Rivaan Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) I've been seeing this a bit on the forums and thought I would make a post about it before things may become out of hand. When it comes to internet jargon, the terms newb and newbie are not bad ones, and shouldn't really be used as such to generalise all new people badly. When describing a newbie that sucks, the term n00b is generally used. I see some people taking offence, when they are coined in with bad behaviour for being new. So I think we should use the right word to avoid upsetting people? :) And yes.. I'm a newbie. Edited March 18, 2008 by Rivaan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenatalia Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) I think people have a right to take offence, however, when "newbie" is paired with "thief" or something equally demeaning. I'm not a con newbie, but I completely understand why it would offend people when used in certain contexts, such as in the missing flag thread. EDIT: Spelling mistake. Can't be having that. =P Edited March 18, 2008 by Lenatalia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousybrown Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I dont find the term offensive, only when 'newbies' are getting blamed for stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivaan Posted March 18, 2008 Author Share Posted March 18, 2008 That's what I meant. The newbies are being blamed for things, when it's obvious that all newbies aren't bad. What I was trying to say with my original post is that the troublemaking newbies should be called what the internet has deemed them: "n00bs"; to diffrentiate between all new people and just the bad ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon-snowglobe Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I'm not insulted to be called a newbie....just don't blame us for everything that goes wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousybrown Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 maybe we should just call troublemakers 'boobs' to get over the confusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenatalia Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I like to call people Goombas. Let's call them Goombas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousybrown Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Or mushy peas? I dont know why it just feels fitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivaan Posted March 18, 2008 Author Share Posted March 18, 2008 LOL! Ok, forget "n00b". Everyone just call them whatever you want, and we newbies can be left alone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirefruit Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 It's more the assumption that whenever something bad happens it's a new person full stop that's annoying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
such_jaunt Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I actually think Newbie is quite an affectionate term - it's nicer than being called a virgin... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crippsy_99 Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 The newbs are revolting!! or is that n00bs then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_mk Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 It's more the assumption that whenever something bad happens it's a new person full stop that's annoying! a lot of the problems WERE caused by people new to the scene (conventionally challenegd?)... that said, MOST of the conventionally challenged people were perfectly well behaved and not a problem. We are talking about a very small minority of people showing a lack of manners and disrespect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) It's more the assumption that whenever something bad happens it's a new person full stop that's annoying! a lot of the problems WERE caused by people new to the scene (conventionally challenegd?)... that said, MOST of the conventionally challenged people were perfectly well behaved and not a problem. We are talking about a very small minority of people showing a lack of manners and disrespect. Is it not safe to say that people who are disrespectful and lack manners would be the same pretty much regardless of how many conventions they go to? Just because someone has been to multiple conventions does not make them a nicer person. Some people are naturally nice, and some are just pricks. Being a seasoned veteran doesn't alter inherent behaviour. Does it? I suspect that if people new to the scene did cause problems, it was most likely because of lack of understanding and trying to find their feet, rather than inherent 'bastardness', and after their first convention they'll have a far better understanding and not make the same mistakes next time. On the other hand, people who are naturally pricks will always be such, regardless of experience. I am certainly not referring to anyone in particular, just the human condition in general. In conclusion, Edited March 18, 2008 by Kenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousybrown Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) BUT, alot of new people are probably more scared to go and harass the guests.... i know when i met my first ever famous person i only managed a hi and that was when they were signing my photo. i really think its unfair to blame new people for most of the trouble. Its unfair to blame anyone apart from the hobnobs who did it : ) until theres names or anything it should just be left alone. my opinion :) and this is from the one who requested bob the builder (Y) Edited March 18, 2008 by mousybrown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenatalia Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 So YOU did that! Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Beddall Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 (edited) hey, I was a convention Noob until I went to eclipse... but I've met quite a few famous people in real life, just from being in bands and stuff. I don't get the whole crowding them thing, they are just people. if you treat them as you would like to be treated then everything is fine. ( I think that was put across at every given moment by the staff, and they are right) I guess some people just get carried away. p.s there was no excuse for bob the builder..shame on you Edited March 19, 2008 by Beddall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohan_ Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I loved there being so many newbies at the con, very refreshing. But.....there were some idiots also, I am talking mainly about the group of racist yobs who decided they wanted to start a fight outside the hotel on Saturday night. If the flashy kid in the white suit from saturday night and the big nasty mouthy bloke want to step forward and apologise now that would be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousybrown Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 There was a fight outside the hotel WHERE DO I GO. I MISS EVERYTHING. and yes that was me, AS A JOKE. i didnt expect the DJ to humiliate me or anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohan_ Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 There was a fight outside the hotel ohmy.gifWHERE DO I GO. I MISS EVERYTHING. Nah they just wanted to fight, did not give them the satisfaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousybrown Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 oh right, good on you then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovbug Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 This might be going off subject. But this was my first con you would call me a 'newbie' but i have been doing signing events for awhile now. Everybody told me time and time again how different cons were to signing events. Having been to a con, i didnt feel like there was much difference at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morden Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 This might be going off subject. But this was my first con you would call me a 'newbie' but i have been doing signing events for awhile now. Everybody told me time and time again how different cons were to signing events. Having been to a con, i didnt feel like there was much difference at all. There are definite differences, though perhaps they didn't affect what you personally do at signing events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovbug Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 This might be going off subject. But this was my first con you would call me a 'newbie' but i have been doing signing events for awhile now. Everybody told me time and time again how different cons were to signing events. Having been to a con, i didnt feel like there was much difference at all. There are definite differences, though perhaps they didn't affect what you personally do at signing events. Yes maybe its a personal thing. Why are they so different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morden Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 One example: at many signing shows, you can take photos of the guests during the autographs. Even get them to lean across the table for a photo with you. Not at most conventions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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