Moderators DavidB Posted July 20, 2007 Moderators Share Posted July 20, 2007 OK now the quiet summer TV break is upon us, so I figured maybe it's time I gave the older Who a go, but there's so much out there I'm not quite sure where to jump in. I know there are plenty of knowledgeable people on here, so I thought I'd ask I vaguely remember seeing some late McCoy stuff, but that's about it. Ideally, I'd like something easily accessible and not too confusing - and for story style, I prefer the suspenseful creepy stuff. I know that's not much to go on but hopefully someone can help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzlerjames Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Stating the obvious really but try to avoid the later stuff. Start right at the beginning with the first story just to get a starting point. UKTV Drama did a good showing last weekend I believe of some of the best episodes might be worth trying to find their listings. (I missed it - at CE). Many people will say the Tom Baker years were the best but make your own mind up - I preferred Peter Davidson (I think it depends how old you were at the time). Bit vague sorry but specific stories aren't my forte (not a massive fan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godandtheangel Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 From the Baker days watch Genesis of the Daleks, Talons of Weng Chiang, City of Death -- in my opinion his three best adventures. If you like creepy stuff have a look at the Philip Hinchcliffe produced era with stories like the Brain of Morbius, Seeds of Doom. Most of the Pertwees are great to, in particilar the ones with Katy Manning UNIT and the Master. The Daemons is one of the best of that period, also Terror of the Autons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Keeping in mind that many of the first and second Doctor stories are lost thanks to BBC tape junking, and can only be accessed now as audios, some of the ones I'd recommend are: First Doctor - An Unearthly Child - first ever story, not the best, but worth watching to see how it all began, and to see a Doctor ruthless enough to consider crushing the skull of an unconscious enemy The Daleks - first appearance of the arch nemesis The Time Meddler - again, not the best, but historical for another show first - which, in the unlikely event you don't already know, I won't spoil. Tenth Planet - first regeneration, first Cybermen. Second Doctor - Tomb of the Cybermen Web of Fear (most episodes audio only) - spooky, and another first for the show The War Games - some feel its overlong at 10 episodes, but I enjoyed it, plus it introduces the Time Lords and includes a villain who looks to be the template of someone who came along a year or two later. I'd recommend more, but so little of Pat Troughton's stuff remains intact. Third Doctor - Terror of the Autons - first Master, plus some nice eerie moments The Three Doctors - just for the historical value of all three Doctors together Planet of the Spiders Fourth Doctor The Ark in Space - for my money, where the fourth Doctor's "creepy" adventures begin Genesis of the Daleks - origins of the Daleks, introducing their creator, and just a very dark story Terror of the Zygons Pyramids of Mars The Brain of Morbius The Seeds of Doom - four of the show's creepy era best The Deadly Assassin - first time we see Gallifrey The Talons of Weng-Chiang - bar the rat (damn the production values of that era) it's about the best creepy story the show produced. Horror of Fang Rock The Pirate Planet - just because Douglas Adams wrote it City of Death - another DA masterpiece State of Decay - very gothic Fifth Doctor Only one here, Caves of Androzani I love loads of the Peter Davison era, but very little is creepy Sixth Doctor Listen to his Big Finish audios first, as he was lumbered with some weak on-screen stories that never fully do him justice (there's some good bits in there, but pretty consistently let down by other parts of the production). Seventh Doctor Remembrance of the Daleks Curse of Fenric Curse of the Fatal Death is also worth tracking down if you can - not officially part of the canon, but Steven Moffat wrote it, so that should be enough of a recommendation in itself. If you are up for listening to audios as well, then try out The Pescatons - 4th Doctor tale narrated rather eerily by Tom Baker Shada - 8th Doctor audio completing a 4th Doctor tale killed by industrial action The Spectre of Lanyon Moor The Fires of Vulcan (yes, Bonnie Langford actually could have been a good companion) Shadow of the Scourge - featuring the 7th Doctor and companions as they became in the novels after the show went off air. The Holy Terror - initially one of the funniest, then as the story progresses one of the most tragic, Who stories The Stones of Venice Dust Breeding Project Twilight The One Doctor - one of the sillier stories, lots of fun Invaders from Mars The Chimes of Midnight Spare Parts Jubilee Doctor Who and the Pirates Omega Davros Master Medicinal Purposes - starring a pre-Doctor David Tennant The Kingmaker Circular Time - specifically the Summer section Horror of Glam Rock The Maltese Penguin Auld Mortality Sympathy for the Devil - with another Tennant performance Full Fathom Five Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufresne Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Eerie or not, I love most of the Davison stuff. Caves of Androzani, Earthshock (see ya Matthew ) The Visitation etc. TBH You are best to start with Tom and Peter. Earlier stuff is often very off-putting for newer audiences, and late Colin / most of Sylv descends into ridicule - stupid BBC politics !! Yeah, Seeds of Doom, Horror of Fang Rock, Castrovalva. And check out some of the DVD extras - they help set the scene !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosfer2 Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Most of the stories I would recommend have already been mentioned. One Sixth Doctor story worth watching is Vengeance on Varos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted July 20, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted July 20, 2007 Thanks for all the help everyone, much appreciated Will definitely look into picking some up .. the DVDs do seem like good quality releases with a lot of effort put into them and the extras, which is what I like to see. Also wondering something else, but not worth starting a new topic - the Eccleston Who series was released in that horribly large Tardis set - has it been re-released at all in similar packaging to the second series? I've been looking at different sites and they seem to show different ones .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosfer2 Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Yes, there's a slimline set now. It's a bit annoying as the one I have takes up so much space on my shelf, but it's been signed by Paul Cornell so I'm going to keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted July 20, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted July 20, 2007 Ah that's good, thanks I've got so many DVDs now, any potential space-saving is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacknDaniel Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Hey David, being a lifelong Who fan, i grew up watching McCoy's last 2 seasons so ive got a soft spot for them, but my favourite doctor is William Hartnell, Number 1, closely followed by 2 and 3. Definitely get the Beginning to start with, and id recommend all other Hartnell and Troughton ones. Most people obviously think Tom Baker is best, but i have always disagreed, he did have a few of the best stories the show has seen, but he also had A LOT of the worst stories of the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Hi DB Stuart has already mentioned quite a few of the ones I would recommend , The War Games is a personal favorite of mine. Others I would recommend though, Robots of Death (Tom Baker) Ghostlight / Silver Nemesis (McCoy) Spearhead from Space / Inferno (Pertwee) The Black Guardian trilogy (Davison) Although Ghostlight and Robots of Death are probably the only ones to meet your creepy criteria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annabellatook Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Just bought a jon pertwee box set from Amazon. Well worth the money too. Watched the following from it last night: Inferno, The Claws of Axos. groovy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufresne Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) David - try and get a look at Ghostlight before LFACC. It was written by Marc Platt, who will be there with the Blake's Seven audio crew !! I can't see him objecting to signing the DVD .... maybe for free Oh, and Ben Aaronovich wrote Remembrance of the Daleks .... Edited August 20, 2007 by dufresne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted August 20, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted August 20, 2007 Ahh good thinking, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosfer2 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 David - try and get a look at Ghostlight before LFACC. It was written by Marc Platt, who will be there with the Blake's Seven audio crew !! I can't see him objecting to signing the DVD .... maybe for free Oh, and Ben Aaronovich wrote Remembrance of the Daleks .... Thanks for pointing this out. I hadn't noticed them when I looked through the guest list but would like to meet them both. Does anyone know whether they are likely to be charging for autographs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufresne Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I wouldn't have thought so, but it might take a cheap purchase from their stand to be polite. Failing that, you could always hijack someone who is buying something into getting an auto for you. I certainly don't see them charging £15 an auto like the "main" guests ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisStone1983uk32 Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 THE PAUL McGANN MOVIE IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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