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Olympia? surprised at that. Is the event gonna be scaled back then from this year?
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Some new stuff I got signed:
Another one for my Aliens Anthology Bluray Boxset
Signed by:
* William Hope (Lt. Gorman)
Evilspeak - Bluray
Signed by:
* Eric Weston (Director)
* Clint Howard (Stanley Coopersmith)
Sleepaway Camp - Bluray
Signed by:
* Felissa Rose (Angela)
* Jonathan Tiersten (Ricky)
* Ed French (FX)
* Justin Cruse (Doc editor)
Did you get these from Dark Delacacies? i got Crystal Lake Memories signed from them
Correct. I also got Crystal Lake Memories and Never Sleep Again from them. I've just received the I Spit On Your Grave bluray.
Totally missed out on the Halloween boxset (although it was significantly more expensive than Amazon), but got my pre-order in for the Gremlins anniversary bluray.
I could'nt justify the Halloween price either, i'll stick with my Amazon.us pre-order. can't wait for that boxset. Did you see the specs they released the other day mate? some good stuff on it but no theatrical cuts of Zombie's films.
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I have no interest at all in watching Quarantine. Believe it or not I have still not watched Zombie's Halloweens. I enjoyed house of a 1000 corpses but (I know I'm in minority here) didn't enjoy Devil's rejects that much. Lord of Salem I enjoyed until the last act, so I'm still very much on the fence about Zombie as a film maker.
Got to say i'm not a big fan of his, he seems very one-note but when i get my complete Halloween blu ray collection i'll rewatch his 2 films in the franchise and see if i've changed my mind. HO1000c's was ok but i'm not a fan of The Devils Rejects either, its pretty bad taste when you try and paint rapists and spree killers as anti-heroes and cops as the bad guys.
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If there are chairs, i'm up for it
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Some new stuff I got signed:
Another one for my Aliens Anthology Bluray Boxset
Signed by:
* William Hope (Lt. Gorman)
Evilspeak - Bluray
Signed by:
* Eric Weston (Director)
* Clint Howard (Stanley Coopersmith)
Sleepaway Camp - Bluray
Signed by:
* Felissa Rose (Angela)
* Jonathan Tiersten (Ricky)
* Ed French (FX)
* Justin Cruse (Doc editor)
Did you get these from Dark Delacacies? i got Crystal Lake Memories signed from them
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"Halloween" without a doubt though i love "Rec".
also i absolutely love "Halloween 3" it gets hate sometims because theres no Michael Myers but it is a 10/10 classic for me in its own right.
smcelhenny do you know what happened to all the other threads in the horror section?
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John Carpenter would be great and he does do conventions. Also any of the ones mentioned in this list would be great. Some Hammer guets also.
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There was over 27.976 in summer's queue alone.
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Just had an idea that might help future shows. Summer Glau was one of the busiest guests last weekend but could only physically get through so many autos in a day. So what if in future Showmasters sent out to guests like Summer (known busy guests) 500/1000 stills in the week or two before an event that she could pre sign. That sounds impersonal but what if an hour a day was set aside like a photo shoot where people would queue and the guest could give out the still and say a quick thank you for coming or a handshake, it would be no more impersonal or longer than a photo shoot. Now i know the majority of us on this forum would rather meet at the desk at get a personalisation but we still could. but if the price of the pre signed was £5 cheaper many would still pay for that and i bet most of the walkins would too, and its clearly btter than nothing and would allow showmasters to get
More people to see the guest.
more people to get an auto
from a buisness standpoint it would certainly allow for more autos to be sold.
As long as it would be done after say 2pm it could work. Less people would complain about missing guests too. id say about an extra 50% autos could be sold. I missed out on Carrie Fisher and would have certainly taken this option rather than miss out.
They did something a little like this many years ago at the Milton Keynes show when James Marsters was there. Not sure exactly which show but it was either 2007 or 2008. The queues were massive, VTs off the scale but there was a crew member at the end of the queue selling pre-signed 10x8s. Only time I'm aware it's happened as I got one as I was really late getting there.
Not sure how I feel about it really. Surely the whole point is to go and meet the guest but I took one as there was no chance of me meeting him that day. But it's not a lot different to buying from a dealer. Very impersonal and I'd rather meet the guest to know it's genuine and have that experience. It's not entirely just about the autograph for me otherwise I'd just pre-order everything I wanted.
But with your idea what if the only time someone could join the queue to meet them was during the period that this "hand out" thing was going on? Wouldn't really be fair would it? It's often towards the end of the day when queues go open and it's easier for anyone to actually go and meet the guest. Maybe something to think about though.
My thoughts are pretty much exclusively for the busiest guests who have queues all day and that people miss, there are usually 3/4 of these guests each show but probably more this year with all the people. It would also be like a photo shoot very fast but at least you would see the guest not givin out by a crew member.
Get that but often hard to judge who is going to have the biggest queues all day so hard to know who to do it for. I don't think anyone would have thought Summer would be quite so busy for example and there's been plenty of "big" guests in the past who you've just been able to walk up to later in the day. David Tennant, Gillian Anderson, Karl Urban, Matt Smith even are a few that spring to mind. All busy initially but much quieter later in the day.
Karen Gillan at her first LFCC appearance was busy all day but went open queue for about 10mins at the end. But then at her next appearance at Milton Keynes, I just walked up later in the day without needing a VT.
Not killing the idea but it's almost impossible to guess who will be or won't be so busy that it would justify it.
You may be right but these events are getting exponentionally bigger year on year. If people buy these pre paid online then there would still be those sales and most people don't stay till the end. At the end of the day all that would be left would a few unsigned stills but i gaurentee showmasters could havee shifted 100s of these pre signed on saturday, its just another revenue stream for showmasters and another way for fans to get an auto and a glimpse of the guest they want to see. Some vt were double of what actually got to meet the guest on saturday.
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Just had an idea that might help future shows. Summer Glau was one of the busiest guests last weekend but could only physically get through so many autos in a day. So what if in future Showmasters sent out to guests like Summer (known busy guests) 500/1000 stills in the week or two before an event that she could pre sign. That sounds impersonal but what if an hour a day was set aside like a photo shoot where people would queue and the guest could give out the still and say a quick thank you for coming or a handshake, it would be no more impersonal or longer than a photo shoot. Now i know the majority of us on this forum would rather meet at the desk at get a personalisation but we still could. but if the price of the pre signed was £5 cheaper many would still pay for that and i bet most of the walkins would too, and its clearly btter than nothing and would allow showmasters to get
More people to see the guest.
more people to get an auto
from a buisness standpoint it would certainly allow for more autos to be sold.
As long as it would be done after say 2pm it could work. Less people would complain about missing guests too. id say about an extra 50% autos could be sold. I missed out on Carrie Fisher and would have certainly taken this option rather than miss out.
They did something a little like this many years ago at the Milton Keynes show when James Marsters was there. Not sure exactly which show but it was either 2007 or 2008. The queues were massive, VTs off the scale but there was a crew member at the end of the queue selling pre-signed 10x8s. Only time I'm aware it's happened as I got one as I was really late getting there.
Not sure how I feel about it really. Surely the whole point is to go and meet the guest but I took one as there was no chance of me meeting him that day. But it's not a lot different to buying from a dealer. Very impersonal and I'd rather meet the guest to know it's genuine and have that experience. It's not entirely just about the autograph for me otherwise I'd just pre-order everything I wanted.
But with your idea what if the only time someone could join the queue to meet them was during the period that this "hand out" thing was going on? Wouldn't really be fair would it? It's often towards the end of the day when queues go open and it's easier for anyone to actually go and meet the guest. Maybe something to think about though.
My thoughts are pretty much exclusively for the busiest guests who have queues all day and that people miss, there are usually 3/4 of these guests each show but probably more this year with all the people. It would also be like a photo shoot very fast but at least you would see the guest not givin out by a crew member.
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Just had an idea that might help future shows. Summer Glau was one of the busiest guests last weekend but could only physically get through so many autos in a day. So what if in future Showmasters sent out to guests like Summer (known busy guests) 500/1000 stills in the week or two before an event that she could pre sign. That sounds impersonal but what if an hour a day was set aside like a photo shoot where people would queue and the guest could give out the still and say a quick thank you for coming or a handshake, it would be no more impersonal or longer than a photo shoot. Now i know the majority of us on this forum would rather meet at the desk at get a personalisation but we still could. but if the price of the pre signed was £5 cheaper many would still pay for that and i bet most of the walkins would too, and its clearly btter than nothing and would allow showmasters to get
More people to see the guest.
more people to get an auto
from a buisness standpoint it would certainly allow for more autos to be sold.
As long as it would be done after say 2pm it could work. Less people would complain about missing guests too. id say about an extra 50% autos could be sold. I missed out on Carrie Fisher and would have certainly taken this option rather than miss out.
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fair dos pal, i missed that bit. We all should get along though, i bet we would if we we're all in the pub(as long as we all agree that Star Trek is better than Star Wars
do you think Showmasters want less demand at autograph lines? healthy demand means more cons in future, just better organisation of those queues is whats needed and will no doubt happen.. and is there really any need for the "epic fail" quote? thats IS the sort of thing this forum can do without.
Sorry but your solution will not create less demand at the autograph lines - epic failIncreasing costs as a way of crowd control is both lazy and unethical. It would be a shot in the foot and the final nail for some. Do people not keep up with current affairs? This way of thinking is outmoded and is failing across the globe. SM don't want to increase cost, the fans don't want increased cost so hey, how about not increasing the costs?
Of course people pay only what they can afford, not sure that is the issue here. Bigger boat, more people, same price but still more profit, everyone is happy. Jeez, it's not rocket science!
In fairness when someone is being a smarty pants and saying "jeez, it's not rocket science" then they deserve a bit of gentle banter
)Haha - look I don't want to fall out with people I don't know, I'm not affiliated with showmasters other than as a fee paying customer. Everytime I put an opinion on the forum I get nothing but stick. I'm not ramming it down anyone's neck - but the usual backlash always seem determined to hammer down opinions on here.
I truly believe that SM should just get rid of the forum as a huge percentage of users are bullies and quite frankly appear to be jobless, feckless and rude!
Can't say i had much grief on here to be honest and i come on here all times of day because i my job allows me to. There may be a bit of heatedneess after a con but in general these forums are great, nothing like hearing an announcement of a great guest.
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do you think Showmasters want less demand at autograph lines? healthy demand means more cons in future, just better organisation of those queues is whats needed and will no doubt happen.. and is there really any need for the "epic fail" quote? thats IS the sort of thing this forum can do without.
Sorry but your solution will not create less demand at the autograph lines - epic failIncreasing costs as a way of crowd control is both lazy and unethical. It would be a shot in the foot and the final nail for some. Do people not keep up with current affairs? This way of thinking is outmoded and is failing across the globe. SM don't want to increase cost, the fans don't want increased cost so hey, how about not increasing the costs?
Of course people pay only what they can afford, not sure that is the issue here. Bigger boat, more people, same price but still more profit, everyone is happy. Jeez, it's not rocket science!
In fairness when someone is being a smarty pants and saying "jeez, it's not rocket science" then they deserve a bit of gentle banter
fair dos pal, i missed that bit. We all should get along though, i bet we would if we we're all in the pub(as long as we all agree that Star Trek is better than Star Wars
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Being a big horror fan my guests are never really that expensive anyway
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The thread is starting to derail a little on to prices in general.
My points have never been that a business can't plan to make a healthy profit, nor that prices should be subsidised. As costs go up so should prices.
My point has simply been that the people you meet at sci fi events around tend to be lovely people - although there is one on this thread I don't think I'd get on with.
You don't "win" the event by leaving with more stuff than anyone else and photos I got signed last weekend wouldn't make me happy without being able to tell my friends a little bit of an anecdote about how I got them. Good anecdotes do not start with " My credit card had a higher limit than everyone else and so XXXX was contractually obliged to smile at me and write their name."
Even the disappointments of cons make good stories and end with "I hope I get chance to do it next time."
The natural cycle of capitalism is that something starts small and idealistic, gets big, compromises its ideals, then eventually loses the plot, forgets customer service and finally goes into decline.
The best thing to do right now is find a way to make next years show work for all.
The wrong thing to do is to decide it's ok to exclude people based on income.
I'm hoping for the best.
Craig
I think you are right on most of that. Clearly the name of the game for any buisness is to make money but lets say for instance Mark Hamill showed up next year and his auto/photo price was £80 then a guarenteed package for either auto pr photo should only be say £5/£10 dearer at most i would have thought. and lets say if he can only reasonably get through 600 autos or 1000 photos then about 40% of that should only be available to these guarenteed packages. That way thir are other ways for people to get his auto/photo providing they do the smart thing and get there early. If 100% of those autos/photos are "guarenteed" and are say £100 or more then clearly the whole event will become elitist and big guests only available to the wealthier.
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Anyone who thinks there's free speech on the internet is fooling themselves. This forum is run by Showmasters, they can do whatever they like with it. Delete posts, edit posts, ban people, all without having to give any explanation. Most of the time they at least say why things have been deleted. You may not like it, and plenty of people don't, and I even have friends who have been banned from here for what I'd call legitimate grievances from previous events but that's just the way it is.
By signing up here you agree to the T&Cs. Whether anyone reads them or not doesn't make a difference. Ignorance is no defence. Play by the rules, whether you agree to them or not or face the consequences.
I agree it can be frustrating when things get deleted, especially if they're making a reasonable point but there's still a lot of legitimate issues, problems and questions being left on here and what I'd class as negative discussion. I can be as critical as anyone and I feel I have the right to be having attended these events since 2003 but I know what I can and can't say on here.
Ultimately SM don't have to listen to anyone. It's good business practice for a company to listen to it's customers and adapt accordingly and I'm yet to be assured that all the issues raised have been noted but there's no requirement that they come on here and respond to every point. It's entirely up to them. If that approach makes someone decide not to attend any further events then that's up to them but this is not a place where anything goes.
No one is asking for anything goes, clearly swearing and insults should be removed and repeated offenders banned and tbf i see very little of that here so the mods do thier job well but just because sm don't allow some posts to stay and some voices to be heard does not mean they should'nt.
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Sorry but your solution will not create less demand at the autograph lines - epic failIncreasing costs as a way of crowd control is both lazy and unethical. It would be a shot in the foot and the final nail for some. Do people not keep up with current affairs? This way of thinking is outmoded and is failing across the globe. SM don't want to increase cost, the fans don't want increased cost so hey, how about not increasing the costs?
Of course people pay only what they can afford, not sure that is the issue here. Bigger boat, more people, same price but still more profit, everyone is happy. Jeez, it's not rocket science!
do you think Showmasters want less demand at autograph lines? healthy demand means more cons in future, just better organisation of those queues is whats needed and will no doubt happen.. and is there really any need for the "epic fail" quote? thats IS the sort of thing this forum can do without.
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Can you please view MY opinion as based on my experience and my £££ please? Hey, if SM could lower all the prices so I could get all the photos and autographs I wanted then great! And if the dealers could lower their prices so I could get more merchandise too, that would be fantastic.
My opinion isn't based on being a moderator. It's as someone who has attended these events for 11 years. SM will keep prices where they can for as long as possible, but sometimes things have to change.
But hey I'm just a mod who isn't allowed an opinion right
You can hold whatever opinion you want but every opinion you seem to hold is the opposite of the overwhlming majority on this forum but coincidentily all those opinions favour showmasters. and when those opposing opinions are hid from view it is hard to think we are being heard. Of all the problems last weekend do you not notice that i am not criticising sm, big cons beget big problems and i have said multiple times that i give the benifit of the doubt that sm will get it right in the future. Plus i have always stated that i enjoy the events. but you argue that censoring the views of sm customers is right, you state that raising prices and creating new tiers of tickets is right, you continuingly state that having concerns and criticisms is "making trouble" that repeatedly asking for clarification to questions that go unanwsered is "making trouble" and grounds for post removal and even account banning. How can any free thinking person think that is a corect strategy for any company to take. I have never, not once swore or insulted anyone on these forums and yet the other day you refeered to me as "peope like yourself causing trouble" just because i thought customers deserved to have their concerns left in view. Is anything i have said to you that bad reeally? i think no yet you are continuously sly and dismissive to me in your anwsers. I can tell that you think i am "making trouble" when all i am doing is ssupporting what 100s of thousands af men and women died fighting to give us- a free country with right of reply and yet that will no doubt end with my account being suspended because sm don't want to hear it.
Why do people need to bring up the "I have a right because people died for it". It seriously takes things too far, this is not some Nazi forum or some pro-political forum. This is SM forum, they can do what they want in regards to censorship you make it sound like they have no freedom of speech here, yet there are complaints unbanned on the forum's still, sure we may not like all of how they censor but if you don't like it either make your own forum or accept SM forum. I may be going off topic but it seriously grinds me when people use the soldier excuse in an argument. Rant Over
I seriously cannot fathom why someone could write a post like this. All i am stating is that we the customers should have right of reply, something we as British citizens are guarenteed by law and yet you (a customer) are slating me for pointing that out. Baffalling. " Turkeys voting for Christmas" comes to mind.
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Can you please view MY opinion as based on my experience and my £££ please? Hey, if SM could lower all the prices so I could get all the photos and autographs I wanted then great! And if the dealers could lower their prices so I could get more merchandise too, that would be fantastic.
My opinion isn't based on being a moderator. It's as someone who has attended these events for 11 years. SM will keep prices where they can for as long as possible, but sometimes things have to change.
But hey I'm just a mod who isn't allowed an opinion right
You can hold whatever opinion you want but every opinion you seem to hold is the opposite of the overwhlming majority on this forum but coincidentily all those opinions favour showmasters. and when those opposing opinions are hid from view it is hard to think we are being heard. Of all the problems last weekend do you not notice that i am not criticising sm, big cons beget big problems and i have said multiple times that i give the benifit of the doubt that sm will get it right in the future. Plus i have always stated that i enjoy the events. but you argue that censoring the views of sm customers is right, you state that raising prices and creating new tiers of tickets is right, you continuingly state that having concerns and criticisms is "making trouble" that repeatedly asking for clarification to questions that go unanwsered is "making trouble" and grounds for post removal and even account banning. How can any free thinking person think that is a corect strategy for any company to take. I have never, not once swore or insulted anyone on these forums and yet the other day you refeered to me as "peope like yourself causing trouble" just because i thought customers deserved to have their concerns left in view. Is anything i have said to you that bad reeally? i think no yet you are continuously sly and dismissive to me in your anwsers. I can tell that you think i am "making trouble" when all i am doing is ssupporting what 100s of thousands af men and women died fighting to give us- a free country with right of reply and yet that will no doubt end with my account being suspended because sm don't want to hear it.
Seriously, when things end up being referred back to war and stuff like that, don't you think they might be getting a LITTLE out of hand? Let's get a bit of perspective on all this please.
In the end, it's an Internet message board. Plenty of stuff is still on this forum that if we were such 'Nazis' or whatever else we get called would have been removed instantly. Whether you agree with the other removals is irrelevant, but please don't make us out to be the most evil people on the planet. Like I said - it's an Internet message board and not worth all this hassle in the end.
When did i refer to mods as "the most evil people on the planet"? when did i refer to mods as "nazi's"? refering to free speech and the right of reply is not refering to "war" as you put it but refering to why we have free speech and the right of reply but of course you stating these things allows you not to answer the questions i asked you.
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Think i will get a gold pass next time.
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I saw it and a women in Victorian type gear won with a rather good redition of "Bring me to life" think a few bottled it leaving few contestants which is a shame because i quite eenjoyed it (and the rest)
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Can you please view MY opinion as based on my experience and my £££ please? Hey, if SM could lower all the prices so I could get all the photos and autographs I wanted then great! And if the dealers could lower their prices so I could get more merchandise too, that would be fantastic.
My opinion isn't based on being a moderator. It's as someone who has attended these events for 11 years. SM will keep prices where they can for as long as possible, but sometimes things have to change.
But hey I'm just a mod who isn't allowed an opinion right
You can hold whatever opinion you want but every opinion you seem to hold is the opposite of the overwhlming majority on this forum but coincidentily all those opinions favour showmasters. and when those opposing opinions are hid from view it is hard to think we are being heard. Of all the problems last weekend do you not notice that i am not criticising sm, big cons beget big problems and i have said multiple times that i give the benifit of the doubt that sm will get it right in the future. Plus i have always stated that i enjoy the events. but you argue that censoring the views of sm customers is right, you state that raising prices and creating new tiers of tickets is right, you continuingly state that having concerns and criticisms is "making trouble" that repeatedly asking for clarification to questions that go unanwsered is "making trouble" and grounds for post removal and even account banning. How can any free thinking person think that is a corect strategy for any company to take. I have never, not once swore or insulted anyone on these forums and yet the other day you refeered to me as "peope like yourself causing trouble" just because i thought customers deserved to have their concerns left in view. Is anything i have said to you that bad reeally? i think no yet you are continuously sly and dismissive to me in your anwsers. I can tell that you think i am "making trouble" when all i am doing is ssupporting what 100s of thousands af men and women died fighting to give us- a free country with right of reply and yet that will no doubt end with my account being suspended because sm don't want to hear it.
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Its such a shame to see that 95% of posters on here don't think its right to increase prices but the moderator is agreeing with the 5% who do. Think we know there will be price increases next year. Also its roughly the same percentages who think removing posts from view is wrong but the mods agree with the minority who think its alright again.
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i could never trust ebay autographs, knowing my luck id get a spiderman comic signed by Fran Lee
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Taking the London Film and Comic Con forward in 2015 and beyond
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I'm a little confused over the diamond passes. lets take Carrie Fisher from this year as an example. She was £60 photo but DP are for more than that, so if say DP are £100/£150 will youi cap how many you sell or if you sell so many that Carrie could only physically do there will be no single photo shoots on sale and no autos on the day? so in effect maybe the only way to meet an A guest might be to buy a DP? thanks in advance.