Dr Evil

who are you actually calling moron....the original poster of this thread or anyone who gets autographs?

Crap!!...wait till Mike the Monkey finds outs!

its quite hard to get hold of any stuff from the older shows....i remember looking for large prints for the various crews at Earls Court for future events...i was lucky to pick up an 11x14 prints of the cast members for DS9,Voyager and Enterprise....one or two of the dealers may have some Star Trek posters because of the four guests present!

i thought the whole point of these events was the diversity of the guests....if there are The Bill guests whats the big deal...no one is telling you to buy there autographs...

i heard on the radio this morning that someone upset buzz aldrin and he stopped meeting people?

see there you go again repeating the same old argument over and over again ....don't just lay this at postman...us today it will be transport next time and civil servants the time after....if your mum chooses to work beyond her hours thats her choice....you are clearly sticking around this thread to stir things up..you said what you had to say...but had to come back and start some more,even though i had taken the advice of AJ Jones to let it go...you couldn't.

we if worked to rule which was an option....and if at the end of our duty we had not completed our deliveries we were threatened with being docked the pay for that entire day...even other words,work past our contracted hours for nothing....is that what it should come down to? if your mother chooses to work for nothing thats her choice....why should everyone else do the same,and thats not just postman....before you say it!.....do you believe that everyone in any job should put a couple of hours in for nothing each day/week?

who says i haven't got an armful of qualifications!

No. I don't want your job, so I'm not going to take it and then start pissing and whining about not liking it when I could've saved myself the hassle and got a better one in the first place. If you don't want it, quit and give it to someone who's actually going to do the job. well the offers there in future if you change your mind..... AJ Jones appreciate your comments....total respect to you!

Excuse me? Suburb? I DREAM of suburbs. Where I live my main priority is trying to avoid getting robbed and attacked, and where I lived previously it was all I could do just to avoid getting shot - and I don't do it for a job, I live here. Again, it comes back to, if you don't like it, drop the whining and move along, instead of punishing us for it. And whether you find it insulting or not, it's a fact that if you want a better job you need a better education. It's not an opinion, or an insult, it's a basic fact. You know what? I hate where I live. The council are tearing my house away, knocking it down, and only giving me a quarter of what it will take to buy a new one. Jobs are barely available. My university sucks. Do you know what I'm doing? It doesn't involve whining and hurting others. No, it involves me working my bottom off to get the education I need to get me away from the things that I don't like. so your not interested in a two week job swap then?

perhaps if you changed the record rather than repeating yourself with the same stuff...its clear you don't like people striking,its clear you believe people should be treated badly,its clear you believe people shouldn't have a right to stand up for themselves against bullying managers... People are being treated badly. Us. Just because you're feeling bad doesn't mean that the rest of us deserve to suffer too. You know that you're going around in circles. You feel that you have the right to stand up for yourself by punishing others, yet you don't feel that the ones you are punishing have the right to stand up for themselves when THEY are losing money and facilities too. That'll be £323 gross per week; take off tax and NI and it'll be about £250 - actually probably less because there will also be pension contributions to be deducted. Whether that's more than you earn or not, there are a finite number of people who will do the job for that money; walking the streets in all weathers carrying a heavy bag isn't exactly glamourous. In fact, if it's much more than what you earn, why don't you sign up as a postie? If that's a problem, they could get an education and pick a more glamorous job. They're getting paid far above their skill level - let's face it, who couldn't be a postie? There are people with incredibly skill and worth, eg nurses, who aren't getting anywhere near what they actually deserve. This is just greed. "get an education and pick a more glamorous job"....i find that remark f*****g offensive....just because we are posties you assume we are uneducated....you are now so desperate to offend us...you are starting to talk out of your backside....your idealism stinks of right wing snobbery!....i'm not even going to give you the attention you so clearly want on here anymore! I've a PhD and I'm a university lecturer and I do get paid more than a postal worker, Not as much as I deserve and i don't get many perks but.... However, I do agree that there is an errosion on pensions in the RM (as in most places) but, I don't think this is what the strike is mainly about...Shall we discuss "Spanish Practices". Personally I think that postmen should get a fair wage but then they also need to stop demanding overtime etc for when they are asked to work up to their contracted hours, or when asked to help a busy workmate if they are not etc etc etc. I don't get paid anymore if I step in to give a lecture. by all means a fair wage for a fair days work, but that works BOTH ways. (AND I'm a Union Official ! ) the reason postman get paid to do overtime e.g. covering say another delivery and it get done in their contracted hours is that the majority of postman start earlier than their actual starting time (coming in at 4 instead of 5)...they also work through their meal breaks and sort /deliver faster than they should...the term job and finish....if they finish at 12 on their own delivery with about 2 hours to spare they would then start on their overtime...why wait to 2pm to do it when the important thing is to get the mail out on delivery....Adam Crozier has not once mentioned that this is common practise in nearly every single office in the country...he wants you to believe that we are underworked and making far to much time out of the job. Dr Evil I'm not sure what your argument is. I don't see how you can argue that being a postman is a skilled job. I'm not being elitist, I'm not trying to 'put you down' - I'm simply stating a fact. A lot of inner London posties don't even need a driving licence. Surely you have to compare a postmans salary to the salary of workers with comparative skills. Those might be : - Labourers Waiters Porters Mailroom workers By and large postal workers get paid many times the average salaries of those in the above list. And yet there are many very highly skilled jobs (Nurses for example) who get paid a hell of a lot less. Tell me where I'm wrong here? I'm open to being told that, in fact being a postman is a skilled job, and should attract a high salary... as long as you can provide some evidence for this. I'm open to being 'proved wrong'. Just tell me what I'm missing here. Because (and as I said before, please don't take this personally) at the moment all I can see is a large workforce of unskilled workers leveraging their privileged position to artificially enhance their salary way beyond the true worth of their occupation. There are many walks of life where people don't have that privilege, where unskilled people work for a pittance because they don't have powerful unions to control their salary through threats. You have to understand the position that Royal Mail is in. Their business is struggling - coming apart at the seams. Competition from without is forcing them to make difficult decisions in order to survive. And this is not helping. who said anything about wether it was a skilled job or not...i take offence to the remarks of being told to get an education if i want a more "glamorous" job. If you want a more glamouros job (other than don't read, mods please delete 'glamour') you need to educate yourself for it. Don't do a bog standard job then complain that you're not getting the same wages as people who're doing an incredibly complex one. Never claimed anywhere that posties are idiots, just that their job doesn't require a degree. I'm not desperate to offend you, but it's evident that you're quite happy to harm others. perhaps we should job swap for two weeks....you might then understanding of what it's like then....i'll find you a nice big run down estate....none of that suburbs for you!

i'm not looking for sympathy i never expected that...but some remarks on here have been very offensive and clearly made to badger me,and i won't be falling for that again and ok i was typing fast.....by the way was that "you and your co-workers"...

perhaps if you changed the record rather than repeating yourself with the same stuff...its clear you don't like people striking,its clear you believe people should be treated badly,its clear you believe people shouldn't have a right to stand up for themselves against bullying managers... People are being treated badly. Us. Just because you're feeling bad doesn't mean that the rest of us deserve to suffer too. You know that you're going around in circles. You feel that you have the right to stand up for yourself by punishing others, yet you don't feel that the ones you are punishing have the right to stand up for themselves when THEY are losing money and facilities too. That'll be £323 gross per week; take off tax and NI and it'll be about £250 - actually probably less because there will also be pension contributions to be deducted. Whether that's more than you earn or not, there are a finite number of people who will do the job for that money; walking the streets in all weathers carrying a heavy bag isn't exactly glamourous. In fact, if it's much more than what you earn, why don't you sign up as a postie? If that's a problem, they could get an education and pick a more glamorous job. They're getting paid far above their skill level - let's face it, who couldn't be a postie? There are people with incredibly skill and worth, eg nurses, who aren't getting anywhere near what they actually deserve. This is just greed. "get an education and pick a more glamorous job"....i find that remark f*****g offensive....just because we are posties you assume we are uneducated....you are now so desperate to offend us...you are starting to talk out of your backside....your idealism stinks of right wing snobbery!....i'm not even going to give you the attention you so clearly want on here anymore!

That'll be £323 gross per week; take off tax and NI and it'll be about £250 - actually probably less because there will also be pension contributions to be deducted. Whether that's more than you earn or not, there are a finite number of people who will do the job for that money; walking the streets in all weathers carrying a heavy bag isn't exactly glamourous. In fact, if it's much more than what you earn, why don't you sign up as a postie? Because anyone can be a postie whereas what I do is much more specialised - I teach in a language school and I love my job. Money isn't as important as job satisfaction for me. so you live to work....rather than work to live? i use to think just like you when i was younger....more fool i!

and i have a right to go on strike...thank god for democracy....AJ Jones is the only one here not looking at the whole situiation selfishly! You are also looking at the situation selfishly though. yeah yeah...whatever you say! You were fighting your corner respectiable and maturley until that post. yes...but i've never stood a chance from the beginning to get my point across...when the same people keep repeating themselves over and over again!....its just going around in circles.

your just quoting Adam Crozier from one of the tabloids....in fact most of the people get most of their facts from the media....and we believe everything they tell us!

yeah yeah...whatever you say! How immature. I see now why you think this is okay. perhaps if you changed the record rather than repeating yourself with the same stuff...its clear you don't like people striking,its clear you believe people should be treated badly,its clear you believe people shouldn't have a right to stand up for themselves against bullying managers... If you trust what the newspapers say, then I think you may be being a tad naive. The media will always glorify, inflate and downright tell porkies if it means selling newsrags. However, this "debate" is just going around in circles. I can see both sides of the coin and feel that the wrong person is being blamed for the actions of all at Royal Mail. I know he is the only one on here admitting to being an employee of Royal Mail, but only Dr Evil 100% knows what it is like for the Royal Mail. I empathise with all people effected by these strikes, but I personally felt that Dr Evil was getting a bit of a raw deal. I hope that you all get your expected mail, and that Dr Evil gets what he thinks is fair in a world that is far from it. I feel my views have been aired, and thus will not be debating the postal strike again as it has become a tad stressful. Have a peaceful evening. Wil respect for the voice of reason!

yeah yeah...whatever you say!

i hope one day you don't have to stand up for yourself...and have to make sacrifices for your cause!

and i have a right to go on strike...thank god for democracy....AJ Jones is the only one here not looking at the whole situiation selfishly!

"sigh's".....of course you would still work....."walks off shaking his head"

lol, no I'm not facist, but I do believe that if you arent happy with the job you're doing or the pay and benefits you're receiving, you should find something else. It's how most of the world works! You're not being forced to stay there. i have thought about it quite alot...leaving that is...paying into the pension scheme that was one of the factors for sticking with it.

did he also tell you alot of postman start sometimes an hour before they are suppose to,did he tell you they work through their meal breaks,use their cars...just to get the job done quickly and the mail delivered early...we stop doing that most of us would be out till 2 in the afternoon...but come in extra early,work through your meal break...you finish early...where is the harm in that? your not a facist by any chance are you?

but as you said if people were desparate enough for work...whats stopping bosses from taking advantage of that....and i don't earn a decent wage....i have to account for every pound i earn....i guess we will just have to agree to dissagree!

"desperate for jobs and would do anything to work"....but thats going backwards not forward....do we really want a society where people are so desparate they would work for pittance....sounds very Victorian!