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Dealers stalls where were they? On the web site it says 250 to 300 stalls, never in a million years, The centre would nvere get that many in ever. So another lie.

At last the truth will always come out, No goodie bags No cars that were promised Anyone could get the gold ticket as it was not policed Crap and virtually no food The list goes on, at least I witnessed it first hand did not just get it from a third party. What is your excuse SM? How bad have you NOT organised this what was supposed to the best party ever? Also where were all of the stalls on your web site you say there are 250 to 300 deler stalls where were they? You could never get that number in there ever, another lie?

Well what can I say, where were all of the stars? I was there contrary to who the organisers said I was! Where was the food? How crap was that? What was it that we paid for? Of course the usual suspects will come back and say how great it was, but lets have a few home truths and cut through the crap.

Right so basically they have now admitted to registering the names for no more than stupidity! Is that right? I am sure that if the other parties were that bothered they would have taken the matter further, but they have not, I was just trying to make a point here, There was no reason what so ever to buy the names, or to renew them which they have been this year, is there any reason what so ever now to keep the names? What are you going to use them for? They are the kind of questions the open minded people should be asking. But again I am sure that it will not happen as the pom pom raisers as you put it will rally around. But that is lfe, but at least the truth has come out. But the sarcsm in the reply was not needed, but again I could see that coming, as SM needed time to put there answer together.

OK father coop I am waiting to see there answer, as I know you can check in to htese things, basically cyber sqatting if proved is illegal and if i were the other people i would take the mattere further, the fact the SM purchased these names in 2003 shows that there pettyness has been going on for some time. So wat you are saying is that anything that is on the register can be untrue, if that is the case, why does the regiter hold the information for everyone who has bought a domain nae? They are a government body. I am looking forward to the reply.

There can be no other reason than to be malicious, or is that you are so childish and petty you though that you would do it for a joke? If that is the case what are you going to use them for?

You say that SM are not on here, if that is the case, why are they logged in at the bottom of the board? Simple questions why did you register there names?

No I am not doubting that they have purchased the names, As it tells you very clearly in the register, it does not lie. As for where I found the original information, I have answered this, it was copied and pasted into an earlier posting and I thought that I would check. I am asking them why they did it? As they say and state very clearly they have no vendetta, that is rubbish if this is the truth and they can not deny it, as they own the names for nothing more than trying to stop another party using them which is cyber squatting and illegal.

all you have to do is go to www.netnames.com and put in the organisers name and it will come back with SM's details how cear can that be? It is a legal register that it uses, If you think that some one would buy a domain name and register it to some one else, you are mad! Would you do this? The fact that some one has purchased craig parkers name is irrelevant, as you are a fan and fans do that, does that mean that SM are fans of the other organiser?

I have asked a simple question I am waiting for Showmasters to answer it! SM Did you buy the domain names of the organisers or not? It is very easy to clarify this point, I am not bryan cooney, I am some one who can not stand seeing in justice, I have looked at the wolf boards and can not see anywhere that states anyone should boycott christopher judge, i would be interested in seeing this quote that relates to there admin

Just one thing this is relevant, as SM have stated that they have nothing against wolf or anyone to do with them, then why have they registered these names, I have just found out also that 'Andrew' who has registered the domain names is inactual fact 'Mark', why would 'Mark' who uses the name 'Mark' then go off and regsiter the domain names under Andrew? Is this not misleading? Is there something to hide? Perhaps they should not have used there own address to register the names, then perhaps they would not have been caught out. If this is not petty, or has some kind of underlying meaning then why did they do it?

I just can not believe that you can not see for yourselves what the register says. It clearly details the person who has registered the name, You need only to go to the register and check for yourself, the domain register does not lie, To say that eh eh ehhhh has gone out and bought the name and then registered it in showmasters details is ridiculous, the names as you can see were registered in 2003 and showmasters is just cyber squatting or may be they have some other use for the names in the future. What it does show even over a year ago showmasters were clearly acting in a petty manner, it is so clear.

On another relalted note, I see that you say there is no vendetta against eh eh ehhhh or anyone to do with them, can you then tell me why they have posted the following on the message board? ----- "To make a point look at this situation: Would you think that is ok to go and buy for instance your own personal name on the internet, for most people this would not be a problem, unless of course another person of the same name had registered it first, then that would be ok. How would you feel and how petty do you think it is that some one else namely the other organiser has gone out and maliciously purchased your name on the internet under .com and .co.uk would this not point to something that could be construed as malicious and petty? Or #### right stupid? This is just one of many things that have been going on behind the scenes for quite some time! Again it is for you personally to make your mind up what has gone here, but we are very clear." ----- I took the time to actually look at the registrar for web names and they are being truthful, as the surname of the person who has registered the other events organisers name has the same surname as mark who co runs the showmasters events, also the address is the same as showmasters, I also checked the other name that was mentioned in the showmasters posting and again showmasters has registered that persons name also on .co.uk and .com I have posted the relevant information below Domain Name: bryancooney.com Whois Record: Registrar: TUCOWS, INC. Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net Registrant: Macannex Ltd 2 Waterside Peartree Bridge Milton Keynes, Bucks MK6 3DG GB Domain name: BRYANCOONEY.COM Administrative Contact: Woollard, Andrew andy.woollard@macannex.co.uk 2 Waterside Peartree Bridge Milton Keynes, Bucks MK6 3DG GB +441908394036 Technical Contact: Woollard, Andrew andy.woollard@macannex.co.uk 2 Waterside Peartree Bridge Milton Keynes, Bucks MK6 3DG GB +441908394036 Registration Service Provider: UK Reg, domains@fasthosts.co.uk +44 1452 541252 +44 1452 538485 (fax) http://www.ukreg.com/ Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC. Record last updated on 19-May-2004. Record expires on 16-Aug-2005. Record created on 16-Aug-2003. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.LIVEDNS.CO.UK NS2.LIVEDNS.CO.UK Domain status: ACTIVE No wSM what do you have to say about that? What possible reason would you have to to buy there names on the internet? I look forward to your answer

This all seems to be getting out of hand, the bottom line here is that Chritopher Judge will no longer be attending the wolf event show, regardless of the fact that the date was changed, i would imagine that hw would have told about this, common sense would say this. I have read all of the posts and can only see one outcome, if christopher jusge or anyone else for that matter is due to go to an event in the uk and then another event announces him, then there is something wrong. After reading the wolf boards and all of the postings on here, it is not hard to put 2 and 2 together, the points I see are as follows, 1, Christopher Judge is announced to be at one event in the uk. 2, He is seen by hundreds of fans saying that he will be at that event 3, He is advertised as being at that event. 4, Then another event then announces him. Who is in the wrong here? 1, The original event who has many people agreeing that christopher judge agreed to attend the original event in person 2, The organiser of the orignal event has worked with him many times and considered him for what i can see as a friend as well as guest of the event, took his word that that he would be there. 3, The guest is then approached to attend another event in the uk the exact same weekend as the original event when the agent knows full well that he is due to attend another event the same weekend, is this ethical? 4, The organiser of the second event is fully aware that the guest is announced for the first event and still decides to go ahead and put an offer in to the guest, is that ethical? For me personally looking at it from all sides, all I can see is that the agent was wrong to approach the guest and make an offer which must have come from the 2 nd organiser, other wise there would be no offer would there? The 2nd organiser is completely wrong to have accepted the orignal offer if nothing else common decency. So in all an only see that showmasters is in the wrong, but I am sure many people who are loyal to showmasters will not agree with me, as they cannot see the bigger picture

This all seems to be becoming a complete joke, whether it is considered professional or not, why don't Showmasters come clean and tell us fans what has and is going on? That would then be a sign of an organiser with the fans best interests in mind. To have even considered taking an actor on to there guest list when they had already been announced for another event does not to me seem to be a the actions of some one with the fans in mind only some one who is interested in hurting the other event, or am i wrong? If I am I apologise, but i do not think that i am. Sometimes it should not be down to money, but professionalism and can not see this christopher judge and showmasters scenario panning out to be good for them. Can you? By the way i am sure the question will arise about this being my first posting as it has done for others on here, but i have attended previous showmasters events and now feel the time is right to come in and take part in discussions, it is great that everyone thinks that showmasters is whiter than white and that there events are the greatest and so on, but this does seem to be tainting them in a way that is totally distasteful, but we will see and i will be keeping a closer eye on things from now on and taking a more active part in the forums.