Showmasters Admin showmasters Posted April 14, 2010 Showmasters Admin Share Posted April 14, 2010 We are pleased to announce MALCOLM WEAVER http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0915912/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BretinFlorida Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 (edited) We are pleased to announce MALCOLM WEAVER http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0915912/ Hmmm...everything I can find for him online lists his SW experience as being a Stormtrooper in ROTJ and that's it. Seemed he was rumored to have been involved in the sail barge scene as a henchman but told people that he never traveled to the US. I need him on my Raiders poster regardless - but I'd think if he was the guy who got shot in these photos he would have mentioned it previously. Edited April 14, 2010 by BretinFlorida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators swsigsuk Posted April 14, 2010 Moderators Share Posted April 14, 2010 We are pleased to announce MALCOLM WEAVER http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0915912/ Hmmm...everything I can find for him online lists his SW experience as being a Stormtrooper in ROTJ and that's it. Seemed he was rumored to have been involved in the sail barge scene as a henchman but told people that he never traveled to the US. I need him on my Raiders poster regardless - but I'd think if he was the guy who got shot in these photos he would have mentioned it previously. If you'd met Malcolm at the previous event and spoken to him you would know that his memory is hazy to say the least. He remembers very little of his work, especially the stuff from 30+ years ago. As Nick Gillard put it 'Malcolm has been dropped on his head a lot during his career'. Anyway, as far as this role is concerned, another star wars fan, having met Malcolm, noticed that this character looked rather a lot like him. The pictures were passed on to Malcolm, and he confirmed it is him in them, although he has little to no memory of his time on the film (ditto aliens, jedi etc etc). Sometimes finding out who played what takes a bit more detective work than just what you can find online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BretinFlorida Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 (edited) We are pleased to announce MALCOLM WEAVER http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0915912/ Hmmm...everything I can find for him online lists his SW experience as being a Stormtrooper in ROTJ and that's it. Seemed he was rumored to have been involved in the sail barge scene as a henchman but told people that he never traveled to the US. I need him on my Raiders poster regardless - but I'd think if he was the guy who got shot in these photos he would have mentioned it previously. If you'd met Malcolm at the previous event and spoken to him you would know that his memory is hazy to say the least. He remembers very little of his work, especially the stuff from 30+ years ago. As Nick Gillard put it 'Malcolm has been dropped on his head a lot during his career'. Anyway, as far as this role is concerned, another star wars fan, having met Malcolm, noticed that this character looked rather a lot like him. The pictures were passed on to Malcolm, and he confirmed it is him in them, although he has little to no memory of his time on the film (ditto aliens, jedi etc etc). Sometimes finding out who played what takes a bit more detective work than just what you can find online. Sorry to have offended Graham... :) As a poster guy, it's just a bit frustrating sometimes trying to nail down who did what on which movie - not saying Malcolm was "Lightning Bear"-esque, but was curious. Sadly I haven't been able to meet him as being in the States I don't get over often. It will be nice to meet him - and you - at CM 16 though. Thanks for clearing it up - I'll just ask you direct in the future! Edited April 14, 2010 by BretinFlorida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators swsigsuk Posted April 14, 2010 Moderators Share Posted April 14, 2010 No problem dude, sorry if the tone of my reply was a bit strong. I hadn't taken offence, was just trying to make it as unequivocal as possible to avoid the did he/didn't he speculation spreading like wildfire. Once it starts it can't be stopped; people still try to tell me the Sylla bros played Stormtroopers, Sadie Eden played Garindan, Cy Town was in ANH etc etc etc I will try and put together a proper list of who of these guests did what and get it up on the forum in the next day or so. That way there will be a proper place for any queries to be addressed. Looking forward to meeting you at the event, I'll be there Sat/Sun/Mon Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstractharmony Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 No problem dude, sorry if the tone of my reply was a bit strong. I hadn't taken offence, was just trying to make it as unequivocal as possible to avoid the did he/didn't he speculation spreading like wildfire. Once it starts it can't be stopped; people still try to tell me the Sylla bros played Stormtroopers, Sadie Eden played Garindan, Cy Town was in ANH etc etc etc I will try and put together a proper list of who of these guests did what and get it up on the forum in the next day or so. That way there will be a proper place for any queries to be addressed. Looking forward to meeting you at the event, I'll be there Sat/Sun/Mon Graham I've always wondered who played this guy. Excellent guest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosfer2 Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 As a poster guy, it's just a bit frustrating sometimes trying to nail down who did what on which movie - not saying Malcolm was "Lightning Bear"-esque, but was curious. Good guest announcement. Is Lightning Bear a legitimate Star Wars guest or not? I met him at a one-off event and got a signed photo, but since then I've heard rumours that he might not have had any involvement in the Star Wars films so I'd appreciate knowing if I wasted my money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators swsigsuk Posted April 16, 2010 Moderators Share Posted April 16, 2010 There is no absolute proof either way with Bear, and there probably never will be. What I can tell you is, unlike Malcolm who freely admits not remembering what he did, Bear has claimed wildly different things at different times to different people. What started as simple claims to be a Biker Scout on Jedi ballooned to Stormtroopers in all 3 movies, Royal Guards, Skiff guards, Snowtroopers and even recording the voice for one Stormtrooper. Certainly some of that is false, and he has retracted some of the claims, but when you put it all into context it gets even shakier for him. The fact is not one member of the stunt team on any film can remember him, and he is a pretty memorable guy. Many of them swear blind there is no way Peter Diamond would ever have hired him. In fact his whole film career is in question as he has repeatedly claimed roles in other movies that don't belong to him, and nobody seems able to corroborate any of his stories. Frank Billington-Marks, who built props on Empire and IS credited, has backed up some of his claims, but he is a very close friend of Bear's with similar question marks over other aspects of his life, so perhaps not wholly trustworthy either. Bear's life away from his 'film career' is even more murky. His claims about his heritage have been refuted and he has faced alarming legal proceedings over some of his 'religious practices' which are too graphic and disturbing to reproduce here. So, on one side we have vague and fluctuating memories with no evidence or corroboration, and on the other we have a tight-knit stunt community swearing blind he never worked on them and large question marks over his character. You decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraHawk Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Hmmm...everything I can find for him online lists his SW experience as being a Stormtrooper in ROTJ and that's it. Seemed he was rumored to have been involved in the sail barge scene as a henchman but told people that he never traveled to the US. Thread from last time round is worth reading http://showmastersonline.com/forums/index....=MALCOLM+WEAVER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showmasters Admin showmasters Posted April 20, 2010 Author Showmasters Admin Share Posted April 20, 2010 Is Lightning Bear a legitimate Star Wars guest or not? I met him at a one-off event and got a signed photo, but since then I've heard rumours that he might not have had any involvement in the Star Wars films so I'd appreciate knowing if I wasted my money. i knew Peter Dimond very well, i got him to his first con and worked with him at 5 events and talked to him on the phone many times , we talked once about Mr Lightning Bear and he told me out right that he had never met Lightning Bear on any film he had worked on ever, and he was someone that was just a big "fake" as he put it . he also pointed out that the list of films that Lightning Bear was telling people he had worked on was very odd , as he must have been an amazing talented person, as Lightning Bear never worked on a flop movie , every film he worked on from 1961 to 1984 was a hit or was critchley acclaimed and even though he was only a stunt guy he seemed to only do the big film that year and nothing else, what a very lucky career, and being able to pick the big movie of that year before it was being made , he must have been good to do that, Peter said he wished he had of been so lucky picking the films wether it be in the US or US , bering in mind that flights back and forth cost a fortune back in those days , much more than a stunt mans wages , Pater called him a "Fake" and as thats what he told me and he was head of the stunt men i believed him , sins then i also looked at every name on every call sheet and all the insurance paperwork , every daily progress report in fact every document Gary had in the archive and there is no one named Lightning Bear in it what so ever , and also in the 50,000 images in the Kurtz/Joiner archive there is no one looking like he dose in any photo on SW & ESB at all Graham and my self looked out for him in every image there was nothing . now after Peter Dimond told me that Lightning Bear was a fake i felt that i could not ever book this man as a guest , and i have never booked Lightning Bear as a guest at any of the events i have been involved with sins 1992 i respected Peter Dimond as someone with nothing to gain by saying this and i believe him to this day . make of this what you want i am just telling you what i believe and was told. jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeDonovan Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 I like the fact that on his website, he has a gallery that basically amounts to a load of pictures of Biker Scouts. Seriously, that could be anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosfer2 Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Is Lightning Bear a legitimate Star Wars guest or not? I met him at a one-off event and got a signed photo, but since then I've heard rumours that he might not have had any involvement in the Star Wars films so I'd appreciate knowing if I wasted my money. i knew Peter Dimond very well, i got him to his first con and worked with him at 5 events and talked to him on the phone many times , we talked once about Mr Lightning Bear and he told me out right that he had never met Lightning Bear on any film he had worked on ever, and he was someone that was just a big "fake" as he put it . he also pointed out that the list of films that Lightning Bear was telling people he had worked on was very odd , as he must have been an amazing talented person, as Lightning Bear never worked on a flop movie , every film he worked on from 1961 to 1984 was a hit or was critchley acclaimed and even though he was only a stunt guy he seemed to only do the big film that year and nothing else, what a very lucky career, and being able to pick the big movie of that year before it was being made , he must have been good to do that, Peter said he wished he had of been so lucky picking the films wether it be in the US or US , bering in mind that flights back and forth cost a fortune back in those days , much more than a stunt mans wages , Pater called him a "Fake" and as thats what he told me and he was head of the stunt men i believed him , sins then i also looked at every name on every call sheet and all the insurance paperwork , every daily progress report in fact every document Gary had in the archive and there is no one named Lightning Bear in it what so ever , and also in the 50,000 images in the Kurtz/Joiner archive there is no one looking like he dose in any photo on SW & ESB at all Graham and my self looked out for him in every image there was nothing . now after Peter Dimond told me that Lightning Bear was a fake i felt that i could not ever book this man as a guest , and i have never booked Lightning Bear as a guest at any of the events i have been involved with sins 1992 i respected Peter Dimond as someone with nothing to gain by saying this and i believe him to this day . make of this what you want i am just telling you what i believe and was told. jason Thanks Jason. At least I only bought a signed photo, I'd be really pissed off if he'd signed a multi-signed item! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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