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yes it does - big advert on the back page. i've posted the 3 new guests in the forum.

Mark Good on you and thanks for taking up the offer - it is very much appreciated. However I have to go to New York for the weekend with work and won't be able to make Saturday - it is a little soon. Are you based in Milton Keynes - do you ever venture away - perhaps we could meet up in London or somewhere on your travels - or perhaps over the phone. An informal open meeting in a cafe wasn't quite what I had in mind but this is certainly better than nothing at all - so thanks for putting up the time. Kris

LOL! No problem, I probably wasn't clear enough to start with. Guess it just shows how easy is to misunderstand the written word Maybe we should all take note of that one comment, it could just stop the war of words!!!! fair enough

with respect no thanks - I'd rather do this face to face and get feedback from SM too - almost like a brainstorming session. If it ends up as a document we may as well submit this entire forum with all of the threads. Fair enough. It'd probably be a lot of work although (and apologies if I'm preaching to the converted here) I often find it's better to go into a meeting with at least an outline document for discussion so that no points are missed, rather than just turn up and see what happens. I'm sure you're aware of this too but having thought through some possible solutions in advance also helps rather than going in and saying "here's the problems what will you do about it?". Can save a lot of time. I know you're joking (I hope) but there's too much repetition, conflict and general abuse to make using the forum as a basis a good idea. The issues really need to be distilled and summarised into something coherent (and fairly brief). ok that makes sense - i thought you meant a document INSTEAD of a meeting...I'm all for collating a document in preparation for a meeting...otherwise valuable time can be wasted debating what is to be discussed. apologies for misunderstanding you.

do you ever have anything constructive to say - you are exactly the type of person i am referring to in my previous post. You follow CQB around like some form of unwanted pet - slapping him on back when he makes a good comment - what is your purpose?

and why is that? do "kids" not have valid opinions? do adults automatically have the ability to form sound arguements. i've read your posts and you have indeed made some valid points. unfortunately you have also been emotive and subjective at times which is never helpful during a debate. i'll point out that most of the people you have referred to as "kids" are infact over 18 and some have children of their own... but that is beside the point, EVERYONE on this forum has the right to argue or agree with you irrespective of their age. thanks for your comments. i think you have been clear and articulate in every post you have written. i hope you do not feel the need to keep repeating yourself as you could appear to be beligerant rather than constructive and i'm sure this is not what you're aiming for. no i think that it is very clear that adults do not automatically have the ability to form sound arguments but I would also have to debate how much the under 18 age-group would bring to a forum such as this. I think that you would have to agree with me that it is indeed frustrating trying to convey a point on here when some people obviously do not read your comments properly and are so blinkered they fail to see any other direction apart from their own...as you can see from my previous posts on other threads I have tried to see the opinion of other people and have been flexible with my own opinions - to my mind this is where the best ideas comes from. So you'll have to excuse my emotiveness and subjection to some posts - it's frustration more than anything else. If most of the people on here are indeed over 18 then perhaps some of them should act their age...simply saying what i say is wrong is not an argument, not does it construct any form of debate...if you notice I have always tried to reply to any form of constructive disagreement that has been aimed at me. I want to come across as a help rather than a hindrance and like I have said before I am prepared to put my money where my mouth is by giving up time and money to present my views to SM. i do appreciate what you are try to say. kris

with respect no thanks - I'd rather do this face to face and get feedback from SM too - almost like a brainstorming session. If it ends up as a document we may as well submit this entire forum with all of the threads.

again i have to say I'm not getting into a war of words here - some people i feel want me to. where is SM based - Birmingham is a fairly central location for a forum such as this as many people will be travelling from all over the country - I'm sure we could get a convention room at a hotel for this if it went ahead - again I'd be more than happy to share the costs.

but it's so difficult to separate the 2 with vetting first...if SM think that this is a good idea - it's over to them - i can't get into an ageist debate - i'm too old. i have to go now and get on with some work. so addictive. kris

it's not great practice to tell people to shut up or use profanity in your posts.

and i think that this post says just about everything i need to know about you. really going now. And try not to forget it either! threatening manner too - you must be quite scary. Glad I'm going.

I'm sorry but you aren't going to like this...an under 18 isn't going to bring the business or life experience to this type of forum. I think plenty of adolescent thoughts have already been posted on here. God I sound like an old man - but i really think this needs to be an adult forum. Please don't take this the wrong way.

Not necessarily the case. You really need to know what worked just as much as what didn't when doing an analysis of this kind. I had a very enjoyable time although I wasn't there on Sunday or Monday. Yet I did see things which I feel could be improved upon and issues which I think could do with addressing for the future - especially from having followed all the comments over the last few days. I don't think there was anything drastically wrong with the systems in place, just that they maybe couldn't cope with the pressure they were put under on Sunday, but there are some simple ideas which would seriously help future events run even better. sure why not - invite 10 people to a forum - not wanting to be controversial and not wanting to offend anyone though but let's keep the age over 18 please.

and i think that this post says just about everything i need to know about you. really going now.