photo with milo-adrian (where are they)

[dufresne]

Let's not feel too sorry for these guys here. I got ticket no. 360 so lets say I was the last to get a ticket (though I know for certain I wasn't) at £30 x 360 = £10,800 they made in little over an hour. That's like nearly £5,400 they made each for standing there for an hour. For that sort of money I kind of expect a smile and a polite hello. Guess that's too much to ask.

 

Moan, bitch, grumble ! Why wasn't everything tailered exactly to me ?????

 

I doubt very much that AP&MV will see too much of your alleged 10.8k - it will help SMs pay the bills, some will go to agents, managers etc. It's far from THAT straight forward !!

[pinkangel]

I just think that while i love the option of having a photo shoot, they sell too many tickets for them? Milo and Adrian were down for a half hour photoshoot and yet did you see the amount of people there? I know they probably think that people will be disappointed if they didnt get one, but surely thats just how it goes, same with what number VT you get, its luck at the end of the day! I dont ever expect much so if i get anymore then thats just a bonus! When i got to my turn they had just started to say we couldnt put our arms round them, but as soon as i went to them they straight away put there arms round me, you could tell they were really tired but i still got hellos and how are you? so i was happy really! Just hope it comes out ok?

[swan]

Overall, my experience for Sunday was fantastic, but my experience of the photoshop with Milo and Adrian was dreadful.

 

Queued up for 20 minutes to hand bag in, and then queued up for one hour for the photo.

 

£30 for about 2 seconds... I was gutted.

 

The photographer told me to keep my hands by my side as I was rushed in, I didn't even get to look at Adrian, and Milo didn't look too happy.

 

Then I was out!

 

£30 for 2 seconds! I opted for the photo shoot instead of the autos, and was let down. God only knows what the photo will look like.

 

The photoshoot was obviously oversold, making it an awful experience for the last half of the guests rushed through. I bought my ticket at 10am, they should have stopped selling them when they reached a certain number.

 

It wasn't fair on the lads, it was a nightmare for photographer, and it ended up being a miserable experience for a good majority of the paying guests.

Edited September 3, 2007 by swan

[Fry]

I was one of the first few that went in thanks to my gold pass and the guys were fine. Milo and Adrian were fine and a bit chatty. Milo put his arm round my shoulder first and I followed to him and Adrian.

The photographer was a bit shouty mainly because of the queue wasnt ready for people just to walk in.

 

Prior to the photoshoot the photographer came out and said to us "Is that the queue?" and someone explained to him how the queue went and how big it was and he just sighed and shook his head. I dont think he was too happy with the amount of ticktets were sold

[Psychosis]

Overall, my experience for Sunday was fantastic, but my experience of the photoshop with Milo and Adrian was dreadful.

 

Queued up for 20 minutes to hand bag in, and then queued up for one hour for the photo.

 

£30 for about 2 seconds... I was gutted.

 

The photographer told me to keep my hands by my side as I was rushed in, I didn't even get to look at Adrian, and Milo didn't look too happy.

 

Then I was out!

 

£30 for 2 seconds! I opted for the photo shoot instead of the autos, and was let down. God only knows what the photo will look like.

 

The photoshoot was obviously oversold, making it an awful experience for the last half of the guests rushed through. I bought my ticket at 10am, they should have stopped selling them when they reached a certain number.

 

It wasn't fair on the lads, it was a nightmare for photographer, and it ended up being a miserable experience for a good majority of the paying guests.

 

To be fair, if you had gone for an autograph unless you were early the experience would've been very similar.

[DavidB]

I got all the Heroes photo shoots and I'm at least happy with the Hayden and Jack ones because the PHOTOS look great. That's all I paid for - not time with them in a photo booth, but an actual photo.

 

I know things were rushed for the Milo/Adrian one but as long as my photo comes out ok then I don't care because that's what I paid for.

 

I guess we'll see.

[fray101]

It's unrealiastic to expect the photo session to be an opportunity to have a conversation (no matter how brief) with the guests - you're paying for a photo with them, that's it.

 

Of course it's frustrating not to get those extra few seconds to at least try and get into a semi decent pose, but did anybody seriously expect anything less than a huge chaos and a conveyor belt of attendees moving through the line? No, the photo shoot could not possibly described as a pleasant experience, but it was was pretty much what I expected to be. However I appreciate that people who've never been to an event like this before, or who maybe have never bothered with photo shoots until this weekend, may have been rather thrown by the whole experience.

 

But that said, yep, there really should be some sort of limit on the number of photo tickets sold - for both the guests and the attendees sakes.

Edited September 3, 2007 by fray101

[peeka85]

I don't expect a massive conversation with the guests Im having a photo with and both M and A said hello to me. The photographer took 2 photos and it was all quite quick. But I can imagine M and A got quite tired towards the end - they're only human after all. I think the lesson is - don't sell as many tickets. It was a ridiculously long queue.

[The Big Man]

Let's not feel too sorry for these guys here. I got ticket no. 360 so lets say I was the last to get a ticket (though I know for certain I wasn't) at £30 x 360 = £10,800 they made in little over an hour. That's like nearly £5,400 they made each for standing there for an hour. For that sort of money I kind of expect a smile and a polite hello. Guess that's too much to ask.

 

Moan, bitch, grumble ! Why wasn't everything tailered exactly to me ?????

 

I doubt very much that AP&MV will see too much of your alleged 10.8k - it will help SMs pay the bills, some will go to agents, managers etc. It's far from THAT straight forward !!

 

 

Admitedly I don't know exactly how all the money works out but I was hardly saying 'why wasn't everything tailored to me' you complete jerk. What I actually said was 'I kind of expect a smile and a polite hello.' You may be used to people walking all over you and treating you like crap but I'm not.

[Trun0-Jay]

Let's not feel too sorry for these guys here. I got ticket no. 360 so lets say I was the last to get a ticket (though I know for certain I wasn't) at £30 x 360 = £10,800 they made in little over an hour. That's like nearly £5,400 they made each for standing there for an hour. For that sort of money I kind of expect a smile and a polite hello. Guess that's too much to ask.

 

Moan, bitch, grumble ! Why wasn't everything tailered exactly to me ?????

 

I doubt very much that AP&MV will see too much of your alleged 10.8k - it will help SMs pay the bills, some will go to agents, managers etc. It's far from THAT straight forward !!

I was under the impression they get paid a separate sum before the shoot anyway

[sweetj_nomad]

sounds like i had a better experience than a few people. firslty with jack coleman the photographer had a play around with his camera, though i did feel slightly gay as we i had my arm round him still at this point haha! he remembered me as well which was nice.

 

hayden was lovely and put her arm round me...i almost ended up with my hand on her...err...lovely little... well you know but not quite!

 

milo said "hey" and asked how i was doing and i asked him back then i complimented adrian on his suit and he turned his head to talk to me but the photographer rushed us to pose so he said to me after bout his suit. all in all the guests were very nice and cheery with me. all of them put arms around me too. must be cos im so small and 'cute' as my girlfriend says...grr

[TommyT]

I just think that while i love the option of having a photo shoot, they sell too many tickets for them? Milo and Adrian were down for a half hour photoshoot and yet did you see the amount of people there? I know they probably think that people will be disappointed if they didnt get one, but surely thats just how it goes, same with what number VT you get, its luck at the end of the day! I dont ever expect much so if i get anymore then thats just a bonus! When i got to my turn they had just started to say we couldnt put our arms round them, but as soon as i went to them they straight away put there arms round me, you could tell they were really tired but i still got hellos and how are you? so i was happy really! Just hope it comes out ok?

Welcome to "damned if you do and damned if you don't" time.

I'm commenting on this at great remove, and with my entire knowledge of this event being based on postings here, but a few things seem to be worth postulating (and any references to "you" are general, and not aimed specifically at "pinkangel"):

* whilst you now have people complaining that too many photoshoot tickets were sold, you can be sure as eggs is eggs that if they'd sold 100 less photoshoot tickets, there would be at least 20 people here complaining that there weren't enough photoshoot tickets available

* sorry Indy, I disagree. Offering options of over-the-table photos probably isn't going to reduce the demand for photoshoot tickets that much. I'd guess 10% max, and I bet that there were at least 10% more people who wanted a photoshoot ticket but couldn't buy one anyway, so they would probably still end up selling the same number of tickets. And as for allowing over the table shots, even if they only take 10 seconds (and I bet the average would be higher), then if 500 people want a such a shot that's an extra 83 minutes.There's a lot of other people who could get signatures in 83 minutes rather than people in front of them posing for the over-the-table shot. So that's 83 more minutes of signing wasted, and a corresponding increase in complaints from people who had a high number in the queue and therefore couldn't get seen because of all the "reach-over the table" shots.

* it's a shame people found the photographer a bit gruff; from my own experience of dealing with the queueing public, I reckon that for everybody that is well-organised and perhaps a bit sensitive, there is somebody who is completely in a dream and does not appreciate the urgency of the situation. Some people need "firm direction" in order for things to proceed at an efficient pace, based on the demand. Some people will find this rude; others won't. Some people will find this necessary, others won't. (There is not necessarily a correlation between the two groups and the two behaviours). It's about finding the happy medium to keep the event moving efficiently. Doesn't explain everybody's gripe with the photoshoot, but worth bearing in mind.

*It's a shame that the guests might have looked unhappy at times, but you have to bear in mind that this event came at the end of an arduous several days for them; they've gone from country to country in different timezones, and been dragged from place to place for all sorts of media opportunities and the occasional fan one, and they must be tired - look at all the TV and radio they've done in the last week (some of it quite early - and even the stuff that doesn't seem that early, you need to be there sometime before for TV at least), plus presumably loads of print media interviews. Sure, it's not the greatest thing on their part not to be perma-smiling, but try to understand that they are human too. (And obviously SM have very little control over this - if you want to blame somebody I suspect that NBC who put their whole tour together are the biggest culprits)

* it's a simple case of demand exceeding supply. I'm sure SM would have love to have had them both days, but they couldn't. I don't think anybody would have wanted SM to say"oh no, we can't satisfy all our customers with just having them for one day so don't send them at all." So they had a situation where they had what they knew would be hugely popular guests, in some cases added very late, and they had to find a way of satisfying as many people as possible - what would be the demand for autos? what would be the demand for photos? In cases like this, it's always going to be a trade-off, and there are always bound to be some people unhappy with the result, but please try not to take it personally - unless you are hugely paranoid, you can't honestly believe that SM set out to disappoint you specifically, and realise that if they had split the photoshoots and signing times differently, there would have been other people instead of you who would have been disappointed. In the end, it's against their interests in growing the business to p*ss off existing customers anyway, so it's hardly deliberate, but you can't please all of the people all of the time, especially when demand so exceeds supply.

* Moving the photoshoot to earlier in the day might not have been an option; if all the earlier times were taken with photoshoots for other guests with people having been told when those other shoots would be, and possibly having made travel etc arrangements around that, then can you imagine the complaints then? Numerous people would be posting things like they had a 2pm photoshoot for guest X and they had accordingly booked a ticket on a 3.45pm train home, and then SM changed their photoshoot to 4pm, just to slot in a Heroes one - there would be uproar, and rightly so. Sure in some cases you have to change photoshoot times for unforeseen circumstances, but switching them around just to suit one set of customers over another would not be fair, would it? (Additionally, it may well have been the agent' request to stick the photoshoot on as late as possible in the day - we just don't know.)

* The whole "picture identification if not picked up at the show" probably may need some refining, and the idea of posting copies on the websiteis a start, but taking a polaroid of each pose would be pricey, and taking a separate digital image, presumably with identifier of some description would also increase the time taken. It might be an idea for the photographer (or an assistant) to tell people what image number they are on the camera's flashcard, which they can write down on the piece of paper along with their physical description - it doesn't need to be exact, just close enough so that it means SM only have to look at a a few photos around that number on the original flashcard to find the person. Since it doesn't have to be exact, you could get a staff member at the head of the queue to tell people their number, and then he could check with the photographer every 20 or so to make sure they weren't getting out of sync (since sometimes the photographer will take one shot, and sometimes he may need to take an extra). Heck, even if the pieces of paper for writing your description were numbered and either handed out in the queue or as you came away,SM would at least have an idea how far through the photoshoot you were.

I'm sure that mistakes were made,and I'm sure that SM would like to improve things, but

[fray101]

* Moving the photoshoot to earlier in the day might not have been an option; if all the earlier times were taken with photoshoots for other guests with people having been told when those other shoots would be, and possibly having made travel etc arrangements around that, then can you imagine the complaints then? Numerous people would be posting things like they had a 2pm photoshoot for guest X and they had accordingly booked a ticket on a 3.45pm train home, and then SM changed their photoshoot to 4pm, just to slot in a Heroes one - there would be uproar, and rightly so. Sure in some cases you have to change photoshoot times for unforeseen circumstances, but switching them around just to suit one set of customers over another would not be fair, would it? (Additionally, it may well have been the agent' request to stick the photoshoot on as late as possible in the day - we just don't know.)

 

It wouldn't have helped at all - which shoot would they move back? Hayden's, which was incredibly popular? Dom's? You still have to get through the same amount of photos in the same time slot - just would have meant people would have been waiting for different photos as opposed to the Milo/Adrian ones.

[Howie]

Photoshoots are just more trouble than they are worth,we managed for years wihout them and could manage again,what ever you do people will moan moan maon you can't win!do away with the shoots and go back to over the desk pictures with!

[DavidB]

Photoshoots are just more trouble than they are worth,we managed for years wihout them and could manage again,what ever you do people will moan moan maon you can't win!do away with the shoots and go back to over the desk pictures with!

 

As has been stated many many times, the shoots are not there as replacements for the over-the-desk pictures.

 

No-one would've got photos with Milo and/or Adrian even if there weren't photo shoots. Same with the other guests.

 

So really, if you're looking at it from that angle, there's not much point in getting rid of them.

[JackAubrey]

I was chatting with William Mapother, he said because he was doing a photoshoot, he wasn't allowed to do over the desk photos, this was when he had open que,

 

just putting that out there,

 

JA

[rhin_ariel]

I can understand that some people have had a bad experience, but i don't think it's right to complain so much. I was just happy to know that I had the opportunity to get the picture.

 

I was one of the last to go in for the photo (just after 4pm), and I still got a big grin from Milo, Adrian said hi and put his arm round me. All together, some of us (even at the back) didn't have that bad an experience.

[Lambourne]

I was chatting with William Mapother, he said because he was doing a photoshoot, he wasn't allowed to do over the desk photos, this was when he had open que,

 

just putting that out there,

 

JA

 

I wondered why it was fine to take a picture of him posed on his own but not with you. So much for someone before the event saying that wasn't the case.

[DavidB]

It's exactly the case, but if a guest decides they don't want to do posed photos as they'd like to do more photo shoots then that's their decision.

 

From the FAQ:

 

Does this mean I can’t take a picture of the guest during the autograph session?

 

No, there will be no restriction on taking posed photos at their autograph table because of the photo shoots. The photo shoot is purely an added extra for those that would like it.

 

There is of course the chance that due to time constraints or the guests wishes that posed photos will be stopped at their autograph table.

 

So it's not intended to be a replacement but what I said above can happen.

[mousybrown]

i had my photos with all the heroes guests and to be honest for hayden and adrien/milo they shouldve put a smaller limit on the photo tickets.

jack colman didnt have a long logn queue like they had and he was very smiley and plesent.

for the other two i was right at the back and i felt so bad for hayden tsanding in them shoes all the time tyring to look happy.

the guys seemed just shattered, maybe a photoshoot in the morning for them would of suited better, milo said hi and asked how i was but it was so rushed i couldnt really have time to answer and i barely saw adrian, god knows what the pic turned out like,

but i think they did the best they could tbh.

[Lambourne]

But I mean JackAubrey said that William said he wasn't allowed to do posed photos over the desk not that he didn't want to. I wasn't there so I don't know what exactly was said. Also the person in front of me in the que asked for a posed photo and William said it was fine until his crew member said he couldn't.

Edited September 3, 2007 by Lambourne

[Gandalfia]

I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed it!!!!!

 

I'm just going to stare at my Milo one from Friday until I get it. What if I look vile in it?! I CAN'T HANDLE THE PRESSURE!!

 

They will look gorgeous and I'll look like a goblin

[DavidB]

But I mean JackAubrey said that William said he wasn't allowed to do posed photos over the desk not that he didn't want to. I wasn't there so I don't know what exactly was said. Also the person in front of me in the que asked for a posed photo and William said it was fine until his crew member said he couldn't.

 

Well the guests aren't exactly going to say 'sorry I don't want to, I'm having a photo shoot later so please buy that' are they? They don't want to come across like that at all - hence why we have NO POSED PHOTOS signs etc.

 

I can't comment on exactly what was said with anyone, but I still stand by what I've said about the photo sessions - they're intended to be something additional, not a replacement.

[steevofromglasgow]

Hi

 

I can confirm that my son and I were at the back of the Adrian/Milo queue (15 from the back because a crew member counted as I was going in) and the two guys really looked gutted and depressed.

I was behind the camera and witnessed it - a total waste of £30.

 

They were fantastic during the signings and the Hayden, Dominic and Jack photoshoots were terrific.

 

I'm happy the photoshoots are over in a few seconds as it gives more time for chasing the autos and keeps the queue moving.

 

I just feel they gave out too many photo-op passes for Hayden and the Patrelli's

 

Steve

[madmonster*]

I was chatting with William Mapother, he said because he was doing a photoshoot, he wasn't allowed to do over the desk photos, this was when he had open que,

 

just putting that out there,

 

JA

 

I wondered why it was fine to take a picture of him posed on his own but not with you. So much for someone before the event saying that wasn't the case.

 

 

Rght I "may" be able to answer this. I was with Robert Englund on Saturday at LFACC and with him in Glasgow the weekend before and we were running on the "no posed photos at the desk rule". This was imposed by Robert himself as he felt that if he was doing a paid for photo shoot later in the day, it would be unfair on those who had paid if others also got posed photos with him at the desk without paying. He also understood, however, that people liked to get a photo of the guest signing their photo to proove it's authenticity. Robert and William were sat next to each on Saturday at LFACC and so presumably discussed this together and both went the same way. William was a "new" signer, Robert a seasoned pro so it is understandable that William would look to Robert for clues as to how to react.

 

Yes before you say I saw Robert relax the rules.. yes he did, for children!!! Anyone who asked with a child got a posed photo for the kiddie. Anyone else was welcome to take a photo whilst he was signing and if they waited he looked up and posed afterwards as well.

 

 

I was also the guest assistant with Adrian on Sunday. We had lots of notices up saying no photos please. This was nothing to do with the photoshoot... merely a request that was made by some of the actors. Sitting there all day in a torrent of flash bulbs is very hard on someone. The Heroes guests were very tired even before they started. In discussion with Adrian at the beginning of the day, he agreed that I could overlook most people taking photos from the queue but if they were very snap happy and the flash was irritating I would step in a stop it. Obviously it was very dark in Earls Court and without a flash I'd guess no photos would have come out. Adrian was also aware that people liked to have a photo to say they'd met the guest and understood completely, it was for this reason that the two guys agreed to do so many photo shoots when all they really wanted to do at that stage was go back to their hotel and have a rest. I can't speak for the other Heroes guests, ()believe it not I never even got to meet Hayden! but that's the view from the Adrian queue.

 

The guys were very tired and I think we should instead agree on how nice they were to show up on what should have been their day off to sight see in London, to keep Hayden and Jack company and to meet the fans.