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[snot182]

seen the Raw (and Smakdown) results already....

couple of returns and another bad injury, look forward to watching it tonight

[Jonesy]

All these comments are pre-Raw broadcast tonight:

Just read the results, and I am looking forward to the exchange between the first two. Whoever scripted that had it spot on with content.

Glad about one very special return as I have missed them. A highlight for tonight.  

A good segment to send from the sound of it. Found out that 90% of the feud has been left to them rather than the writers. These two work well together.

Just read about the injury and it sounds nasty. A shame to happen now of all times.

Edited by Jonesy, 01 September 2008 - 06:00 PM.

[Jonesy]

Raw, Smackdown and ECW are being taped right now in the UK.

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Blackpool's own William Regal beat Santino Marella to win the IC Title.

I would like to have seen Marella beaten by someone on a potential career building, but it is possible that Regal may be an interim champion or at the start of a new storyline. It is possible that he will drop it to Jamie Noble.

[snot182]

my only problem with this is the fact it was a squash...

i dunno actually, that and we dont get another Honk-a-perfect mountie meter...

regal makes a more credible champ than Santino tho imo

enjoyed Raw this week tho, hbk/y2j was a great match, disapointed with no Haas tho

oh, i hope Ted Dibiase isnt in the dog house again...

[Jonesy]

In my opinion there was no way that the WWE would have kept the Honk-A-Meter up for the record. Ith as established Santino as having good mic skills, but Marella has never shown good wrestling skills to date. I am sure that his comedy side will continue in one form or another.

Ted DiBiase Jr is presently on his honeymoon as he got married very recently. That is why Orton took him out.

This past Raw was seen as a new start with feuds ending and new ones beginning. Raw should be interesting. I hope Christian turens up on Raw if he does jump as I think there is a space for him.

[SlippDigby]

Saw the RAW tour show at the NEC on Tuesday night and it was really good the highlights were Steve (sorry, William) Regal v Marella, CM Punk and Kingstone  v Cody Rhodes and Mannu, Randy Orton v Ray Mysterio, JBL n KBK and Y2j v Batista.

The only real disappointment was Kane v a Hulkalike character that was more comedy that wrestling.  Even Kane was sniggering through most of it.

Great show though.  Good to see Punky, HBK and BATISTA live.  David was also a guest on Paul O'Grady's show last week (my mum taped it for me. OK?  Yeah really!!!   ) and striles me as being a very likable and modest man, despite his height, fame and physical power.

[snot182]

Steamboat was amazing AGAIN on Raw last night! So impressed.

Batista is back to a big pop and a big main event and Backlash is shaping up nicely, enjoyed RAW last night.

[jakeblue]

Good draft for Jericho, Rey and Punk as they are now free of the confines of the little box everyone outside the top 4 or 5 wrestlers on Raw will now be put in. Bad draft for MVP and Matt Hardy as they will never break the heavily loaded top end of monday nights now.

Hopefully Christian will get supplemented to SD tomorrow.

As for titles, Punk to cash in MITB after Cenas match at Backlash to take the gold over to SD??

[Will Jones]

jakeblue, on Apr 14 2009, 03:01 PM, said:

As for titles, Punk to cash in MITB after Cenas match at Backlash to take the gold over to SD??

I was thinking the exact same thing as it is too obvious for Edge to win the title back so soon with Cena still on Raw. Punk doing it at the PPV will bring something fresh to the MITB briefcase. Also, did you see him looking at Cena with the belt last week on Raw when they had the post WrestleMania 10 Man tag?

I think MVP may restart his feud with Matt on Raw, but I couldn't see Matt or MVP going into the Main Event area yet. Although, MVP might get a rub over the next year seeing as Jericho, Punka nd Rey have left for SD.

[snot182]

Will Jones, on Apr 14 2009, 07:28 PM, said:

jakeblue, on Apr 14 2009, 03:01 PM, said:

As for titles, Punk to cash in MITB after Cenas match at Backlash to take the gold over to SD??

I was thinking the exact same thing as it is too obvious for Edge to win the title back so soon with Cena still on Raw. Punk doing it at the PPV will bring something fresh to the MITB briefcase. Also, did you see him looking at Cena with the belt last week on Raw when they had the post WrestleMania 10 Man tag?

I think MVP may restart his feud with Matt on Raw, but I couldn't see Matt or MVP going into the Main Event area yet. Although, MVP might get a rub over the next year seeing as Jericho, Punka nd Rey have left for SD.

if they do give punk the belt i hope he goes heel with it...
the only thing i thought, that is a lot of title changes in a VERY short space of time.

[yesindeed]

i think there has been way to many belt changes the past few months too

Jake, do you honestly think matt hardy and MVP are main event material?

so far i think they messed up the draft big time, the only way it could have been worse is if Batista moved back to SD and started another fight with edge and taker

look at the US title now, more specifically the Raw mid card, its bloody awful, at-least SD has got that going for them

SD only has 4 proven main eventers now with 2 maybe 3 that could pull it off, whilst raw gets 6 guys who are all former world champs and have been tried ad tested

its like they dont care about SD and have forgotten ECW all together

but the biggest mistake they made the whole night was MIZ

WHY? if you are gonna split them up at-least put the talented one on the bigger show

[jakeblue]

I wouldnt say that Matt and MVP are ready for main event and world title shots now but i do think they had a better chance of progressing before they were moved to Raw.

Id heard that they wanted to load Raw again and thats certainly what theyve done. HBK,HHH,Cena,Orton,Batista, Big Show all at the top of the card compared to Edge, Jeff (maybe) and Taker on the blue brand.

Completely agree with the midcard, SD has in the recent years of the draft been about not just the main event but whats going on beneath it with the likes of Shelton, MVP, the Hardyz etc.

I note that Punk reckons hes going to call someone out at Judgement day rather than use a sneak attack. If he does do this then itll be in his home town so he'll be the face regardless of who he fights. At least if he snuck up on Cena at Backlash he could potentially be a heel.

I think SD will benefit from the Supplemental draft as id hope that the likes of Evan Bourne, Morrison and Christian will all get the nod to move to Friday nights, and if they do then SD will fast become the show to watch in my opinion.

Of course all of this means nothing as people regularly seem to turn up where they want when they want so lets hope that they try to stick to their brands abit more this time out.

Oh and ECW, does anyone actually care about that show anymore, Tommy Dreamer is about the best thing they have and everyone else is either a misfit that they dont have room for elsewhere (finley, Henry etc) or youngsters who are being tested for future moves to the big shows (Bourne, Swagger)

[Will Jones]

The reason SD is being scaled down is because thwe move to MyNetwork is backfiring slightly. The network itself has been downgraded and SD is the only new material show with the rest, or majority of, being re runs.

As Vince gets most advertising income and exposure from Raw, it is rumoured he is making that the number one show with SD being used to elevate talent further. With the rumoured storyline of merging all of the titles by WrestleMania next year, you could see a whole different SD in a year's time.

[jakeblue]

Mixed bag on Raw this week.

The bad - Orton beating up a McMahon again, sorry but ive seen enough of this now and hopefully that will be the end of that. Regal being crowbarred into a new feud with MVP, alas this seems to be the end of MVPs rub with the top of the card for the time being. John Hogan, anything with this gimp just does my head in.

The good - MVP being involved for a second week running with the top talent on the roster, as mentioned above however i think this is the last we will see of this for the time being. The Miz calling out Hogan again and burying him with some quality material about movie scripts, made me smile did that.

[Will Jones]

I think that MVP vs Regal is just a side feud to keep MVP ticking. He is being put into the main event as the WWE finally seem to realise that new faces/heels are needed. The same goes for The Miz.

The same is happening on Smackdown as Morrison going face was quicker than orignially planned according to reports, but he is still being touted as HBK's replacement in ring style wise. Also, with The Undertaker potentially taking a long period off to have surgery on his knees and hip, and the future of Jeff Hardy up in the air, it seems CM Punk is being pushed as a major Face.

[jakeblue]

Looks like Flair may be back with Legacy taking on Evolution........guess 14 months of retirement is better than 12  

[snot182]

he said in loads of interviews recently that he really misses wrestling, lots more than he thought he would and said if Shawn agreed to it he would love to come back but only in a way that didnt completely tarnish what WWE did for him last year.

ive not seen all of RAW yet but after Judgement Day and what i have seen of RAW so far, i think they are doing a pretty good job getting him involved.

His arms looked massive at Judgement day!

[Will Jones]

jakeblue, on May 19 2009, 02:47 PM, said:

Looks like Flair may be back with Legacy taking on Evolution........guess 14 months of retirement is better than 12  

Do you not mean with Evolution taking on Legacy?

As regards Flair returning to wrestling, he has commented that he misses it big time but does not want to become the washed up has been Jericho mentioned in the storyline. If he returns as anything, it could well be as Dave Batista's mentor for the proposed storyline of the two world titles being unified at WrestleMania XXVI.

[jakeblue]

Im sorry but its a nonsense. Flair got a send off like no other last year and the fact that just over a year later hes back fighting the top end of the card is a joke and quite frankly proves that he is exactly like Rourke in the Wrestler and cant let it go.

Flair has not ben a great wrestler for many years and is fondly remembered for recent matches because of how his opponents have carried him to good matches (HBK at Mania is a prime example). The fact that hes accepted and cheered just shows how fickle the WWE audience is and how shallow the talent pool is (actually the pool is deep but hardly anyone is used as a main eventer because the top spots are hogged by the select few).

If there is a match between the two groups then shame on the WWE and shame on Flair and i hope they do a show where everyone takes back the tributes and farewells.

As for the rest of Raw, what the hell are they doing?? The Miz loses all momentum by cutting a terrible promo and then is pointlessly interrupted by Lawler in a nonsensical angle. The travesty that is Santino/Santina continues and now Regal has been dragged into the mess, poor William. Hogan now wants a title shot, god help us all just give the man the belt, bring back Hogan senior and let them spend the next 6 years or so not putting each other over in countouts and DQs.

Oh and poor Kendrick, if only youd tow the line you wouldnt be dragged down to the sad low level comedy acts group.

[chris_mk]

Have just caught up with the Raw from a Monday 1 June and have to say that the Kofi vs MVP match was awesome!