jamesthehorse Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Does anybody know what happened to the old ‘Autographica’ team. I used to look forward to their announcements, because they always made it fun, and were so friendly, and approachable. Autographica ran differently to the other Showmasters events, and I liked how it was so informal and relaxed. Now we just have arguments, and locked threads, etc. Please come back guys. I miss you!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prendy9160 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I agree with some of the comments,since the show has got bigger it has lacked a certain something, i beleive that is a personal touch. When Dave/Garry had the event it was smaller but they still had great guests it was more personal you could spend more time with the guests. The show now has become like to rest massed produced you have tyo pay for everything, perhaps less people will attend the show this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted January 6, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 6, 2008 Many of my friends have said to me that Autographica is the most relaxed and personal event that they attend - certainly compared to the other SM events. Is it really that different to how it was before? I can't imagine it being on the same scale as Collectormania etc in size or attendance. A couple of 'arguments' and locked topics on here isn't entirely representative of the actual event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesthehorse Posted January 6, 2008 Author Share Posted January 6, 2008 Where have all the old faces gone though? Why have they all gone missing? Why don’t they do the announcements anymore? I for one want them back. It’s just not the same. Have they been bought out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lone gunman Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Where have all the old faces gone though? Why have they all gone missing? Why don’t they do the announcements anymore? I for one want them back. It’s just not the same. Have they been bought out? Garry told me that he's no longer involved with the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesthehorse Posted January 6, 2008 Author Share Posted January 6, 2008 That’s sad news. Does anybody know ‘why’ this spit has occurred?. He and Dave were ‘Autographica’ – and the reason it was so good. Is Dave still involved, or has he gone too?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmut Heisig Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 That’s sad news. Does anybody know ‘why’ this spit has occurred?. He and Dave were ‘Autographica’ – and the reason it was so good. Is Dave still involved, or has he gone too?. I agree,that`s really bad news. Garry`s commitment for Autographica was an guarantee for famous space guests. Did the cooperation between Autographica and the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation close as well ? Helmut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Dave Phillips Posted January 8, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 8, 2008 Hello everyone Yes i am still alive, I have just escaped from the basement of Showmasters towers and i am making my way home via switzerland. Seriously guy,s I am still here and very much kicking. Working away in the background to produce what i believe will be a spectacular show. The hotel is fantastic, the exhibition space is unbelievable and our guest list is rocking. Loads more to come. I like to leave you all alone to fight it out on the forum. But i will tell you this, this years guest line up is going to be great. Now please let me get on as i still have another 200 miles until i clear enemy territory. Dave Phillips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufresne Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 He's alive ! ....... ALIVE !!!!! ALIVE !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showmasters Admin showmasters Posted January 8, 2008 Showmasters Admin Share Posted January 8, 2008 Hi Jason from the big bad Showmasters here, we will still be working with Astronaut Scholarship Foundation and like last year intend to bring over big names from past space programs i would like to say one thing to the comment above and that is before we joined up with Autographica it was a well run fun event that just covered its costs, after Showmasters joined up with Autographica all that did not change we still run a well run fun event that just covers its costs infact the only thing that changed was that Showmasters were able to under right bigger fees and gaurantees which ment Autographica could take the risk and book much bigger guests that needed bigger gaurantee and fees with out Showmaster we would not have met The likes of Jim lovell Buzz Aldrin Fred Haise Ursula Andress Norman Wisdom as to the running of the events that was left to Dave and Gary which did a fine job The show it self costs alot of money to run and alot of risk for very little reward, I know that at some time or another Gary,Dave and myself have all felt that we did not want to work so hard for manny months and not even break even which sometimes has happened including the last event i know it must be hard to understand how you can not make money with a show like Autographica well we have to pay fees to guests,hotel,adds,photos,food for the guests,flights for guests,rooms for the crew,rooms for the guests,etc and we have to get that all back over only 3 days and sometimes we do sometimes we do not now as to Dave and Gary not being on here so much well Gary was never on here at all really, and as for Dave he is like me working on guests and trying to get ahead of him self and doing a good job i think, so i have had to come on here to try to keep the peace and i do it a bit difrent from Dave i know but i do not think Dave has had to deal with the arguments i have had to this time but i do talk to him evey day and he has as much a say in what guests come to the event or not so nothing has changed there and dave has been behind every guest we have put up for this show as to Gary he has sead that he is going to stop co running the events with us mostly due to alot of the above time, risk ,etc not having enuff time to do what he wants, but things have not been put in stone yet. even if Gary is not involed in the running of the events he will still be at them and problay having more fun than Dave and my self well i hope that explains what is going on and puts your minds at rest that just because we are now getting some military guests into the mix we will not forget the classic TV and Film stars you have all become to love to meet at Autographica just remeber we are all fans and we all work to make the events continue and i would like to thank you all for all the support you have given us over the years all the best jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SciFiMAD Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Hi Jason from the big bad Showmasters here, we will still be working with Astronaut Scholarship Foundation and like last year intend to bring over big names from past space programs i would like to say one thing to the comment above and that is before we joined up with Autographica it was a well run fun event that just covered its costs, after Showmasters joined up with Autographica all that did not change we still run a well run fun event that just covers its costs infact the only thing that changed was that Showmasters were able to under right bigger fees and gaurantees which ment Autographica could take the risk and book much bigger guests that needed bigger gaurantee and fees with out Showmaster we would not have met The likes of Jim lovell Buzz Aldrin Fred Haise Ursula Andress Norman Wisdom as to the running of the events that was left to Dave and Gary which did a fine job The show it self costs alot of money to run and alot of risk for very little reward, I know that at some time or another Gary,Dave and myself have all felt that we did not want to work so hard for manny months and not even break even which sometimes has happened including the last event i know it must be hard to understand how you can not make money with a show like Autographica well we have to pay fees to guests,hotel,adds,photos,food for the guests,flights for guests,rooms for the crew,rooms for the guests,etc and we have to get that all back over only 3 days and sometimes we do sometimes we do not now as to Dave and Gary not being on here so much well Gary was never on here at all really, and as for Dave he is like me working on guests and trying to get ahead of him self and doing a good job i think, so i have had to come on here to try to keep the peace and i do it a bit difrent from Dave i know but i do not think Dave has had to deal with the arguments i have had to this time but i do talk to him evey day and he has as much a say in what guests come to the event or not so nothing has changed there and dave has been behind every guest we have put up for this show as to Gary he has sead that he is going to stop co running the events with us mostly due to alot of the above time, risk ,etc not having enuff time to do what he wants, but things have not been put in stone yet. even if Gary is not involed in the running of the events he will still be at them and problay having more fun than Dave and my self well i hope that explains what is going on and puts your minds at rest that just because we are now getting some military guests into the mix we will not forget the classic TV and Film stars you have all become to love to meet at Autographica just remeber we are all fans and we all work to make the events continue and i would like to thank you all for all the support you have given us over the years all the best jason Keep up the great work Showmasters, and Dave. This is a great show that I love coming too each year. Thanks I role on April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesthehorse Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 Can you ask Dave though, if he’d be willing to come back and do the guest announcements, and be moderator again? Not really sure what that has to do with Autographica needing Showmasters for financial reasons? I liked those days better. That’s all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen_Sindel Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 If you check the events overview site you will see that Dave is still a moderator for this section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesthehorse Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 (edited) You clearly do not understand my point. I know he's listed. Edited January 12, 2008 by James The Horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted January 12, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 12, 2008 What is your point then? No doubt if Dave has the time etc then he'll do what he can on here as usual, but he's never been as active as other 'moderators' on here - if things kick off about certain topics, they'll simply be dealt with by whoever is around, and as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen_Sindel Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 (edited) What is your point then? You beat me to that. I fully realize what you were hinting at, James. But we've been through the "all Showmasters moderators are evil" bit one here quite some times, and every time it has been explained why other moderators than Dave, Jason and the other organisers have been appointed. Edited January 12, 2008 by Queen_Sindel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesthehorse Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 Is it too hard to understand? I would appreciate, if Dave came back, and played a more active role in the forums again. Doing the announcements etc…. No offence to Jason, but I liked how Dave ran things before. I’m not sure what other people think?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen_Sindel Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 If this is your point David has already answered your questions: No doubt if Dave has the time etc then he'll do what he can on here as usual, but he's never been as active as other 'moderators' on here - if things kick off about certain topics, they'll simply be dealt with by whoever is around, and as soon as possible. Just like Showmasters themselves Dave has never been as active as the other moderators. There have always been moderators like TooTall, David or myself around keeping an eye on the Autographica section. Things have not been "ran differently" in this section of the forum before. The only thing that has lately changed is that Showmasters have done the last guest announcements. And I am really not sure what the problem with that is. As long as guests are being announced, does it really matter who announces them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesthehorse Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 Honestly, you’re arguing about something that can be easily proved by simply reading the forum. So why bother?. You clearly must be bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen_Sindel Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Actually yes, I am bored because I am waiting for some Ebay auctions that just won't end. The original question has been answered by Showmasters in great detail, and I am not getting involved in another pointless discussion again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showmasters Admin showmasters Posted January 13, 2008 Showmasters Admin Share Posted January 13, 2008 Honestly, you’re arguing about something that can be easily proved by simply reading the forum. So why bother?. You clearly must be bored. I do not see where you are coming from, Dave is on here and we have both talked to you so he is not missing I HAVE NOT EATEN HIM You may get along better with Dave, maybe he is more like a friend ? Maybe it should not take place on here though - maybe you two should get a room ? just kidding So Dave is still here and we are both working on guests at this time, but I do not think you will see much different in how the shows are run this is going to be a great event jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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