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20 hours ago, D-C-A said:

It remains a testament for us fans on how much digging we do to find what someone worked on based solely on passing remarks or information, when all we’ve had are names for example.

indeed, you yourself are testament to that

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14 hours ago, Mfahey79 said:

Well, we're getting a massive guest this Friday. As ever massive is suggestive to the individual.

But I'm hoping Nathan Fillion or Sarah Michelle Geller

Once again i am hoping for what happened the last time we get a big one with a few smaller ones to go with as whilst "The Idiots Lantern" isn't the best episode by any means Getting a series 2 actor is a nice land for me with that set growing in names, but i would prefer a large number of smaller names for a wider chance, but given they've given 2 days notice my guess is they're gearing up for the headliner, makes me want for the days when the Olympia is fully open again and we can hold a ton more guests.

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4 hours ago, Mfahey79 said:

indeed, you yourself are testament to that

I do my best but i do it purely for fans who may be after names, even then i get anyone (Minus Clarke, Langley, Gaimen) whose involved, some people tend to be picky, but i always value the contribution and it often means better experiences.

even then i do have to cross check any listing online some of the sources have come up wrong before, even with Paul Kirby as i've said all i had was a name and 20 IMDB profiles to hope their had been a mistake and he'd been double listed, which was a gambled that paid off, and if i recall the info from the DVDs then its a more solid source of info, but the BBC isn't 100% credible in that department

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8 hours ago, D-C-A said:

I do my best but i do it purely for fans who may be after names, even then i get anyone (Minus Clarke, Langley, Gaimen) whose involved, some people tend to be picky, but i always value the contribution and it often means better experiences.

even then i do have to cross check any listing online some of the sources have come up wrong before, even with Paul Kirby as i've said all i had was a name and 20 IMDB profiles to hope their had been a mistake and he'd been double listed, which was a gambled that paid off, and if i recall the info from the DVDs then its a more solid source of info, but the BBC isn't 100% credible in that department

Yes, Gaimen well and truly nuking his career and reputation which was not on my bingo card coming into 2025.

I thought I'd managed to research all the actors who played cybermen, so I could see who was possible on my posters, there are many from the 60s and 70s I have their names and episodes, but thats the only information available. And then last year Showmasters unearthed another actor who was in Earthshock. 

 

 

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15 hours ago, Mfahey79 said:

Yes, Gaimen well and truly nuking his career and reputation which was not on my bingo card coming into 2025.

I thought I'd managed to research all the actors who played cybermen, so I could see who was possible on my posters, there are many from the 60s and 70s I have their names and episodes, but thats the only information available. And then last year Showmasters unearthed another actor who was in Earthshock. 

 

 

It’s not just about unearthing guests during some research for a completely different thing entirely I even found proof from the late 1980s that disproves any notion that Anthony Coburn wrote the opening episode of “an Unearthly Child” it’s on the same page that lists Elizabeth White as having been a Cave Child funnily enough, but old stuff does have its privileges, and of course it does lead to a few unorthodox signatures you can obtain

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5 hours ago, D-C-A said:

It’s not just about unearthing guests during some research for a completely different thing entirely I even found proof from the late 1980s that disproves any notion that Anthony Coburn wrote the opening episode of “an Unearthly Child” it’s on the same page that lists Elizabeth White as having been a Cave Child funnily enough, but old stuff does have its privileges, and of course it does lead to a few unorthodox signatures you can obtain

Exactly, I was research to see how many actors had worn the cyber costumes and by proxy the actors names.

It was the same logic when hit hard with covid that led me to research how many actors had played Ewoks in Return of the Jedi. It's 76 by the way

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5 hours ago, Mfahey79 said:

Exactly, I was research to see how many actors had worn the cyber costumes and by proxy the actors names.

It was the same logic when hit hard with covid that led me to research how many actors had played Ewoks in Return of the Jedi. It's 76 by the way

76? That means either there’s actually 152 of them or 38

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4 hours ago, Mfahey79 said:

Im Confused, doesnt take much I know

 

76 is half of 152 so im saying their were 152 ewok actors but because they were little people thats only 76 full persons

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1 hour ago, Mfahey79 said:

Well, at least i can add Brendan Wayne to my list of meets after tonight

I did check both of the announcements and whilst my friends are excited for Perlman neither are for this list.

i thought I found something but it was just island of Doctor Moreau which less said the better

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Okay so just seen Phil Fletcher has cancelled and if you’re a moron like me you panicked and thought it was Phil Baxter because both are Called Phil and had to check.

so yes Phil Baxter who was in “Joy to the world” is still due to attend

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On 2/6/2025 at 11:01 AM, Mfahey79 said:

Yes, Gaimen well and truly nuking his career and reputation which was not on my bingo card coming into 2025.

Missed this comment but it remains a case of he's not been proven guilty but at the same time theirs the insider information that we don't know be it from a police investigation or possibly a witness on a set has given testimony hence why "Good Omens" got the chop, but innocent until proven guilty.

to me in a way its like John Alford who i probably best know as Firefighter Billy Ray from the middle 5 years of "Londons Burning" its awkward watching the episodes he's in at the moment on grounds that he could have committed the same crimes but on minors, again innocent until proven guilty but you do get that be cautious feeling in your mind.

going back to what i've said before about actors like Clarke and Langley, the latter saw a conviction and that totalled his career in a way that no one would dare touch him, as for Clarke i do see a continuous amount of people who say "He was never proven guilty" but the number says to me a lot, even on stage I've not seen any actor speak out in support of him, even at winter 2023 Camille Coduri mentioned Mickey but not Noel (If memory serves) meanwhile David Tennant who has ended careers from being targeted by people (A sentence to me which remains funny) for speaking about equality and serious issues hasn't commented on the matter, now this can be interpreted as them not wanting to burn bridges, but personally i see it as they have nothing to say in his defence.

I was amazed but understanding that Michael Sheen agreed to do anything "Good Omens" related at winter 2024 especially as the controversy had just broken the news and it would make sense to distance early, but i understand that the fans who can see that Gaiman only adapted the series from the novel he and Terry Pratchett created, and the fans are obviously victims of the fallout, but I've yet to encounter a situation where an actor may still sign something inspite of a more serious issue that may be related to a franchise, its why as a personal rule i wont get Janet Fielding on "The Two Doctors" because her involvement is tainted and poisoned by a BBC radio DJ who is not to be named here but we all know who that monster was.

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Just now, D-C-A said:

Missed this comment but it remains a case of he's not been proven guilty but at the same time theirs the insider information that we don't know be it from a police investigation or possibly a witness on a set has given testimony hence why "Good Omens" got the chop, but innocent until proven guilty.

to me in a way its like John Alford who i probably best know as Firefighter Billy Ray from the middle 5 years of "Londons Burning" its awkward watching the episodes he's in at the moment on grounds that he could have committed the same crimes but on minors, again innocent until proven guilty but you do get that be cautious feeling in your mind.

going back to what i've said before about actors like Clarke and Langley, the latter saw a conviction and that totalled his career in a way that no one would dare touch him, as for Clarke i do see a continuous amount of people who say "He was never proven guilty" but the number says to me a lot, even on stage I've not seen any actor speak out in support of him, even at winter 2023 Camille Coduri mentioned Mickey but not Noel (If memory serves) meanwhile David Tennant who has ended careers from being targeted by people (A sentence to me which remains funny) for speaking about equality and serious issues hasn't commented on the matter, now this can be interpreted as them not wanting to burn bridges, but personally i see it as they have nothing to say in his defence.

I was amazed but understanding that Michael Sheen agreed to do anything "Good Omens" related at winter 2024 especially as the controversy had just broken the news and it would make sense to distance early, but i understand that the fans who can see that Gaiman only adapted the series from the novel he and Terry Pratchett created, and the fans are obviously victims of the fallout, but I've yet to encounter a situation where an actor may still sign something inspite of a more serious issue that may be related to a franchise, its why as a personal rule i wont get Janet Fielding on "The Two Doctors" because her involvement is tainted and poisoned by a BBC radio DJ who is not to be named here but we all know who that monster was.

Actually adding on again, as a coworker pointed out (Who helps manage smaller events) boycotting a guest would take a near unanimous response from the clientele of an event, so if Noel Clarke was booked (God Forbid) people would be up in arms no doubt but their would still be people who would want to get him for either Doctor who or Top boy, makes me wonder if Ashley Walters only attended Spring 2022 because he had been booked to attend and must have already taken the money.

i've only ever seen one event a single time drop not just a guest but a panel, which was an this show who despite the large guest base of attendees being LGBTQ or an ally of some description, the company decided to hold a panel, promoting a Harry Potter Production, and the backlash was immense to the point that whilst there had been a massive post and constant resharring by the event on social media the cancellation was as quiet as they come, with a single typed out story post announcing the cancellation so no one was to expect the panel or the guests, at which point people came out of the woodwork's and began saying they need to stop pandering to the majority, one rubbish comment saying he'd booked solely for the panel (At those prices no chance) but its the only time i've ever seen such a movement.

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Noel Clarke, not only hasnt been found guilty, the criminal chargeswere dropped, he has also gone on the offensive and is actively suing for false allegations and the evidence was fabricated.

This is not me defending him, but it brings a different angle to the story.

Like Kevin Spacey, a convention company will chance their arm on booking him. Which given one of the accusations was made by a crew member at an event, is wholly negligent if they do book him

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12 hours ago, D-C-A said:

Okay so just seen Phil Fletcher has cancelled and if you’re a moron like me you panicked and thought it was Phil Baxter because both are Called Phil and had to check.

so yes Phil Baxter who was in “Joy to the world” is still due to attend

I had to look again to make sure which one had cancelled as they have similar names

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It reminds me of when the allegations surrounding Joss Whedon broke, and Anthony Head came out and said he was heart broken to read what his co-workers went through and that he didn't see it. He wonders how on earth did he not know what was going on or did he miss anything

It could be that David, didn't see or hear anything on set, so doesn't want to comment or speculate

 

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I think with signing Good Omens items, you can probably get a dual of Michael and David Tennant in character, rather than a show poster, and avoided the association.

It is harder with his other show Sandman, where I've read some tone deaf comments, that it shouldn't be cancelled as there is so much more material to use.

But that is why it should be cancelled as they are solely Gaiman's work and continuing will not only put money in his pocket but say the tv company don't care about the victims just profit

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7 hours ago, D-C-A said:

Actually adding on again, as a coworker pointed out (Who helps manage smaller events) boycotting a guest would take a near unanimous response from the clientele of an event, so if Noel Clarke was booked (God Forbid) people would be up in arms no doubt but their would still be people who would want to get him for either Doctor who or Top boy, makes me wonder if Ashley Walters only attended Spring 2022 because he had been booked to attend and must have already taken the money.

Did Ashley have any Top Boy images on his desk or any with him and Noel?  I never noticed as I think you can guess what I got him signed in, rather than the series box set.

 

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23 hours ago, Mfahey79 said:

Noel Clarke, not only hasnt been found guilty, the criminal chargeswere dropped, he has also gone on the offensive and is actively suing for false allegations and the evidence was fabricated.

This is not me defending him, but it brings a different angle to the story.

Like Kevin Spacey, a convention company will chance their arm on booking him. Which given one of the accusations was made by a crew member at an event, is wholly negligent if they do book him

I know Fantom dare not touch using Clarke, and even then as tends to happen in most of the cases to which he stands accused their is no paper trail which can definitively confirm or absolve his part in anything.

Spacey being booked from what I remember was extremely controversial, and I can’t remember if that went ahead or not.

but my thoughts on Clarke are innocent until proven guilty but at the same time 20 is an extremely high number to try and deny that many accusations of wrong doing, so it is at the very least safe to not book him for an event, because giving him the benefit of the doubt is one thing, but feeding him a large audience to possibly allow another situation to occur is another entirely.

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23 hours ago, Mfahey79 said:

I had to look again to make sure which one had cancelled as they have similar names

Yeah that was a oh god moment, but it’s not our boy, just another boy and his dog

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23 hours ago, Mfahey79 said:

It reminds me of when the allegations surrounding Joss Whedon broke, and Anthony Head came out and said he was heart broken to read what his co-workers went through and that he didn't see it. He wonders how on earth did he not know what was going on or did he miss anything

It could be that David, didn't see or hear anything on set, so doesn't want to comment or speculate

 

End of the day how someone behaves towards you and how they behave towards someone else are 2 entirely different things, I react positively to most people if I’m not over stimulated or feeling threatened, but theirs one or two people I will brush off and give a cold shoulder.

and besides Anthony Head is male and would therefore be less likely to be on the receiving end of abuse of that nature, and sad to say a lot of stories are only being dredged up nowadays because the environment is open for them to do so, back then you said anything that was it career ruined.

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23 hours ago, Mfahey79 said:

I think with signing Good Omens items, you can probably get a dual of Michael and David Tennant in character, rather than a show poster, and avoided the association.

It is harder with his other show Sandman, where I've read some tone deaf comments, that it shouldn't be cancelled as there is so much more material to use.

But that is why it should be cancelled as they are solely Gaiman's work and continuing will not only put money in his pocket but say the tv company don't care about the victims just profit

To me the sandman comments highlight something that walking the line with is downright impossible, separating the art from the artist, we’ve obviously mentioned Rowling on here a healthy number of times and how awful a person she is, but people still buy the merch and meet the guests in-spite of it, usually either claiming that they separate art from the artist or to spite those who stand against her (side note I saw people say they were only buying Hogwarts legacy to spite the woke agenda who were boycotting, the game still bombed commercially and received no award nominations, which in turn had the right say it was because of woke agenda, funny that).

but with “Good Omens” half the money has to go to Terry Pratchetts estate not just Gaimen so that argument can be made there, but the sandman is wholly his creation and he would see profits there, which he would benefit from and could be used for continued issues.

company’s always seem to value profit, going back to the potter stuff, my thoughts on the new series is because that way JK would have young actors who’d dare not speak against her otherwise risk their big break, as the series as it stands has its three faces (amongst countless others) standing against her and being openly abrasive to her words.

it actually reminds me of a story I remember hearing floating about when I discovered the controversy that is Stephen Collins, that when everything came out about him the studio which owned the show 7th heaven planned to bring the show back and he was due to be involved, but everyone else in the cast balked at the idea and it went no further, says a lot really.

unfortunately you do get people who will act like political views shouldn’t get you in trouble, like when a Star Wars actress was fired because of some particularly nasty words and views on certain topics and people acted like it was okay for her to say this, when in reality maybe the brand doesn’t want association with such things, and with Doctor who with 61 years and going there is sadly going to be one or two unsavoury individuals who will have caused trouble, said something or done something that makes them undesirable to us, and they will get removed or their works stopped, only for people to act like it’s only the fans missing out when more atrocious situations are occurring that can be contributed as a direct result of their fame or position.

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23 hours ago, Mfahey79 said:

Did Ashley have any Top Boy images on his desk or any with him and Noel?  I never noticed as I think you can guess what I got him signed in, rather than the series box set.

 

I can’t remember truth be told, at that time I can’t imagine he would have, Walters did go out and publicly distance himself from Clarke as the two had been seen as best friends prior to the revelations, but post he chose to distance so I can’t imagine he would be too thrilled to have to sign duel photos of him and someone he is now publicly distanced from.

Doctor who I can imagine was okay for him as Clarke wasn’t in his episode and hadn’t been on the show for 3 years, along with having the good common sense to understand Clarke wasn’t one of the original faces with the show being prior to him and a continuing legacy long after him 

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