stavrosbel Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 ive got to ask.... you're saying that the olympia wont have enough room for the con, yet you think a hotel will? are there many hotels with halls the size of the ones at olympia? From what Jason has said, it's not just about the room. There are other events on at Olympia that weekend and the venue is concerned that these other events will be 'overwhelmed' by LFCCW. They have also said on Facebook that the Hotel can offer as much space as was planned for London. ok, so ive got to ask... if there are other events the same weekend then why book that weekend in the first place :S surely the people who run/own the olympia knew how big SM's cons are getting and that the event would need a lot of room. i also dont understnad how another event will be "overwhelmed." If people are going for the con then surely thats what they'll be there for, not to have a nose through other events. either way, im still out. its to do with access , in the past we have used the venue and sometimes there has been other events in the same structure as its so large , after London summer we are gaining a lot of interest and now the venues thoughts are that we will need to use queue people around the building and other events are happing at the same time so this is not going to work for them and us at the same time , summer has shown we are getting much bigger and we need to take that into consideration more as we move on so i do understand there thought but it has given us a few headaches . But last summer nevermind this one showed that you were getting too big for normal capacity when you had Stan Lee over. Such an eventuality should have been anticipated and prepared for long before now. The "X event has shown we are getting much bigger" excuse only works so many times so be careful you don't overdo it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmorris2504 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Excellent! Just 15 mins on the train from me!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirGeeksalot Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 My old stomping ground from my uni days! I always used to say they should have a con there! :-) - G 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlosreddevil Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Well that makes the decision easy for me now. London is do-able, Brighton just a step too far. Shame, looked a good line-up so far, oh well. Olympia's excuse sounds flimsy at best, certainly makes me nervous about LFCC Summer 16! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiskel Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Personally, I think a lot of good could come from this over the next few years. I'm quite happy to have the venue itself suggest a bit more thought needs to go into the organisation of entry, exits and public space around the cons. Plus, Brighton is a pretty cool place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinthewookie Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Takes just over 3hrs on train from reading and costs at least £35 so definitely out for me Shame I wanted to do my zombie schoolgirl for George A Romero! If you change at Gatwick it takes just over 2. That's the route I used to use for Reading festival. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Fooku Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 ive got to ask.... you're saying that the olympia wont have enough room for the con, yet you think a hotel will? are there many hotels with halls the size of the ones at olympia? From what Jason has said, it's not just about the room. There are other events on at Olympia that weekend and the venue is concerned that these other events will be 'overwhelmed' by LFCCW. They have also said on Facebook that the Hotel can offer as much space as was planned for London. ok, so ive got to ask... if there are other events the same weekend then why book that weekend in the first place :S surely the people who run/own the olympia knew how big SM's cons are getting and that the event would need a lot of room. i also dont understnad how another event will be "overwhelmed." If people are going for the con then surely thats what they'll be there for, not to have a nose through other events. either way, im still out. its to do with access , in the past we have used the venue and sometimes there has been other events in the same structure as its so large , after London summer we are gaining a lot of interest and now the venues thoughts are that we will need to use queue people around the building and other events are happing at the same time so this is not going to work for them and us at the same time , summer has shown we are getting much bigger and we need to take that into consideration more as we move on so i do understand there thought but it has given us a few headaches . But last summer nevermind this one showed that you were getting too big for normal capacity when you had Stan Lee over. Such an eventuality should have been anticipated and prepared for long before now. The "X event has shown we are getting much bigger" excuse only works so many times so be careful you don't overdo it I don't think this is a question of Showmasters not anticipating, it seems this is a call that has been made by Olympia as they have concerns how the comic con will impact other events that are taking place at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misty86 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 That's a shame, it takes three times as long on the train each way for me, so I won't be going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodge15 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 This is just disappointing As a brand new Showmasters' customer having only just started on our first event with LFCC, we booked an entire weekend's hotels and travel (of which we got non-refundable early bird deals for getting them booked early so we can't get refunds) at the cost of hundreds of pounds with a hotel that is right next to the Olympia where we no longer need to be anywhere near that weekend now. This isn't worth the hassle unfortunately, we can't afford to take spontaneous trips to London (over 3 hours on the train) and whether it was avoidable or not the advertised event was a confirmed location that mentioned nothing about "may or may not be hosted at the Olympia" and so you take it as word and trust the organiser and book ahead to ensure you get a place there... but to move it miles away (£60 per day on the train plus hours each way of extra travel) and as only our second event it can't be said that "you should know what these events are like" as we're so new to this. To get to Brighton that weekend in time to queue for opening we'd have the leave London at about 6:30am (and miss the pre-paid "breakfast" part of the hotel booking) and spend as much of the day travelling as we would spend actually at the con. It's unfair for those aggresively defending Showmasters saying "what's the big deal" as they are clearly people who haven't lost anything... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorefandanny Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 After the farce that was how we were dealt with for our Robert Englund Diamond Pass situation, this seems another instance where the fans, that made Showmasters events so big/popular in the first place, are screwed over 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJayC Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Being from South London the Olympia was more convenient...however who doesn't like a cheeky trip down the coast? Grab some doughnuts on the pier! Count me in :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammyromie Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I actually wish I was going now. I love Brighton, been only once and it was beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualmpeddler Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I am happy and want to thank showmaster brighton is not too far from me and really chuffed i went to lfcc this year my first showmasters event and thoroughly enjoyed it i think im hooked now and will most certainly be going to more showmaster events going to bfcc this year now got another to look forward to in brighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen_Sindel Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Guys, I absolutely understand some are disappointed and part of you even have lost money on this. But please do not attack other users whose opinion you don't agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenGreen Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 So it's Brighton for this year only and then back to Olympia for London FCC Winter 2016 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egyptianblue Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 well my boyfriend and i have just lost about £50 due to hotels being unable to refund. i feel sorry for the rest of you guys who have spent more on travel and hotels... please show masters make it worth it ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crippsy_99 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) Glad now I didnt book that weekend off work! Brighton is too far for me from south wales. London takes me about 2-4hrs, and costs me approx £4-5 to £30 depending on coach or train. To get to Brighton, its 5-6hrs by train costing £200+ return, or 6-7hrs if i go by coach. Plus hotel costs id not have had in London. Unfortunately im out. Edited August 20, 2015 by crippsy_99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMD1984 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) For everyone who has purchased tickets for LFCC Winter, you will receive an automatic refund - All refunds will be initiated within 7 business days. So, I'm guessing we'll have to re-order our tickets for those who still want to go this event (at a different venue of course). Edited August 20, 2015 by SMD1984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppy Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Absolutely gutted. I won't be able to ever go to events in Brighton. Much too far. Much too expensive (being the main thing). Only been to Brighton once in my adult life and although I loved it, the train journey and the cost of the train journey was just too much (talking not far from £100!). If the events are moving away from London to Manchester and Brighton, this pretty much cancels them out for me. Shows are only going to get bigger and bigger, and that sounds like they may eventually move away from London altogether. Unless they move to the Midlands (which is very unlikely) - this will cancel out these type of events for me altogether. See it as only a negative pathway. Also splitting guests over three events may work in regards to capacity but it also means chances are the guests you want could be at another event - whereas before we knew London was a good bet. Also concerned about Collectormania - hope this won't stop altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaykfc Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Perhaps if you had not OVERSOLD tickets to the L.F.A.C.C. Olympia may have still been an option. Shame you can't use Excel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raylenth Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Well that makes the decision easy for me now. London is do-able, Brighton just a step too far. Shame, looked a good line-up so far, oh well. Olympia's excuse sounds flimsy at best, certainly makes me nervous about LFCC Summer 16! Showmasters have booked the entirety of Olympia for Summer LFCC so there won't be any other events there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raylenth Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 To get to Brighton that weekend in time to queue for opening we'd have the leave London at about 6:30am (and miss the pre-paid "breakfast" part of the hotel booking) and spend as much of the day travelling as we would spend actually at the con. Actually most people will get there earlier. For Summer LFCC I was able to get the Olympia for 6.45ish to queue for opening. To repeat that for Brighton if you aren't local you'll have to be there the day before or drive all night as it's not doable by train to come down for the day only if you want to stand any chance of meeting the busier guests if you live north of London. My earliest train on a Fri/Sat would get me to Brighton station at about 8am, factoring getting to the venue (I don't know where it is in relation to the station but I'll guess 30 mins) it's not a terrible time to arrive but not brilliant if you want to meet any of the big guests. I wouldn't even bother trying for Sunday with the trains as they don't start early enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosie727 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 If you dont have to travel hours to london first. Brighton will be ok. However i have to travel to london first 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leacroft Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Disappointing but understandable. Becoming a victim of your own success. Headaches are just starting for us punters, though. Major engineering works are planned on the railway line into Brighton that weekend.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raylenth Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Just checked the maps and it's only a 13 min walk from the station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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