Moderators DavidB Posted February 2, 2011 Moderators Share Posted February 2, 2011 Yes, last reports it was on the M5 stuck in traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avengers7 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Yes, last reports it was on the M5 stuck in traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_your_angel_of_music Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Still waiting i see! boo lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowingwings Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 *bites nails in anticipation* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemma85 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) Some sort of update anytime now would be the decent thing to do, like I said even if its just to say hold on a little longer, we're still in talks. Considering the money we pay for these events, this situation is starting to approach ridiculous. In all fairness, there has been nothing to suggest that there are any other guests in the pipeline for this event other than the "big name" currently being pursued. If there are smaller guests secured why have they not been announced? Only positive could have come from having at least one or two guests announced if secured, so if their reasoning for postponing is needing a "big name" in order for it to work, having smaller guests confirmed wouldn't change or affect that decision. Edited February 2, 2011 by gemma85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_your_angel_of_music Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Some sort of update anytime now would be the decent thing to do, like I said even if its just to say hold on a little longer, we're still in talks. Considering the money we pay for these events, this situation is starting to approach ridiculous. In all fairness, there has been nothing to suggest that there are any other guests in the pipeline for this event other than the "big name" currently being pursued. If there are smaller guests secured why have they not been announced? Only positive could have come from having at least one or two guests announced if secured, so if their reasoning for postponing is needing a "big name" in order for it to work, having smaller guests confirmed wouldn't change or affect that decision. I personally reckon...they have a couple / few very minor guests - but ones they don't think could sell them the 400 + tickets they need to make this event go ahead... and the only way it will is if they also book on this "headliner" who will sell them enough tickets (over the 400+ mark) to enable the event to still go ahead. That would be my thinking anyways...which would explain it...cause even if they only have the headliner, there is no point going ahead with the event with ONE guest - big or not...so they would have cancelled way before now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemma85 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) I personally reckon...they have a couple / few very minor guests - but ones they don't think could sell them the 400 + tickets they need to make this event go ahead... and the only way it will is if they also book on this "headliner" who will sell them enough tickets (over the 400+ mark) to enable the event to still go ahead. That would be my thinking anyways...which would explain it...cause even if they only have the headliner, there is no point going ahead with the event with ONE guest - big or not...so they would have cancelled way before now. To play devil's advocate surely that rule of thumb would apply to any con. Of course you would need a big guest in order to have decent ticket sales or enough to make it work but smaller guests have been announced for cons that have gone ahead without a "big name". Its stands to reason that with any con, a big name is the ultimate goal so dont really see how that is any more of an issue this time around than with any other event. Whether they are relying on a big name or not, if they do indeed have a smaller guest/s secured, the smart thing to do would be to announce them. No, they might not have boosted sales by hundereds & hundreds of pounds but would have certainly seen an improvement on what they currently have. And aren't we always told they can't secure bigger guests without ticket sales?! You can't expect people to part with money without any incentive. Final devils advocate point, if the success of this convention solely rests upon the securing of a big name, then it surely should have been made clear from the offset not 8 weeks before the con itself. These are simply thoughts NOT criticisms as we love attending SM/ME events and am sooooo excited about this con whenever it may happen :) Edited February 3, 2011 by 1of2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elullatook Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) You mean you were being cheeky!? I do not know if its my age...but some peeps do not seem to understand a bit of japeing when it happens. On to announcements.....Although the biggys can sell a con they are not always the most entertaining. I champion the little guys....er and girls. Edited February 3, 2011 by elullatook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo1983 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I booked my ticket for this a few weeks after they went on sale. I would love any kind of guest announcement as I'm loosing my enthusiasm for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_your_angel_of_music Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) I personally reckon...they have a couple / few very minor guests - but ones they don't think could sell them the 400 + tickets they need to make this event go ahead... and the only way it will is if they also book on this "headliner" who will sell them enough tickets (over the 400+ mark) to enable the event to still go ahead. That would be my thinking anyways...which would explain it...cause even if they only have the headliner, there is no point going ahead with the event with ONE guest - big or not...so they would have cancelled way before now. To play devil's advocate surely that rule of thumb would apply to any con. Of course you would need a big guest in order to have decent ticket sales or enough to make it work but smaller guests have been announced for cons that have gone ahead without a "big name". Its stands to reason that with any con, a big name is the ultimate goal so dont really see how that is any more of an issue this time around than with any other event. Whether they are relying on a big name or not, if they do indeed have a smaller guest/s secured, the smart thing to do would be to announce them. No, they might not have boosted sales by hundereds & hundreds of pounds but would have certainly seen an improvement on what they currently have. And aren't we always told they can't secure bigger guests without ticket sales?! You can't expect people to part with money without any incentive. Final devils advocate point, if the success of this convention solely rests upon the securing of a big name, then it surely should have been made clear from the offset not 8 weeks before the con itself. These are simply thoughts NOT criticisms as we love attending SM/ME events and am sooooo excited about this con whenever it may happen :) Oh don't get me wrong i completely agree with everything you just said....i just meant that could be whats going on....but if i am right and that is whats going on then i agree with you that they should be announcing smaller guests if they have them. What i said was just a "could be whats going on" situation. i also agree that the bigger guests dont always make the con the most entertaining, its usually the smaller guests. I just thought that maybe if they had really minor guests already contracted then they don't want to go ahead and announce them, then not sell enough tickets and then if they cant get the big guest they have "in the works" and have to postpone or cancel...that their reasoning MIGHT be to avoid disappointing everyone that they wont be meeting the already announced smaller guests. Just a theory lol not saying its right or i would agree with it like! just a general wondering as to whether or not thats what might be going on lol....plus it might be a bit of a push if they pull through a headliner and dont have any other guests already signed up - then they have what...like 7 weeks to complete a guest list, if people will sign up to the con this late on. Thats the only reasons that i think they might already have one or two contracted and not announced them yet - plus the way jason worded this thread sounded that way to me, but thats just me assuming lol Edited February 3, 2011 by 1of2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Ragamuffin Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I agree I think SM probably have a few of the smaller guests signed up but dont want to announce them until they know for sure if they can get the big guest......i mean i wouldnt want to know who the other guests are if they then said right yeah its cancelled i'd be so let down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elullatook Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Trouble is ...who is gonna buy tickets to a guestless con...better to announce someone. I mean ..if by any chance some smaller guests have been booked then please shout it out from the roof tops or this is going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicAvatar Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I'm hoping this means SM/ME are close to signing a deal and just want to give it a fraction more time. No news is good news, right? OK, it would be good to know one way or the other (especially for those whose signup depends on it) and they're going to have to bite the bullet soon, but in the meantime... positive thoughts, yes, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlorix Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 The way I see it is that they said they have "1 big guest in play" And that if negotiations fell through they were looking at postponing Well we haven't heard anything so we can assume that negotiations are still ongoing which is a good sign. If they had of fallen through already we would of been told of the postponement. Just wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamplady Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I know sm/me work really hard to make cons good for us but please give us some news. I'm starting to get a bit twitchy about things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakbeat Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I'm hoping they admit defeat and postpone it ASAP. Can't realistically see how I can afford a ticket, train ticket, hotel & photo ops etc with less than 8 weeks to go. There's a recession on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pez Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 well my decision was made today, i've used my ticket money for this to book the hotel for lfcc as at the moment at least there are guests i want to meet at that. if they did get a good guest now id try and get but it will cost me 121 return on the train now. so id have to try and blag a lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemma85 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I personally reckon...they have a couple / few very minor guests - but ones they don't think could sell them the 400 + tickets they need to make this event go ahead... and the only way it will is if they also book on this "headliner" who will sell them enough tickets (over the 400+ mark) to enable the event to still go ahead. That would be my thinking anyways...which would explain it...cause even if they only have the headliner, there is no point going ahead with the event with ONE guest - big or not...so they would have cancelled way before now. To play devil's advocate surely that rule of thumb would apply to any con. Of course you would need a big guest in order to have decent ticket sales or enough to make it work but smaller guests have been announced for cons that have gone ahead without a "big name". Its stands to reason that with any con, a big name is the ultimate goal so dont really see how that is any more of an issue this time around than with any other event. Whether they are relying on a big name or not, if they do indeed have a smaller guest/s secured, the smart thing to do would be to announce them. No, they might not have boosted sales by hundereds & hundreds of pounds but would have certainly seen an improvement on what they currently have. And aren't we always told they can't secure bigger guests without ticket sales?! You can't expect people to part with money without any incentive. Final devils advocate point, if the success of this convention solely rests upon the securing of a big name, then it surely should have been made clear from the offset not 8 weeks before the con itself. These are simply thoughts NOT criticisms as we love attending SM/ME events and am sooooo excited about this con whenever it may happen :) Oh don't get me wrong i completely agree with everything you just said....i just meant that could be whats going on....but if i am right and that is whats going on then i agree with you that they should be announcing smaller guests if they have them. What i said was just a "could be whats going on" situation. i also agree that the bigger guests dont always make the con the most entertaining, its usually the smaller guests. I just thought that maybe if they had really minor guests already contracted then they don't want to go ahead and announce them, then not sell enough tickets and then if they cant get the big guest they have "in the works" and have to postpone or cancel...that their reasoning MIGHT be to avoid disappointing everyone that they wont be meeting the already announced smaller guests. Just a theory lol not saying its right or i would agree with it like! just a general wondering as to whether or not thats what might be going on lol....plus it might be a bit of a push if they pull through a headliner and dont have any other guests already signed up - then they have what...like 7 weeks to complete a guest list, if people will sign up to the con this late on. Thats the only reasons that i think they might already have one or two contracted and not announced them yet - plus the way jason worded this thread sounded that way to me, but thats just me assuming lol Absolutely agree with your points and hope you didnt take the post as a negative response to you personally in anyway, that was never our intention . I guess all we can do is wait now, just hope its not too long before we know something because our window of opportunity is closing a little more everyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcangel Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Well I am guessing it's going to be a cancellation or postponement. With 6 weeks to go now before the advertised dates I can not see enough tickets being sold to make the event viable. So my positive thinking is that is is postponed to a date I can still make and they get the big guest they've been trying to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charisma Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I hope its moved to late or next yr... see there doing just TOO many events and people cant afford it, its a recession after all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcangel Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 If they get the right guests and people want meet them then they'll find the money, recession or not. However that being said I would have thought that it's unlikely to be rescheduled any time soon as I imagine that would be very difficult to arrange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie13 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 If they get the right guests and people want meet them then they'll find the money, recession or not. However that being said I would have thought that it's unlikely to be rescheduled any time soon as I imagine that would be very difficult to arrange. Well its looking doomed now, I dont think there are any 'smaller' guests for this con booked as if there was why not let people who they are? why would you keep guests back if you need to sell tickets? Anyway hope it goes ahead and guests are announced for those of you going but it does not look good, fingers crossed for you all anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleshiny Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 If they had announced it was just a Supernatural convention I would have bought a ticket ages ago but as it is I have been waiting. The guests I assume they are calling big are Ian Somerhalder, Nina Dobrev, Paul Wesley, Jensen (unlikely because of other bookings) Jared or Misha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_your_angel_of_music Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 im guessing if it was gonna be cancelled they would of just come on and said by now. So maybe theyre still in the process of signing someone - otherwise no point leaving everyone hanging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepurplehoodedwarrior Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Showmasters have recieved a lot of heat about camceling the EMS show so I gues if they were going to cancell they want a break 1st! I thought you would get an answer soon as it's getting closer to the event and hope you get the result you're hioping for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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