hear anything isn't that saying that maybe the balance of the sound wasn't right, or the lighting could have been set up in a different way? What happened to sound checks and lighting checks?

 

The house lights should have been left up until the Live Performance, then the stage lights brought up. The house lights are then dimmed completely and the ones at the back (nearest the bar - forgive me if the layout has since changed since the first party...) Kept up a resonable amount. After the Live performance had finished then the house lights are brought up for people to orientate themselves. After a short while the stage lights should be killed and the effect lights (multi coloured "disco" lights) are then started up. BUT a well lit area should be still available for people not wishing to find themselves lost in the darkness.

 

On the other hand though, I should ask that if you are all perfect organisers, why have you not set up your own multi-national event company, and run events to which several hundred thousand guests attend, several times a year in different locations. If you could not do this, try not to critise, find a way to be constructive and give some positive ideas of how we can change to make the experience better for you.

 

Also, having organised events and parties myself, also sorting out lighting for theatre productions and working on production for some of them then I feel that though only a small contribution my 2 cents worth is something to listen to.

 

Besides, it's not about the people organising the events it's all about the punters because without them, you wouldn't have an event in the first place. Please have respect for the people posting comments here because a wrongly worded retort wont have the most positive effect on some one. If some one makes a point address it and then explain why it can't be done, explain how the way you originally did it was in fact better than what they suggested.

 

Im sorry to be getting blunt, but people just keep saying the same thing over and over agian, and to be honest it is a waste of space on this forum..

 

Alex

 

Well the fact that people are saying the same things over and over again should be raising a little red flag for you...

[Poppy]

The collectormania the party thread clearly states that certain guests would be attending! If we have got this wrong (and half the people at the party clearly were under the same impression) then showmasters need to be more clear about what they advertise.

 

The thing is if Showmasters advertised it just as a party - gathering for fans and not mention that guests may or will appear then thats fine.........but they make it out to be something bigger and better than a usual party.

 

This happened a couple of years ago with billy Boyd - he was asked during the day what time he was appearing at the party as his name was on the guest list - and he had never even heard of a party!

 

I personally enjoyed the party - I like common rotation and had a laugh with my mates.

 

And Jacs, hon, Devon does turn up to the opening of a crisp packet! That doesn't mean we don't wanna meet him again though!

[chris_mk]

(nearest the bar - forgive me if the layout has since changed since the first party...)

 

Does that mean you weren't there then? With respect, to me, that doesn't place you in a good position to comment.

 

 

BUT a well lit area should be still available for people not wishing to find themselves lost in the darkness.

 

 

You mean like the downstairs bar........................

[Alx]

Also, having organised events and parties myself, also sorting out lighting for theatre productions and working on production for some of them then I feel that though only a small contribution my 2 cents worth is something to listen to.

 

I was not meaning to have ago at you either, I do apologise. I am not one of the organisers, but I do know them and I sympathise with them. I apologise for striking out. Sound and lighting checks were carried out, and they over ran, which is why you may have noticed everyone was crammed in the downstairs bar at the start of the night.

 

The comments are contradictary as we have seen earlier, though some do follow the same lines, the ones that keep comming up will be addressed I am sure, but only as far as we can. I.e venue change may not be an option, though it is something to look into.

 

Alex

[dingbat]

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On the other hand though, I should ask that if you are all perfect organisers, why have you not set up your own multi-national event company, and run events to which several hundred thousand guests attend, several times a year in different locations. If you could not do this, try not to critise, find a way to be constructive and give some positive ideas of how we can change to make the experience better for you.

 

Im sorry to be getting blunt, but people just keep saying the same thing over and over agian, and to be honest it is a waste of space on this forum..

 

Alex

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Hi

 

Only just registered but have been lurking about . This was my third Collectormania and my second party .

 

I personally had a great time , the DJ played a good selection of music and Common Rotation were excellent.

 

However it's silly not to admit that there are problems with that venue , it's long and low and narrow , the stage isn't high enough ( presumably it can't be raised because of the low ceiling) It was a terrible venue for the first Collectormania party I attended , it was a terrible venue for C7's Watchers and James Marsters talks and it was a terrible venue on Saturday . It's an awful room for live music of any kind . To be fair it's also been a terrible venue for other conferences I've attended there for work reasons .

 

The best sound and lighting guys in the world couldn't do a lot with that room.

 

 

You don't have to be able to organise multinational events to be able to pass a comment on a venue. And, let's be fair, every time you use that venue you get complaints .

 

Yes it's central, I presume it's fairly inexpensive but if it's not suitable to your purpose then a new venue is needed.

 

 

Also the catering department of the convention centre really need to not hire inexperienced bar staff and throw them straight into a busy shift at a party . Not your problem in some ways but you're paying for a service and not getting it .

 

 

Part of my job is organising conferences and I can't begin to imagine how complicated organising something like Collectormania is . I take my hat off to your team for a generally excellent event.

 

However the party itself seems like a fairly straightforward set up and, as such I feel justified , as a paying customer, in passing comment.

 

All I can say is that after every conference I run I read through the feedback and evaluation forms ( and we do ask specific questions about the venue itself) . If customers tell me that the venue sucks then I try to resolve the issues or, if ( as in this case) they aren't resolvable . I look for another venue . If that venue is more expensive then we raise our fees accordingly . I'm sure most people would pay an extra fiver for good sightlines and acoustics.

 

I agree that it gets wearisome reading the same comments over and over again and I understand the temptation to get rather defensive . But if that was your customers experience then you really need to consider taking it on board.

 

 

Thanks for your time and congratulations on all the many things that * did* go right over the weekend.

Edited October 4, 2005 by dingbat

[ciaraemarie]

Why don't everyone either get drunk beforehand or bring their own drink?

Or was bringing your own drink not allowed or something....

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Bringing your own drink onto licenced premises is a major no-no; likely to get you heaved out, because it can get the licensees into trouble; they're licensed to sell drinks for consumption on the premises, not let people turn up and consume their own stuff. The conduct and behaviour of people in their establishment can come back on them; they're supposed to keep an eye on their clientele and not serve them if they are (too) drunk, and intervene if people start looking lairy - smuggling your own booze in makes it tricky to keep an eye on people if they're not coming up to the bar occasionally to get drinks. It may also sidestep any procedures they have (or have had to employ) about letting glass containers into certain areas if they are only supposed to use plastic. Finally, and debates about particular prices here aside, it is rather rude. If everybody took their own drink in they wouldn't make any money on the bar and so probably wouldn't want to host the party again.

As for having a few drinks before you go out to reduce your expensive consumption when you're out, not a bad idea but a) don't get so drunk at the start that you won't get let in anywhere, and be careful you don't end up drinking just as much as usual once you have gone out and therefore end up way drunker (and more vulnerable) than intended.

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I'd rather they feel bad about not making enough money,not following glass procedures etc etc than me feel bad about losing all of mine to ridiculous drink prices....

 

KIWI

[chris_mk]

The collectormania the party thread clearly states that certain guests would be attending!  If we have got this wrong (and half the people at the party clearly were under the same impression) then showmasters need to be more clear about what they advertise.

 

 

Live music from Common Rotation, plus DJs. Celebrity cars and street entertainment, plus many of the show's celebrity guests will attend, including Adam Busch, Andy Hallett and more.

 

All guests at the party subject to commitments

 

The key sentence is the 'All guests at the party subject to commitments'... if the guest doesn't want to come, then they probably aren't contracted to... and they won't. I doubt ANY of the guests (bar Common Rotation) are, or ever will be, contracted to appear.

[Smaug]

(nearest the bar - forgive me if the layout has since changed since the first party...)

 

Does that mean you weren't there then? With respect, to me, that doesn't place you in a good position to comment.

 

 

BUT a well lit area should be still available for people not wishing to find themselves lost in the darkness.

 

 

You mean like the downstairs bar........................

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I did say in my original post that I hadn't been to this party I had been to the first one and I was merely reitterating points made about this party that were the same as points I had previously made about the first party.

 

Thank you.

 

And at the first party the downstairs bar was for VIP ticket holders only. Apologies if this was not the case here.

[chris_mk]

Hi

 

Only just registered but have been lurking about . This was my third Collectormania and my second party .

 

I personally had a great time , the DJ played a good selection of music and Common Rotation were excellent.

 

However  it's silly  not to admit that there are problems  with that venue , it's long and low and narrow , the stage isn't high enough ( presumably it can't be  raised  because of the low ceiling) It was a terrible venue for the first  Collectormania party I attended , it was a terrible venue for  C7's Watchers and James Marsters talks  and it was a terrible venue on Saturday . It's an awful room for live music  of any kind . To be fair it's also been a terrible venue for other conferences I've attended there for work reasons .

 

The best sound and lighting guys in the world couldn't do a lot with that room.

 

 

You don't have to be able to organise multinational events to be able to pass a comment on a venue. And, let's be fair, every time you use that venue you get complaints .

 

Yes it's central, I presume it's fairly inexpensive but if it's not  suitable to your purpose  then  a new venue is needed.

 

 

Also the  catering department of the convention centre really need to not hire  inexperienced bar staff and throw them straight into a busy shift at a party . Not your problem  in some ways but you're paying for a service and not getting it .

 

 

Part of my job is organising conferences and I  can't begin to imagine how complicated  organising something like Collectormania is . I take my hat off to your team for a generally excellent event.

 

However the party itself seems like a fairly straightforward  set up  and, as such I feel justified , as a paying customer, in passing comment.

 

All I can say is that after every conference I run I read through the feedback and evaluation forms ( and we do ask specific questions about the venue itself) . If customers tell me that the venue sucks then  I try to resolve the issues or, if ( as in this case) they aren't resolvable . I look for another venue . If that venue is more expensive then we raise our fees accordingly . I'm sure most people would pay an extra fiver for good sightlines and acoustics.

 

I agree that it gets wearisome reading the same comments over and over again  and I understand the temptation to  get rather defensive . But if that was your customers experience then you really need to consider taking it on board.

 

 

Thanks for your time and congratulations on all the many things that * did* go right over the weekend.

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Welcome, nicely thought out post!

 

I have a sneaking suspicion that SM have looked for/at other venues... but there really ISN'T much centrally that could be used.

[Poppy]

The collectormania the party thread clearly states that certain guests would be attending!  If we have got this wrong (and half the people at the party clearly were under the same impression) then showmasters need to be more clear about what they advertise.

 

 

Live music from Common Rotation, plus DJs. Celebrity cars and street entertainment, plus many of the show's celebrity guests will attend, including Adam Busch, Andy Hallett and more.

 

All guests at the party subject to commitments

 

The key sentence is the 'All guests at the party subject to commitments'... if the guest doesn't want to come, then they probably aren't contracted to... and they won't. I doubt ANY of the guests (bar Common Rotation) are, or ever will be, contracted to appear.

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I think the most important phrase is 'Will attend'

 

Why not just advertise it as a party - invite the guests but don't advertise them and then if they attend cool - if they don;t then we will not have all this 'will attend, or whatever' thing going on.

 

Its a simple solution I think. If they don;t make promises then they can't be broken.

[chris_mk]

The collectormania the party thread clearly states that certain guests would be attending!  If we have got this wrong (and half the people at the party clearly were under the same impression) then showmasters need to be more clear about what they advertise.

 

 

Live music from Common Rotation, plus DJs. Celebrity cars and street entertainment, plus many of the show's celebrity guests will attend, including Adam Busch, Andy Hallett and more.

 

All guests at the party subject to commitments

 

The key sentence is the 'All guests at the party subject to commitments'... if the guest doesn't want to come, then they probably aren't contracted to... and they won't. I doubt ANY of the guests (bar Common Rotation) are, or ever will be, contracted to appear.

876716[/snapback]

 

I think the most important phrase is 'Will attend'

 

Why not just advertise it as a party - invite the guests but don't advertise them and then if they attend cool - if they don;t then we will not have all this 'will attend, or whatever' thing going on.

 

Its a simple solution I think. If they don;t make promises then they can't be broken.

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If they didn't mention teh guests, people would STILL find something to complain about... perhaps 'if I'd known, I'd have brought me camera!' or something.

 

To me, anyone who uses this forum, has NO cause for complaints about the guests attendance or lack there of. SM stated that there was a clause that might mean the guests won't attend and you only have to go and look at comments from previous parties, to see that the guests may well NOT attend.

[Poppy]

The collectormania the party thread clearly states that certain guests would be attending!  If we have got this wrong (and half the people at the party clearly were under the same impression) then showmasters need to be more clear about what they advertise.

 

 

Live music from Common Rotation, plus DJs. Celebrity cars and street entertainment, plus many of the show's celebrity guests will attend, including Adam Busch, Andy Hallett and more.

 

All guests at the party subject to commitments

 

The key sentence is the 'All guests at the party subject to commitments'... if the guest doesn't want to come, then they probably aren't contracted to... and they won't. I doubt ANY of the guests (bar Common Rotation) are, or ever will be, contracted to appear.

876716[/snapback]

 

I think the most important phrase is 'Will attend'

 

Why not just advertise it as a party - invite the guests but don't advertise them and then if they attend cool - if they don;t then we will not have all this 'will attend, or whatever' thing going on.

 

Its a simple solution I think. If they don;t make promises then they can't be broken.

876727[/snapback]

 

If they didn't mention teh guests, people would STILL find something to complain about... perhaps 'if I'd known, I'd have brought me camera!' or something.

 

To me, anyone who uses this forum, has NO cause for complaints about the guests attendance or lack there of. SM stated that there was a clause that might mean the guests won't attend and you only have to go and look at comments from previous parties, to see that the guests may well NOT attend.

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as I said I personally enjoyed the party even though my friends and I were slightly disappointed andy hallett did not arrive.

 

Surely you can see both sides of the argument? People have a right to complain without being shouted down. The guide to the party should be the advertisement to the party - not having to trawl through millions of old threads!

[ElrilGalia]

Aha! Yet again ppl complaining about the COLLECTORMANIA PARTY! De Ja vue!

 

I went to the first one they had, NEVER AGAIN! A hell of a lot of People then complined about guests not turning up, the bar and its s*** staff and s*** prices, the venue, the lighting, the DJ, the lack of "party", fast forward a year later and still people are complaining of the EXACT SAME THINGS! So with all due respect Alex, people gave you pointers and ideas and what they wanted for the next party, obviously they were ignored then! These people are the ones you are doing this party for yes? Therfore they are telling you what they want for a reason, why not act on it?

 

The argument about the guests, c'mon they are put there as a carrot to tempt you to go! The 1st party was the same it was worded the same way and I quote this times:

 

AND MANY CELEBRITY GUESTS TURNING UP TO JOIN IN THE FUN!

Many of the guests from Collectormania 8 plan on turning up to join in the party, including Nick Brendon, Erin Gray, Wayne Pygram, Andy Hallett, Robert Englund, and many more!

 

EVENING ENTERTAINMENT INCLUDES:

DJs, INFLATABLES AND STREET ENTERTAINMENT, AND GUESTS FROM COLLECTORMANIA 8 TURNING UP THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT TO JOIN IN THE PARTY

 

so there is no "might be" or "could" or "guest willing" it says PLAN ON TURNING UP! and "guests turing up throughout the night" Why are these 5 celebs mentioned? Were they the ones who were specifically asked and agreed? If so why didnt they turn up?

 

I agree that NO CELEBS should be mentioned then NOBODY is holding anyone to anything and nobody gets dissappointed, easy peasy!

 

Again the venue is scruffy and a horrible place to have a party!

 

Oh yeah and 15 quid is FAAAR too much for a party ticket that has nothing but a crappy room and crappy bar. To be honest a tenner is too much! I was toying with going to this years party when I saw Robert Englund was to attend the party, How glad I am that I decided dead against it and that the first party had left that much of a bitter taste. I am not "having a go" I did that a year ago lol, but Im trying to just give advice as to why its gone balls up again, becasue like I said everything that ppl are moaning about is EXACTLY the same as a year ago. That says it all.

[chris_mk]

Aha! Yet again ppl complaining about the COLLECTORMANIA PARTY! De Ja vue!

 

I went to the first one they had, NEVER AGAIN! A hell of a lot of People then complined about guests not turning up, the bar and its s*** staff and s*** prices, the venue, the lighting, the DJ, the lack of "party", fast forward a year later and still people are complaining of the EXACT SAME THINGS! So with all due respect Alex, people gave you pointers and ideas and what they wanted for the next party, obviously they were ignored then! These people are the ones you are doing this party for yes? Therfore they are telling you what they want for a reason, why not act on it?

 

The argument about the guests, c'mon they are put there as a carrot to tempt you to go! The 1st party was the same it was worded the same way and I quote this times:

 

AND MANY CELEBRITY GUESTS TURNING UP TO JOIN IN THE FUN!

Many of the guests from Collectormania 8 plan on turning up to join in the party, including Nick Brendon, Erin Gray, Wayne Pygram, Andy Hallett, Robert Englund, and many more!

 

EVENING ENTERTAINMENT INCLUDES:

DJs, INFLATABLES AND STREET ENTERTAINMENT, AND GUESTS FROM COLLECTORMANIA 8 TURNING UP THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT TO JOIN IN THE PARTY

 

so there is no "might be" or "could" or "guest willing" it says PLAN ON TURNING UP! and "guests turing up throughout the night" Why are these 5 celebs mentioned? Were they the ones who were specifically asked and agreed? If so why didnt they turn up?

 

I agree that NO CELEBS should be mentioned then NOBODY is holding anyone to anything and nobody gets dissappointed, easy peasy!

 

Again the venue is scruffy and a horrible place to have a party!

 

Oh yeah and 15 quid is FAAAR too much for a party ticket that has nothing but a crappy room and crappy bar. To be honest a tenner is too much! I was toying with going to this years party when I saw Robert Englund was to attend the party, How glad I am that I decided dead against it and that the first party had left that much of a bitter taste. I am not "having a go" I did that a year ago lol, but Im trying to just give advice as to why its gone balls up again, becasue like I said everything that ppl are moaning about is EXACTLY the same as a year ago. That says it all.

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Well done, you managed to ignore the part which said (and I AM quoting)

All guests at the party subject to commitments

 

This MEANS '"might be" or "could" or "guest willing"', so quit whinging.

 

as for the wording.. well I 'PLANNED' on getting up and going to C8 early Sunday morning... guess what... I didn't! The word plan, is NOT definite, despite your suspicion that it is.

 

Now, to put things in PROPER perspective, you fail to mention the C7 party.... where guests DID turn up... in droves.. AND mingled.... so could it JUST BE POSSIBLE that it's down to the individual guest to decide and therefore be pot luck?

 

Now, as you state you DIDN'T go, you weren't a customer, which in my book, negates YOUR right to whinge and b1tch.

[ElrilGalia]

"Now, as you state you DIDN'T go, you weren't a customer, which in my book, negates YOUR right to whinge and b1tch."

 

 

Chris you are one rude p****! I HAVE BEEN a customer of Showmaster events over the years hundreds of pounds and I wasnt winging, OH and BTW, if it is "subject to contarcts" why not state that on the advertsiement? Duhhh hardly rocket science huh? Now go and be rude to someone who will take it son!

[TommyT]

I'd rather they feel bad about not making enough money,not following glass procedures etc etc than me feel bad about losing all of mine to ridiculous drink prices....

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The thing is, they're probably more likely to feel bad about having problems with their licence (and therefore their livelihood) than anything else.

Doesn't matter about the profit margin - just try strolling into any pub, asking for a glass of say coke with ice and then producing your own vodka to pour into it.

 

To be honest, in this case, the demand should have been "please show me the price list that you are required by law to have on display, and explain why the same round has come to 3 different prices. And please put that in writing so that I can drop it into the Trading Standards Authority on Monday morning." Drop those sort of words to the person in charge of the bar staff and you've got a pretty good chance of having no trouble with people charging non-standard prices. If you've got a half decent mobile phone, just ask them to speak up so you can record all of their explanation for use in your submission.

I appreciate good bar staff, and think that crap ones who can't be a*sed desrve a damn good mau-mau-ing

[chris_mk]

"Now, as you state you DIDN'T go, you weren't a customer, which in my book, negates YOUR right to whinge and b1tch."

 

 

Chris you are one rude p****! I HAVE BEEN a customer of Showmaster events over the years hundreds of pounds and I wasnt winging, OH and BTW, if it is "subject to contarcts" why not state that on the advertsiement? Duhhh hardly rocket science huh? Now go and be rude to someone who will take it son!

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I used to shop at Waitrose, now I don't.. I'm not a customer of theirs.

You weren't at the party, nor C8... hence you weren't a customer.

 

Oh yeah and 15 quid is FAAAR too much for a party ticket that has nothing but a crappy room and crappy bar

 

The above quote IS whinging.

 

I never mentioned contracts, I said (actually quoted SM)

All guests at the party subject to commitments

Being invited out to dinner is a commitment, agreeing to watch wrestling on TB is a commitment, agreeing to have a quiet night in to pacify a partner is a commitment. These commitments can be made at short notice and may well take priority over going to a party.

 

... and I'm older than you.... girl.

[chris_mk]

I'd rather they feel bad about not making enough money,not following glass procedures etc etc than me feel bad about losing all of mine to ridiculous drink prices....

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The thing is, they're probably more likely to feel bad about having problems with their licence (and therefore their livelihood) than anything else.

Doesn't matter about the profit margin - just try strolling into any pub, asking for a glass of say coke with ice and then producing your own vodka to pour into it.

 

To be honest, in this case, the demand should have been "please show me the price list that you are required by law to have on display, and explain why the same round has come to 3 different prices. And please put that in writing so that I can drop it into the Trading Standards Authority on Monday morning." Drop those sort of words to the person in charge of the bar staff and you've got a pretty good chance of having no trouble with people charging non-standard prices. If you've got a half decent mobile phone, just ask them to speak up so you can record all of their explanation for use in your submission.

I appreciate good bar staff, and think that crap ones who can't be a*sed desrve a damn good mau-mau-ing

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Sound advice!