ElrilGalia

"Now, as you state you DIDN'T go, you weren't a customer, which in my book, negates YOUR right to whinge and b1tch." Chris you are one rude p****! I HAVE BEEN a customer of Showmaster events over the years hundreds of pounds and I wasnt winging, OH and BTW, if it is "subject to contarcts" why not state that on the advertsiement? Duhhh hardly rocket science huh? Now go and be rude to someone who will take it son!

Aha! Yet again ppl complaining about the COLLECTORMANIA PARTY! De Ja vue! I went to the first one they had, NEVER AGAIN! A hell of a lot of People then complined about guests not turning up, the bar and its s*** staff and s*** prices, the venue, the lighting, the DJ, the lack of "party", fast forward a year later and still people are complaining of the EXACT SAME THINGS! So with all due respect Alex, people gave you pointers and ideas and what they wanted for the next party, obviously they were ignored then! These people are the ones you are doing this party for yes? Therfore they are telling you what they want for a reason, why not act on it? The argument about the guests, c'mon they are put there as a carrot to tempt you to go! The 1st party was the same it was worded the same way and I quote this times: AND MANY CELEBRITY GUESTS TURNING UP TO JOIN IN THE FUN! Many of the guests from Collectormania 8 plan on turning up to join in the party, including Nick Brendon, Erin Gray, Wayne Pygram, Andy Hallett, Robert Englund, and many more! EVENING ENTERTAINMENT INCLUDES: DJs, INFLATABLES AND STREET ENTERTAINMENT, AND GUESTS FROM COLLECTORMANIA 8 TURNING UP THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT TO JOIN IN THE PARTY so there is no "might be" or "could" or "guest willing" it says PLAN ON TURNING UP! and "guests turing up throughout the night" Why are these 5 celebs mentioned? Were they the ones who were specifically asked and agreed? If so why didnt they turn up? I agree that NO CELEBS should be mentioned then NOBODY is holding anyone to anything and nobody gets dissappointed, easy peasy! Again the venue is scruffy and a horrible place to have a party! Oh yeah and 15 quid is FAAAR too much for a party ticket that has nothing but a crappy room and crappy bar. To be honest a tenner is too much! I was toying with going to this years party when I saw Robert Englund was to attend the party, How glad I am that I decided dead against it and that the first party had left that much of a bitter taste. I am not "having a go" I did that a year ago lol, but Im trying to just give advice as to why its gone balls up again, becasue like I said everything that ppl are moaning about is EXACTLY the same as a year ago. That says it all.

I adore Robert, he is a sweetheart and such a salt of the earth genuine bloke! Shame all celebs cant learn from him! Was his wife Nancy there with him?

I agree Mattzo, I know he only signed today so maybe its early days for peoples experiences yet, but yep, he has been in some fab things! So peed that I couldnt make today!

BUMP! C'mon! sum1 musta met him?

I couldnt make C8, Did anyone meet the hunky Corey Johnson from Dr Who, Hellboy, The mummy? If so what was he like? Any photos? Thanks all! Also meant to mention did any go to the DR WHO talk tonight? And what kind of questions were asked to Corey. Thanking you! *mwah* xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Elijah Wood - defo!!

What am I on about? You qouted me so obviously I assumed you were talking about me. I did say "if you arent talking to me, sorry". If anyone needs to use their brains, its certainly not me! I will blame whom ever organised the party, whether it was SM or Stuart or Elvis cos, in my eyes, it was a complete and utter joke. This thread id for peoples opinions of the party. Isnt that what we are all giving? SM certainly put the CON in CONvention!

Actually, Showmasters didn't organise the party. They also publically apologised for the bad parts, i.e. the bar, crew party, missing cars etc. But, it was some other guy organising it, and he screwed up. Mark said next year someone from Showmasters will do it properly, with boxes for the cars to drive through and a bar that can handle us all - unfortunately even Showmasters have to learn from their mistakes. I actually had an amazing time, so I'm not complaining . Just... yeah. Go easy on the whole critcising Showmasters thing: you can tell from CM that they do a damn good job organising stuff given the chance. The person you should rant at is Stuart, the organiser. Who took the money at the end of the day? SM? Stuart? BOTH? Why did SM leave the organising of a huge party to ONE person? SM do great day events, why couldnt thet do the party too? Where have they publicly apologised? The apology should be on their hompage for everyone to see. Apologies dont cut the mustard when people have spent so much money for 1 night (tickets, drinks, transport, accommodation (for some people), costumes etc). A sorry really isnt good enough to me. Did they get this Stuart off the street? Cos it looks like hes never organised a party in his life! Maybe they should throw a FREE decent party next time to make up for all the headache most people have gone through. P.S Did this Stuart have a dark suit on and glasses? Cos if he did, he pushed infront of me in the queue at the bar even though he knew Id been there before him and I wanted to kill him. If that is him, I want to kill him even more lol Shut the f*** up about stuart, none of you know much your just slagging it off till u get an apoligie or reponse of off Showmasters, keep names out of it. It's Showmasters, not Jason, not Mark or Stuart or anyone else, it's Showmasters, if you want to complain email them. the forum is for friendly chat, with no personal attacks. If you are unhappy email them because they won't have time to reply to you on here. Are you talking to me?? I have been blaming SM all along until Costa Coffee told me to blame Stuart!!!! I still hold SM responsible. If you arent talking to me, sorry. If you are then you shut the f**k up and get your effing fact straight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was bliming SM as a whole. No names were mentioned until they told me to blame Stuart!!!!!!!!!!! So, if you want to blame anyone, blame Costa Coffee!!!!!

Actually, Showmasters didn't organise the party. They also publically apologised for the bad parts, i.e. the bar, crew party, missing cars etc. But, it was some other guy organising it, and he screwed up. Mark said next year someone from Showmasters will do it properly, with boxes for the cars to drive through and a bar that can handle us all - unfortunately even Showmasters have to learn from their mistakes. I actually had an amazing time, so I'm not complaining . Just... yeah. Go easy on the whole critcising Showmasters thing: you can tell from CM that they do a damn good job organising stuff given the chance. The person you should rant at is Stuart, the organiser. Who took the money at the end of the day? SM? Stuart? BOTH? Why did SM leave the organising of a huge party to ONE person? SM do great day events, why couldnt thet do the party too? Where have they publicly apologised? The apology should be on their hompage for everyone to see. Apologies dont cut the mustard when people have spent so much money for 1 night (tickets, drinks, transport, accommodation (for some people), costumes etc). A sorry really isnt good enough to me. Did they get this Stuart off the street? Cos it looks like hes never organised a party in his life! Maybe they should throw a FREE decent party next time to make up for all the headache most people have gone through. P.S Did this Stuart have a dark suit on and glasses? Cos if he did, he pushed infront of me in the queue at the bar even though he knew Id been there before him and I wanted to kill him. If that is him, I want to kill him even more lol

Okay, ive not read this whole thread but come on! Billy *so* would have been mobbed. you saw the Hp guests being asked for autos right? I saw Matthew signing in the VIP bar. Which really got me angry. As far as Billy's other appearnces with fans, the dinner was rather more limited than *this* party, the cost for it being...what was it? £70? £80? for admission, which also makes it unlikely for anyone to want to screw it up by disregarding the rules. And I don't know how the TORN parties work... But I'm assuming they're rather limited too... I agree there are many there who would have loved just a chat, or just to know he was there. But unfortunatly theres a minority who have NO REGARD to the rules, and the bigger the party... the bigger that minority becomes, and so a bigger problem. Also with a guest as big as Billy, the chances of that minority becoming a problem increases. Well I class Billy having to sign autographs for 600 in one day being mobbed. I didnt see HP guests get asked for autos, just pics but I heard they were hitting on girls most the night anyway.

Ummm obviously you didn't see the sheer amount of people who were just standing around staring at him and basically trying to get any space available to get just a look at him or a picture of him when he was signing....this can be quite intimidating for 1 person and probably the reason why some people would think he would get mobbed considering the amount of obssesive hobbit fans there were around him. Billy couldn't be groped or mobbed during the day because you couldn't get to him unless you were getting something signed. i do agree though that if his name was on there being advertised that he was going then he should have gone if he knew about it. unfortunatly a lot of people out there are Massive hobbit fans (why i don't know lol) and since he was one of the 4 main hobbits in the films he will be treated in such a way by them it would make anyone think he was huge star. Yes he wasn't treated as bad as Elijah and thank god for that...that was horrendous and completely uncalled for and he really did have the S**T scared out of him...he loves the fans but the way he was treated by the obssesive ones was disgusting, it was like Pirahnas to freshly cut meat. trust me he does have these stalkers and so so the rest of the guys who played the main hobbits and i would have loved to have seen what would have happned if he had attended the party... considering the amount of underaged and very drunk kids that were there who i wouldn't be suprised are some of the ones constantly going on about him not being there. you know even Nick brendon (who incidentaly had 3 bodygurads around him at all times when on a break) was stalked by screaming fans who kept trying to take pics of him and there is also a picture on the photo thread of Tom lenk just shopping for shoes, this is also stalking cos you woudn't do that to a normal person would you. People standing there, looking or taking pictures doesnt automatically make them obsessives and stalkers. Not everyone can queue for hours so whats the harm with just having a look or taking a few photos? Id be more intimidated with a queue of 40, 50 people waiting to see me than a crowd of people watching. But thats just me. Ive seen a few pics of Billy from C6 where people are leaning across to give him a hug, he could have easily been groped then. Anyone could have pulled a gun, knife out, not let him go, burst into tears, shout insults at him. Its easy to do. In my eyes, people are only as famous as you want them to be or think they are. "Stars" are just people and I know some hate it when you treat them like they arent ordinary people. I dont know who Nick Brendon is :/ but, of course, taking pics of him shopping for shoes isnt something you would do to a normal person but neither is queue for hours wanting their autograph either. I dont agree with obsessive fans and stalkers but saying "he is a normal person etc" then "big stars dont want to go to pokey holes" is a bit contradictive. Just my opinion but I do respect yours and agree some people can be frightening but in my eyes that can be controlled.

Can I just say that I agree with everything you have said APART from the guests (i.e Billy Boyd). As far as people were concerned he was advertised so everyone assumed he had accepted to come. Why do people automatically assume that he would get mobbed? Yes, he has fans but not the kind of people who would stalk him all night. There are the people who would just have been satisfied that he went, those who wouldve just like to say Hi and those who would have liked a chat. Didnt he know to draw the limit there? Should he have? No, because he quite happily went and enjoyed it. He also has attended The One Ring parties which is organised and attended by fans. He happily mingled there without any bodyguards. WE didnt want to be in a pokey hole, never mind Billy. Billy couldve got mobbed, groped and stalked just as easily during the day but he didnt. He could have had a bodyguard close by him on the night too. There were plenty of security there. I couldnt get to see Billy during the days so it would have been nice to see him, not talk to him, on the night. IF Billy didnt know about the party (which someone has said) then that is disgusting and possibly a legal issue for Billy there, using his name to sell tickets. If he did know, he agreed to go, he agreed for his name to be used, he knew what it would entail etc. I dont see why people think Billy is this HUUUUGE star? Yes, he has a big following but he didnt get what Elijah got when he came. Billy is down to earth, friendly and doesnt have these stalkers you mention from what I can gather (or maybe they just didnt come to C6 lol) Anyway, Ive said all im going to say on this issue now. People have different opinions about the guests attending. Im getting ready for some action.

So Billy DEFINATELY DIDNT know about the party?? Did you have a kind of conversation that lead you to believe that he didnt know? If so what was it/what was said, if you dont mind me asking , Sorry to ask but I really would like to know for certain reasons. Thanks for you help!!

The bar was terrible!!! Short changed people. Ran out of drinks waaaaay too early. Took them 3 attempts to pour a lager and lime correctly. We tried to look for positives and tried to get into it but we found it awful. Im glad some people did enjoy it but you could meet people off the forum for free in a pub, you dont have to pay money for the privilege. What I dont understand is, how SM can organise a 3 day event and do it right and not be able to organise a party for a few hours.