Doctor who guests (LFCC 2023)

[Mfahey79]

18 hours ago, D-C-A said:

Oh I forgot to say one thing church did as a nice gesture when I had questioned him is he knew he did “the sun Makers” but the name eluded him but when I initially believed it to be “underworld” he went and watched it to see if it was that or if he might have done it as well, and fortunately for him he didn’t, but damn nice of him to feel the need to check

It's the same logic it seems how people worked out what story Dave Myers did make up on, as he couldnt remember himself, but he could describe what was others were working on around him. Which is how they pinpointed it to Vengeance on Varos

[D-C-A]

2 hours ago, Mfahey79 said:

I need to re-read it, but there was a recentish Doctor Who magazine feature on extras from the 60s' and a couple of agencies. but if memory recalls that several extras were hard to trace, or have two or three pages on imdb as the paperwork had spelling mistakes in peoples names which made it difficult when it came to tracking people down years down the line.

But this guy has nothing

I do recall an issue when checking names because even extras have used different names over the years, Paul Kirby was listed twice once for the Star Wars role that Showmasters had him down as, and then another which had his Doctor who (Un)Credits so i took the cover on a gamble incase it was one in the same and it was.

and then their was someone whose name eludes me that cancelled on LFCC 2022 he was listed on Showmasters by one name, but to cross reference him i checked him on a Star Wars Wiki where he was listed by an extended name (Second last name) then checked his IMDB where he appeared in "Time and the Rani" but i had to check the character names he played in Star Wars matched those on the IMDB as history has shown that most Doctor who Extras did Star wars and vice versa so that isn't anything to work with so the character details needed to match.

as for Street i did find an IMDB page for a Ron Street but it had one credit and none of what show-masters was saying he'd done, and even when i was given something to work from IE AT-AT driver the results yielded two other people entirely, which didn't help and cast doubt in my mind as Star Wars checkers are meticulous in the credits so the fact nothing came up when searched was what made me think somethings up.

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2 hours ago, Mfahey79 said:

It's the same logic it seems how people worked out what story Dave Myers did make up on, as he couldnt remember himself, but he could describe what was others were working on around him. Which is how they pinpointed it to Vengeance on Varos

sometimes all we have to work with are breadcrumbs, i found a lead and i took it, as many have previously, maybe i have a unique one now with Church on my Season 15 and my "The Sun Makers" even then its unlikely that any 2 people have the exact same names on each set, especially when the number increases, that said mine and my friends "Ghostlight" have the same four names on them, but thats because we both bought the same presigned covers and had Andrew Cartmel added to them (Both by me when it came to the script editor), but when i've attended events and see people getting one cover signed such as January this year people got 5 names on their copies of "An Unearthly Child" namingly Carole Ann-Ford, Clive Doig, Brian Hodgson, Dick Mills and Warris Hussein so that meant around 50 people had that combination, but i already had William Russell on the set meaning i had 6 at said conclusion, but a number of people than got the previously mentioned Elizabeth White on the same set meaning they had 6 but only 5 were the same, if that makes sense.

[Mfahey79]

28 minutes ago, D-C-A said:

sometimes all we have to work with are breadcrumbs, i found a lead and i took it, as many have previously, maybe i have a unique one now with Church on my Season 15 and my "The Sun Makers" even then its unlikely that any 2 people have the exact same names on each set, especially when the number increases, that said mine and my friends "Ghostlight" have the same four names on them, but thats because we both bought the same presigned covers and had Andrew Cartmel added to them (Both by me when it came to the script editor), but when i've attended events and see people getting one cover signed such as January this year people got 5 names on their copies of "An Unearthly Child" namingly Carole Ann-Ford, Clive Doig, Brian Hodgson, Dick Mills and Warris Hussein so that meant around 50 people had that combination, but i already had William Russell on the set meaning i had 6 at said conclusion, but a number of people than got the previously mentioned Elizabeth White on the same set meaning they had 6 but only 5 were the same, if that makes sense.

Makes perfect sense, I only wish I'd taken my copy of Vengeance when I did a Robin on Sherwood convention a few years ago and gotten Jason Connery on it. I have him in my diary. and he did remember working on the episodes. 

I must be one of a handful of people who have now completed posters for both main casts of Robin of Sherwood, with Ray Winstone appearing this year. Michael Praed on one and Jason the other. And one with a certain Jeremy Bulloch as well. 

I couldnt make this years Robin of Sherwood convention, due to family priorities, but the convention gods smiled on me and Ray cancelled this one but did LFCC

[Mfahey79]

I also have 6 now on my An Unearthly child, the same 6 you mention, all by pre-order though as so far every weekend that Fantom have an event I seem to work, and wasnt going to pass up a chance to get so many people from the first story sign.

I'll be adding Virginia Weatherell to The Daleks dvd, fingers crossed when she appears in Bedford next year, and as many Louise Jamesons as I can afford as well

52 minutes ago, D-C-A said:

I do recall an issue when checking names because even extras have used different names over the years, Paul Kirby was listed twice once for the Star Wars role that Showmasters had him down as, and then another which had his Doctor who (Un)Credits so i took the cover on a gamble incase it was one in the same and it was.

and then their was someone whose name eludes me that cancelled on LFCC 2022 he was listed on Showmasters by one name, but to cross reference him i checked him on a Star Wars Wiki where he was listed by an extended name (Second last name) then checked his IMDB where he appeared in "Time and the Rani" but i had to check the character names he played in Star Wars matched those on the IMDB as history has shown that most Doctor who Extras did Star wars and vice versa so that isn't anything to work with so the character details needed to match.

as for Street i did find an IMDB page for a Ron Street but it had one credit and none of what show-masters was saying he'd done, and even when i was given something to work from IE AT-AT driver the results yielded two other people entirely, which didn't help and cast doubt in my mind as Star Wars checkers are meticulous in the credits so the fact nothing came up when searched was what made me think somethings up.

It was the same as when they announced Mike Kent at one of last years Film Fairs, apparently he had played a cyberman in Earthshock, and I thought I had researched pretty extensively all the actors who had worked as Cybermen and never came across his name before.   

[D-C-A]

14 hours ago, Mfahey79 said:

Makes perfect sense, I only wish I'd taken my copy of Vengeance when I did a Robin on Sherwood convention a few years ago and gotten Jason Connery on it. I have him in my diary. and he did remember working on the episodes. 

I must be one of a handful of people who have now completed posters for both main casts of Robin of Sherwood, with Ray Winstone appearing this year. Michael Praed on one and Jason the other. And one with a certain Jeremy Bulloch as well. 

I couldnt make this years Robin of Sherwood convention, due to family priorities, but the convention gods smiled on me and Ray cancelled this one but did LFCC

Thankfully I’ve yet to run into someone who has done the same event as Me seen I have an extra name or two in the “important” category and then who would proceed to give me grief over it.

i know their was a couple of people like that at LfCC who were very much if they couldn’t get it they’d make it everyone’s problem, and one had a nasty habit of being friends with my friends but was starting to annoy me something fierce and I did get told not to show her my photos even tho I was higher in the pecking order and got mine.

its going to stand to reason that in January where Jemma Redgrave is attending someone will see my Series 14 will have Ncuti, Millie, Langford and Devrient on there proceed to get jealous and annoyed at me for showing off, when in reality I just want her on my set, because in a hobby where in the theoretical sense there can be an infinite number of copies that are signed, some people do like to get annoyed if you have someone and they don’t, be it because they can’t afford it, they feel entitled to it for whatever reason ETC ETC I have no idea, but it bugs me

Once I have got Redgrave however then all I’m missing is Greenidge, Twist and whoever plays Rubys nan for the regulars, add on Lenny Rush and Anita Dobson and I’d say I’d hit a good number of the bigger names for the set, following on I’ll want some of the bigger guests stars, such as Johnathon Groff, Jinx Monsoon and Gabriel Wolfe.

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14 hours ago, Mfahey79 said:

I also have 6 now on my An Unearthly child, the same 6 you mention, all by pre-order though as so far every weekend that Fantom have an event I seem to work, and wasnt going to pass up a chance to get so many people from the first story sign.

I'll be adding Virginia Weatherell to The Daleks dvd, fingers crossed when she appears in Bedford next year, and as many Louise Jamesons as I can afford as well

It was the same as when they announced Mike Kent at one of last years Film Fairs, apparently he had played a cyberman in Earthshock, and I thought I had researched pretty extensively all the actors who had worked as Cybermen and never came across his name before.   

I guess sometimes we all make mistakes and forget a few facts, I was trying to look up an actor from Londons burning credited as Furman Dar but then I found out the actor changed his name making it tricky to find him.

but if a more notable actor can do such a thing extras may do so as well, someone’s they even deliberately act under false names for many reasons

[Mfahey79]

4 hours ago, D-C-A said:

Thankfully I’ve yet to run into someone who has done the same event as Me seen I have an extra name or two in the “important” category and then who would proceed to give me grief over it.

i know their was a couple of people like that at LfCC who were very much if they couldn’t get it they’d make it everyone’s problem, and one had a nasty habit of being friends with my friends but was starting to annoy me something fierce and I did get told not to show her my photos even tho I was higher in the pecking order and got mine.

its going to stand to reason that in January where Jemma Redgrave is attending someone will see my Series 14 will have Ncuti, Millie, Langford and Devrient on there proceed to get jealous and annoyed at me for showing off, when in reality I just want her on my set, because in a hobby where in the theoretical sense there can be an infinite number of copies that are signed, some people do like to get annoyed if you have someone and they don’t, be it because they can’t afford it, they feel entitled to it for whatever reason ETC ETC I have no idea, but it bugs me

Once I have got Redgrave however then all I’m missing is Greenidge, Twist and whoever plays Rubys nan for the regulars, add on Lenny Rush and Anita Dobson and I’d say I’d hit a good number of the bigger names for the set, following on I’ll want some of the bigger guests stars, such as Johnathon Groff, Jinx Monsoon and Gabriel Wolfe.

We must be in the minority, in that we still call it series 14 rather than series 1. With Millie and Ncuti my set as discussed previously is complete baring the artist ever doing a convention that is.

Jemma was at the Bedford Charity convention this year, so was added to season 8, he power of the doctor steelbook and the 60th. I cant remember why she didnt go on my season 7. but season 9 is just going to be Jenna and Peter, and season 13 is just going to be Jodie, Mandip and John Bishop tough to complete I know

Devrient would have gone on the 60th had I not had to catch a train, so hopefully he will return.

Ruby's nan is Angela Wynter who is a regular on Eastenders so I cant see when she'll be free to do a show, but then she was a regular when she did both episodes of Doctor Who, so it could be possible

Lenny Rush was the curveball by appearing in summer, and being a busy actor, we can only hope for a return appearance 

[Mfahey79]

4 hours ago, D-C-A said:

I guess sometimes we all make mistakes and forget a few facts, I was trying to look up an actor from Londons burning credited as Furman Dar but then I found out the actor changed his name making it tricky to find him.

but if a more notable actor can do such a thing extras may do so as well, someone’s they even deliberately act under false names for many reasons

It does also raise the question, is the lists online correct or are the actors credited as Cybermen just actors with similar names, as some dont show up in any other role other than as a Cyberman

[D-C-A]

7 hours ago, Mfahey79 said:

We must be in the minority, in that we still call it series 14 rather than series 1. With Millie and Ncuti my set as discussed previously is complete baring the artist ever doing a convention that is.

Jemma was at the Bedford Charity convention this year, so was added to season 8, he power of the doctor steelbook and the 60th. I cant remember why she didnt go on my season 7. but season 9 is just going to be Jenna and Peter, and season 13 is just going to be Jodie, Mandip and John Bishop tough to complete I know

Devrient would have gone on the 60th had I not had to catch a train, so hopefully he will return.

Ruby's nan is Angela Wynter who is a regular on Eastenders so I cant see when she'll be free to do a show, but then she was a regular when she did both episodes of Doctor Who, so it could be possible

Lenny Rush was the curveball by appearing in summer, and being a busy actor, we can only hope for a return appearance 

I have Gemma on my Series 7 set as at the time that took priority and if memory serves was the last time the cover has been outside of my house given that it’s to me too valuable to move, unless somewhere announced Steven Moffat and I felt compelled because even David Bradley or Richard E Grant would have to go on the booklet or the inside sleeve.

rush was announced at the wrong time that is what I’ve heard everyone say, their was no merchandise he’d done on the market and many people wanted him for that, he’s one guest I have a photo with but no autograph as I wasn’t doing 10X8 prints at the time and it’s the same with Josie Sedgwick Davis, and had they not removed the trailer for series 14 from the blu ray of “the church on Ruby Road” we might have had something, but alas nope.

and yes I call it series 14 people think I’m being petty but my reasoning is more solid than that, referring to it as a fresh start to the franchise is okay as it’s a new era after all, but the 60th anniversary just happened, and then relying on the past so much is only going to confuse newcomers and will be further complicated by calling it season 1.

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7 hours ago, Mfahey79 said:

It does also raise the question, is the lists online correct or are the actors credited as Cybermen just actors with similar names, as some dont show up in any other role other than as a Cyberman

Really I take what information either the wiki has and filter out what’s correct, use IMDB and do the same, or even the DVDs info text as an example Sylvia James I had down as make up for “the smugglers” and then Blocks 5&6 along with most of Season 9, season 12 bar “Revenge of the cybermen” and then “Terror of the Zygons”, but then when the DVD of “the celestial Toymaker” came out it stated she worked on that as well as an assistant so I had to go back and update all the info on my lists, can’t get better than the official sources.

but that’s why I encourage research because sometimes who knows, the older magazines have outdated info but use them, even Tracey Eddon forgot she doubled for Elizabeth Sladen when I mentioned it, and assumed she’d only done so for Sophie Aldred, and now I want a return appearance from her so I can get her on my “Genesis of the Daleks” with Sladen

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also in terms of Guests for LFCC Spring 2025, i will start covering those next month, as it stands i think there is wait for a cool down over the mess that was the previous event before we think about the next event.

[Mfahey79]

16 hours ago, D-C-A said:

and yes I call it series 14 people think I’m being petty but my reasoning is more solid than that, referring to it as a fresh start to the franchise is okay as it’s a new era after all, but the 60th anniversary just happened, and then relying on the past so much is only going to confuse newcomers and will be further complicated by calling it season 1.

Same logic as me, technically the new Disney era you could argue started with the specials, rather than the start of the new series.

I know they want to use this as a jumping on point, but then surely thats what the specials were for rather than a bridge between the eras

[Mfahey79]

16 hours ago, D-C-A said:

Really I take what information either the wiki has and filter out what’s correct, use IMDB and do the same, or even the DVDs info text as an example Sylvia James I had down as make up for “the smugglers” and then Blocks 5&6 along with most of Season 9, season 12 bar “Revenge of the cybermen” and then “Terror of the Zygons”, but then when the DVD of “the celestial Toymaker” came out it stated she worked on that as well as an assistant so I had to go back and update all the info on my lists, can’t get better than the official sources.

but that’s why I encourage research because sometimes who knows, the older magazines have outdated info but use them, even Tracey Eddon forgot she doubled for Elizabeth Sladen when I mentioned it, and assumed she’d only done so for Sophie Aldred, and now I want a return appearance from her so I can get her on my “Genesis of the Daleks” with Sladen

same, then googling individual episodes to se if it throws up and different names, I have names that their only reference online is that they were Cybermen.

Now for example are John Wills and Sonnie Wills from the Moonbase the same actor or are they related. This thread has made me raise this question, as did someone scribble Johnnie Wills down and their hand writing was misread, or am I just now looking for stuff that isnt there

Most people would be getting Tracey for Star Wars, as she was also Carrie Fishers double. They were using her photo from Genesis as one of the pre-orders (im 99% sure) 

 

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2 hours ago, Mfahey79 said:

same, then googling individual episodes to se if it throws up and different names, I have names that their only reference online is that they were Cybermen.

Now for example are John Wills and Sonnie Wills from the Moonbase the same actor or are they related. This thread has made me raise this question, as did someone scribble Johnnie Wills down and their hand writing was misread, or am I just now looking for stuff that isnt there

Most people would be getting Tracey for Star Wars, as she was also Carrie Fishers double. They were using her photo from Genesis as one of the pre-orders (im 99% sure) 

 

Often enough fans tend to remember more than the actors themselves, but sometimes their are credits even when actors don’t appear, well out of left field and was likely done to trick people into assuming the character was going to appear but an episode of “power Rangers Zeo” gave a guest staring credit to Amy Jo Johnson but she only appeared in stock footage, or possibly more known is that Betsy Palmer who was Mrs Vorhees in “Friday the 13th” only ever talked about doing the first one as she claimed to only have done that first one (older interviews she was less than happy with it, but later ones she comes around on it) but she did film the second one.

so with Eddon it’s likely because she did a single episode in 1975 before returning 12 years later in a semi regular basis doubling for Sophie Aldred it would make sense for her to only remember the latter.

[Mfahey79]

11 hours ago, D-C-A said:

Often enough fans tend to remember more than the actors themselves, but sometimes their are credits even when actors don’t appear, well out of left field and was likely done to trick people into assuming the character was going to appear but an episode of “power Rangers Zeo” gave a guest staring credit to Amy Jo Johnson but she only appeared in stock footage, or possibly more known is that Betsy Palmer who was Mrs Vorhees in “Friday the 13th” only ever talked about doing the first one as she claimed to only have done that first one (older interviews she was less than happy with it, but later ones she comes around on it) but she did film the second one.

so with Eddon it’s likely because she did a single episode in 1975 before returning 12 years later in a semi regular basis doubling for Sophie Aldred it would make sense for her to only remember the latter.

How many shows have put special guest appearance of x at the start , spoiling their return to the show. Buffy purposely kept Anthony Head's appearance of the opening credits, to make it more dramatic when he came back for the closing scene

I suppose they had to credit Amy Jo Johnson, as technically she did appear in the episode

 

Edited November 22, 2024 by Mfahey79

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On 11/21/2024 at 11:08 PM, Mfahey79 said:

How many shows have put special guest appearance of x at the start , spoiling their return to the show. Buffy purposely kept Anthony Head's appearance of the opening credits, to make it more dramatic when he came back for the closing scene

I suppose they had to credit Amy Jo Johnson, as technically she did appear in the episode

 

To think how Credits have been used well to hide actors and have absolutely blown plot twists entirely, I mean Doctor who has a long history of getting it right and wrong, they used to hide which monsters were coming back by saying monster or alien in the radiotimes instead of say Cyberman or Ice Warrior (often helped if the actors hadn’t been in the show before) and yet the attempt at a cunning deception calling one episode “Invasion” was absolutely blown when radio times decided to announce “Invasion of the dinosaurs” and show a photo giving the game away entirely.

Also speaking of Anthony head he would be a good one for Doctor who fans and Buffy Fans alike crossing both shows in ways I can’t even keep full track of but he has at least 4 who credits to my knowledge.

[LSmith]

On 11/20/2024 at 7:29 PM, Mfahey79 said:

We must be in the minority, in that we still call it series 14 rather than series 1. With Millie and Ncuti my set as discussed previously is complete baring the artist ever doing a convention that is.

Jemma was at the Bedford Charity convention this year, so was added to season 8, he power of the doctor steelbook and the 60th. I cant remember why she didnt go on my season 7. but season 9 is just going to be Jenna and Peter, and season 13 is just going to be Jodie, Mandip and John Bishop tough to complete I know

Devrient would have gone on the 60th had I not had to catch a train, so hopefully he will return.

Ruby's nan is Angela Wynter who is a regular on Eastenders so I cant see when she'll be free to do a show, but then she was a regular when she did both episodes of Doctor Who, so it could be possible

Lenny Rush was the curveball by appearing in summer, and being a busy actor, we can only hope for a return appearance 

Lenny rush  appeared to be enjoying it he was so nice to meet do hope to get him on my boxset next time 

[Mfahey79]

46 minutes ago, LSmith said:

Lenny rush  appeared to be enjoying it he was so nice to meet do hope to get him on my boxset next time 

Lovely guy, he's got a bright future

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53 minutes ago, LSmith said:

Lenny rush  appeared to be enjoying it he was so nice to meet do hope to get him on my boxset next time 

Wondering what happened to you, hope the event went smooth for you.

but Rush attending another event is something we all want, I’m now wondering how many people have the same combination on series 14 as me now, especially given the chaotic nature that was the weekend, makes me wish I also got James Burge for “the Pyramids of Mars” a few months back but because they edited out his hand and my budget was tight I felt cheated.

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9 minutes ago, Mfahey79 said:

Lovely guy, he's got a bright future

I hope he appears again, I think the series is long over due a UNIT regular cast and with Coleman, Devrient, Langford, Rush and even Finney I’d say we’re golden and set if they appear in the main show.

that said I just realised that Series 14 will now take serious priority when it comes to signing given whose on it, similar to Series 2 and 7

[Mfahey79]

35 minutes ago, D-C-A said:

I hope he appears again, I think the series is long over due a UNIT regular cast and with Coleman, Devrient, Langford, Rush and even Finney I’d say we’re golden and set if they appear in the main show.

that said I just realised that Series 14 will now take serious priority when it comes to signing given whose on it, similar to Series 2 and 7

I think we are set to get that, with the War between the Land and the Sea, we are getting a UNIT family again, whether they make regular appearances in the main show, we shall see, but hopefully. Add Ruth Madeley into the mix as well.

And they've said it wont happen, and he wont be back, but UNIT will not be able to resist calling on a retired scientific advisor should the need arise, especially with his best friend and niece on the staff

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28 minutes ago, Mfahey79 said:

I think we are set to get that, with the War between the Land and the Sea, we are getting a UNIT family again, whether they make regular appearances in the main show, we shall see, but hopefully. Add Ruth Madeley into the mix as well.

And they've said it wont happen, and he wont be back, but UNIT will not be able to resist calling on a retired scientific advisor should the need arise, especially with his best friend and niece on the staff

I can imagine in 9 years, today specifically 9 years we’ll probably see him back.

but a UNIT family would be great to see again, especially if it means getting them at events more.

[Mfahey79]

3 hours ago, D-C-A said:

I can imagine in 9 years, today specifically 9 years we’ll probably see him back.

but a UNIT family would be great to see again, especially if it means getting them at events more.

Why, what is so significant about the 23rd November. I got nothing lol

[Mfahey79]

The colourisation work they have done the the upcoming War Games release looks brilliant. But why do they have to make it a 90min version for a 'modern' audience