rich5wolves Posted October 18, 2007 Author Share Posted October 18, 2007 Dufresne is right on the money. Do this, and our star guest at every event will be Jeremy Bulloch. And I mean no disrepect to him when I say, that would be a load of Bullochs. Kinda OT, but relevant in terms of the "load of Bullochs" quip, is Jeremy's son Robbie still acting? ETA: Apparently Robbie's retired from acting and now works at the Foreign Office...but who knows? Some fair comments guys, although some of you actually agreed with some of it without realising it. Just wanted to put it out there to see what people think. The only one person to make a personal comment was Dufus, unsuprising that but hey. Indio - see where you are coming from a bit now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bloke Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 What a load of tosh, actors are actors, I bet it would be real good if they turned down a part that may run for years, just to sign some moron's autograph. get real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Evil Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 (edited) What a load of tosh, actors are actors, I bet it would be real good if they turned down a part that may run for years, just to sign some moron's autograph. get real who are you actually calling moron....the original poster of this thread or anyone who gets autographs? Edited October 18, 2007 by Dr Evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showmasters Admin showmasters Posted October 18, 2007 Showmasters Admin Share Posted October 18, 2007 We get this every time and the same names say it every time If you want i can solve this in one go. We can just go for guests that are not working any more. Then we will all have a better life than having to keep going on about guests having to pull out rich 5 just remember that Mr Lee pulled out of that show because he fell in the bath, and I could not come on here and say it at the time as his agent told me not to. What am I to say when I have been asked to say something other than "he fell in the bath" In the end some do-gooder that was trying to catch us out managed to get another guest to ring Mr. Lee to see if he had ever been coming to the show in the first place, and it was Mr Lee that told that guest that he fell in the bath. It was that person that told everyone on here "Its all crazy, guests drop out if they get work" We get them as and when we can and you going on about it makes me not want to keep trying to risk getting guests that may drop out because they are busy or hot right now Fans in the US complain to us that the shows over there do not get the big names we get here. We get emails like that every day People go on about us getting Burt Reynolds back. Well he has never been to a show like this in the US ever. We get most of the big names first in the world, we work 24/7 if we have to and do a better job at getting 1st timers than any other show in the world and we love doing it, but what really makes me wonder why I do all this is these threads that come up just before each show It seems to come up to try to put people off attending the show or to worry new fans and then we get 200 or 300 emails asking "do we really have this guest" So how about stopping before you put something up like this again? It will not change the odds of someone dropping out or being there on the day. It's all down to the gods Or we can just go for guests that do nothing now And on the Burt Reynolds thing I have one thing to say. I talked to Burt and he said that every actor should all do an event like this once in their life and he had a great time But he was not a spring chicken any more. He liked to stand up and shake everyones hand like a gentleman but it was very hard on him to do that When I asked him to come back another year he told me that he felt it was the job of a younger man but said that he did enjoy himself and thanks for asking him. So there you go Rant over Jason ps if I take a guest to court over a contract because they pulled out due to work, then I may as well get out of running events as no one will work with me "THINK ABOUT IT" it not hard to work out. Thank God most guests are fair and nice people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosfer2 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Just wanted to say a big thank you to you. Unlike organsiers of some events I could mention, you are willing to work with us and put on fantastic events, even putting up with a lot of grief that would make other people jack it in. I've enjoyed meeting many people I never thought I'd get the chance to meet thanks to you and hope that you will continue running events for many years to come! Thanks again from a satisfied customer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanstill Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Just wanted to say a big thank you to you. Unlike organsiers of some events I could mention, you are willing to work with us and put on fantastic events, even putting up with a lot of grief that would make other people jack it in. I've enjoyed meeting many people I never thought I'd get the chance to meet thanks to you and hope that you will continue running events for many years to come! Thanks again from a satisfied customer. Here here! I have attended a few of the shows and am constantly surprised by the quality of guests attending and the variety. Also the likes of Brandon Routh have cancelled in the past but he came back and there is every chance if the guests put their name down once they will do it again. I agree the organisers have a tough job attracting the guests and do a great job of it. I'm gutted Tobe Hooper is not going to come this time but its not the end of the world. Meeting the guests is just part of what is a great occasion that i look forward to. Keep on keeping on showmasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeDonovan Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 (edited) Just my 2p Jason, but I would say that I think the vast majority of people who come to these events feel that you (and the rest of SM) do a fantastic job. I think any rational person is well aware of the fact that, frankly, sheeet happens. I don't give a monkeys what anyone else thinks, but I'd like to thank you for giving me the chance to meet quite a few childhood heroes of mine - something that no doubt is going to continue in the future. Thanks. Edited October 18, 2007 by MikeDonovan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychosis Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Unless you run out of childhood heroes first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeDonovan Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Unless you run out of childhood heroes first... Not going to happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychosis Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 haha. On my part, I've met Robert Patrick and Robert Englund. My life is complete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted October 18, 2007 Moderators Share Posted October 18, 2007 haha. On my part, I've met Robert Patrick and Robert Englund. My life is complete! You don't ask for much! What are you going to do for the rest of your life now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychosis Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I think I need to find a new hero to make my life complete by meeting. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaigor Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I think the important thing to remember is that the people that are announced as guests are professional actors, directors etc and not professional autograph signers. These are people who make a living through their chosen vocation in the same way that us "commoners" do. I think it is unreasonable to expect an actor to turn down work for the sake of spending a day or two signing autographs. Admittedly there are some guests who are signing non stop from start to finish and some who probably only sign 100 autographs over a whole weekend but regardless of how busy they may be the majority of them are still working and still have to pay the rent. If they start turning down work in favour of events then they will stop getting work. For those people that are ripping into the guests for not showing ask yourself this. If you were unemployed and someone offered you a days work and then someone else offered you 6 months work and they both started on the same day, what would you do? Every event that gets organised whether it is run by Showmasters or not always advertises guests with the "subject to work commitments" proviso and to state that they have a contract so they should turn up then I fully expect the contract clearly says that if work turns up then would be relieved of their obligations. I don't think I have ever been to an event where every guest that was announced was able to attend. This is simply something that cannot be avoided and to suggest giving the guests unbreakable contracts then I agree with the earlier posts that the big name guests will not attend. The current system is the only way to ensure that the stars of current films/shows attend especially where the American stars are concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeDonovan Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 I think I need to find a new hero to make my life complete by meeting. Any suggestions? Me? I will bring an 8*10 of myself to the show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarina Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 I think I need to find a new hero to make my life complete by meeting. Any suggestions? Me? I will bring an 8*10 of myself to the show! ROFLMAO!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich5wolves Posted October 19, 2007 Author Share Posted October 19, 2007 What a load of tosh, actors are actors, I bet it would be real good if they turned down a part that may run for years, just to sign some moron's autograph. get real yeah you actually just called people who get autogrpahs morons................?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich5wolves Posted October 19, 2007 Author Share Posted October 19, 2007 We get this every time and the same names say it every time If you want i can solve this in one go. We can just go for guests that are not working any more. Then we will all have a better life than having to keep going on about guests having to pull out rich 5 just remember that Mr Lee pulled out of that show because he fell in the bath, and I could not come on here and say it at the time as his agent told me not to. What am I to say when I have been asked to say something other than "he fell in the bath" In the end some do-gooder that was trying to catch us out managed to get another guest to ring Mr. Lee to see if he had ever been coming to the show in the first place, and it was Mr Lee that told that guest that he fell in the bath. It was that person that told everyone on here "Its all crazy, guests drop out if they get work" We get them as and when we can and you going on about it makes me not want to keep trying to risk getting guests that may drop out because they are busy or hot right now Fans in the US complain to us that the shows over there do not get the big names we get here. We get emails like that every day People go on about us getting Burt Reynolds back. Well he has never been to a show like this in the US ever. We get most of the big names first in the world, we work 24/7 if we have to and do a better job at getting 1st timers than any other show in the world and we love doing it, but what really makes me wonder why I do all this is these threads that come up just before each show It seems to come up to try to put people off attending the show or to worry new fans and then we get 200 or 300 emails asking "do we really have this guest" So how about stopping before you put something up like this again? It will not change the odds of someone dropping out or being there on the day. It's all down to the gods Or we can just go for guests that do nothing now And on the Burt Reynolds thing I have one thing to say. I talked to Burt and he said that every actor should all do an event like this once in their life and he had a great time But he was not a spring chicken any more. He liked to stand up and shake everyones hand like a gentleman but it was very hard on him to do that When I asked him to come back another year he told me that he felt it was the job of a younger man but said that he did enjoy himself and thanks for asking him. So there you go Rant over Jason ps if I take a guest to court over a contract because they pulled out due to work, then I may as well get out of running events as no one will work with me "THINK ABOUT IT" it not hard to work out. Thank God most guests are fair and nice people So bascially it is down to the Gods not down to the contract. I do understand how it all works, as I said I was merely starting a topic of debate. Some good points on here. As for the Burt Reynolds thing, if he doesnt come back then so be it, its only a bit of fun anyhow. Its not like im planning to go stalk him or something. Jason, I am not trying to worry new fans by saying an announced guest may not actually turn up, thats a fact, but at the same time I take the point its the nature of the beast that this can happen and its not the organisers fault. The 2 usual do-gooders (you know who you are), thanks for your predictable but obvious answers. I have not attacked showmsters, I attend most events and spend £100's and I take the points of some people on here, but im not afraid to post something just because of what 1 or 2 of you will respond. Some people object and have something to say about whatever anyone writes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufresne Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Dufresne is right on the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychosis Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 rich, I actually sort of agree with you, and my mum flipped out when she knew that it was actually possible for actors to cancel. I completely understand where you're coming from... I just don't think there's anything that can be done about it. As has been said, they can't go around ruining their careers by refusing to turn up for shoots or turning down jobs. I guess the contract (do they actually sign one?) is a glorified good will gesture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showmasters Admin Too Tall Posted October 19, 2007 Showmasters Admin Share Posted October 19, 2007 (edited) Yes they do sign a contract. The contracts are for more than "I will turn up, I will pay you!", they'll have a lot more in them about the agreement between SM and the actor. Even down to things like start and end times, confirmation they can be added to advertising material, the list goes on. Edited October 19, 2007 by Too Tall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeDonovan Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Yes they do sign a contract. The contracts are for more than "I will turn up, I will pay you!", they'll have a lot more in them about the agreement between SM and the actor. Even down to things like start and end times, confirmation they can be added to advertising material, the list goes on. Too Tall - is there anything in Helen Slaters contract about "giving "Mike Donovan" a cheeky snog"? If not, can we have this clause added to her contract ASAP??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showmasters Admin Too Tall Posted October 19, 2007 Showmasters Admin Share Posted October 19, 2007 Too Tall - is there anything in Helen Slaters contract about "giving "Mike Donovan" a cheeky snog"? If not, can we have this clause added to her contract ASAP??? I'll see what I can do, but I can be a bit dyslexic so don't be surprised if it ends up being "giving "Mike Donovan" a cheeky slap"! Although you may enjoy that more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychosis Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Yes they do sign a contract. The contracts are for more than "I will turn up, I will pay you!", they'll have a lot more in them about the agreement between SM and the actor. Even down to things like start and end times, confirmation they can be added to advertising material, the list goes on. I see There's so much of this stuff most of us don't even think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobd_uk Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Some con companies (certainly one big US one) sometimes have clauses that prohibit guests from attending another con within a set number of miles prior to their one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufresne Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Too Tall - is there anything in Helen Slaters contract about "giving "Mike Donovan" a cheeky snog"? If not, can we have this clause added to her contract ASAP??? I'll see what I can do, but I can be a bit dyslexic so don't be surprised if it ends up being "giving "Mike Donovan" a cheeky slap"! Although you may enjoy that more Anyone mind if I start a queue ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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