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I dont think this is the end of LFCC, more of a new start.

 

Im sure they will get some good guests between now and the day. Look back to last year, when everything happened at the last minute.

 

Have faith, and look foward to this event and the future LFCCs.

 

Ian

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Great words of wisdom will now be uttered ...

 

 

 

... hold your breath ...

 

 

 

... are you ready ? ...

 

 

 

... the suspense is killing ...

 

 

 

 

... isn't it ? ...

 

 

 

 

... well, here they come ! ...

 

 

 

 

... cough ...

 

 

 

 

 

... we'll just have to wait and see, now won't we ?! :lol::wub:

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The London Film and Comic Con has moved to a new home at Earls Court. The venue is huge and allows SM to do some new and exciting things. It should mean loads of dealers and hopefully allow the capcaity to add some other big non-guest features to the show.

 

Sure, people may want more guests. SM are possibly saving the best till last on the announcement front. If you do not want to miss a guest, come along to the show! If you want other guests for shows, be proactive and make suggestions through the designated routes on this forum.

 

LFACC is an exciting venture which I am looking forward to. Although I welcome a free forum, please do not be overly critical until after you have been to the show, you could very well be pleasently surprised!

 

:lol:

 

Paul

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Whilst i understand what you're saying Waterboy, have you not been reading what people are saying? Whilst I don't encourage needless whining, people do have a point. When you have to make significant/expensive (possibly non refundable) travel arrangements it must be incredibly frustrating not knowing who is attending. Most people can't just decide to go at the last minute. And what If you make these arrangements, book flights, hotels and take time off work on the basis that some really good and unmissable guests might be announced nearer the time. What If they aren't? People then get stuck with the costs of an event they have paid out for that they don't really want to attend?

 

Also Earls Court might give them the scope to do more but if they haven't got the guests will that many people really go? If not as many as hoped visit, how many dealers will book for the next one?

 

Whilst I love SM events and have attended all of their events in the last 2/3 years and was thrilled with the line up for LFCC2 (Massive Stargate fan) there is no-one yet I want to see at LFCC3.

 

I'm sure that SM will suprise us all and I'm just sitting back and waiting for them to get back to us, but people have to remember that whilst we all accept that the guest lists are liable to change there are people out there that do have legitimate concerns with the lack of information.

 

Anyway, on with show!

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The London Film and Comic Con has moved to a new home at Earls Court.  The venue is huge and allows SM to do some new and exciting things. It should mean loads of dealers and hopefully allow the capcaity to add some other big non-guest features to the show.

 

Sure, people may want more guests.  SM are possibly saving the best till last on the announcement front.  If you do not want to miss a guest, come along to the show!  If you want other guests for shows, be proactive and make suggestions through the designated routes on this forum.

 

LFACC is an exciting venture which I am looking forward to.  Although I welcome a free forum, please do not be overly critical until after you have been to the show, you could very well be pleasently surprised!

 

:wub:

 

Paul

Spot on, now this is what its about!

 

People need to chill and when I say people I am talking about the select few

 

The problem is with the big guests that if you say they are coming too early and people pay money or take time off or whatever and things happen which they do in this business then they are screwed either way.

 

Best thing is to book time off, which you can always change and leave the rest till last minute.

 

I think that all mayjor guests should be announced 10 days before the start of the event so that gives people time to get things sorted!

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I think they need to strike a balance between holding off in case guests cancel, and just plain leaving it too late !

Yeah thats fair, they need to make an announcement this weekend. Even if its minor or repeat guests it will help everybody out with thier plans!

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Or even - although I reckon it is risky - give out a list of the people they are negotiating with, adding in huge letters that all these names are under reserve and are not yet confirmed.

 

At least it would give a clear idea of where LFCC3 is heading to !

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Or even - although I reckon it is risky - give out a list of the people they are negotiating with, adding in huge letters that all these names are under reserve and are not yet confirmed.

 

At least it would give a clear idea of where LFCC3 is heading to !

Yeah I thought about that too, but it is just way too risky and I doubt any stars want to be linked in case others are looking to book them for that weekend also!

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Yes and no.

 

If SM are currently negotiating the final details for certain guests (like : "do you want the red or the brown M&M's in your hotel room" ?), they could announce them.

 

If they have just sent them a formal invitation with no reply yet, it would be foolish to announce them already.

 

Just my two cents' worth. It might calm people down AND - more importantly - start generating some buzz for LFCC3, for I do think that's something that should really start rolling now (it is getting pretty close now ...)

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Or even - although I reckon it is risky - give out a list of the people they are negotiating with, adding in huge letters that all these names are under reserve and are not yet confirmed.

 

At least it would give a clear idea of where LFCC3 is heading to !

I mentioned this before but I was told that a lot of the time they're not allowed to say who they an negotiating with because guests do have the right to sue if their name is used to advertise something without a signed contact. As their name is being used without their written consent.

 

There is also the problem of poaching. If SM advertise they are in negs with someone, another event organiser may not have known that person was available and may try to get in there first (or with more money). So it's also good business sense for SM not to announce until they have a signed contract.

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Yes and no.

 

If SM are currently negotiating the final details for certain guests (like : "do you want the red or the brown M&M's in your hotel room" ?), they could announce them.

 

If they have just sent them a formal invitation with no reply yet, it would be foolish to announce them already.

 

Just my two cents' worth. It might calm people down AND - more importantly - start generating some buzz for LFCC3, for I do think that's something that should really start rolling now (it is getting pretty close now ...)

Yeah needs some buzz, im getting semi excited only because im going on Holiday sunday night from Heathrow so should be good!

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Or even - although I reckon it is risky - give out a list of the people they are negotiating with, adding in huge letters that all these names are under reserve and are not yet confirmed.

 

At least it would give a clear idea of where LFCC3 is heading to !

I mentioned this before but I was told that a lot of the time they're not allowed to say who they an negotiating with because guests do have the right to sue if their name is used to advertise something without a signed contact. As their name is being used without their written consent.

 

There is also the problem of poaching. If SM advertise they are in negs with someone, another event organiser may not have known that person was available and may try to get in there first (or with more money). So it's also good business sense for SM not to announce until they have a signed contract.

Well, being a lawyer myself (albeit not specialised in English law), I would be surprised if anyone could sue provided that SM would play it fairly, i.e. :

 

- limited announcement (i.e. no large scale publicity)

- of the fact that they are currently in negotiations

- with someone with no signed contract yet

- meaning that it cannot be confirmed that that person will actually attend

- all of this clearly stated in a normal lettertype (and not hidden away in some kind of disclaimer on a suspect Russian site)

- with the immediate announcement of any changes (e.g. once a guest says he can't make they immediately remove him from the list)

 

That kind of announcement should be fairly safe.

 

As to the risk of someone else 'stealing' their guests, all SM needs to do to counter that is to enter into exclusive negotiations. That way the guest isn't bound to appear at the SM event, but at least SM knows the guest will only be talking to them for a certain time.

 

So, all in all, none of this should be too difficult.

 

But, as said, just my two cents' worth !

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There is also the problem of poaching. If SM advertise they are in negs with someone, another event organiser may not have known that person was available and may try to get in there first (or with more money). So it's also good business sense for SM not to announce until they have a signed contract.

 

Remember the Chris Judge fiasco!

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There is also the problem of poaching. If SM advertise they are in negs with someone, another event organiser may not have known that person was available and may try to get in there first (or with more money). So it's also good business sense for SM not to announce until they have a signed contract.

 

Remember the Chris Judge fiasco!

Oooooooo yes.

 

But as we know in that case it was another organiser that was in the wrong. They didn't wait for a signed contract before announcing and it came back to bite them in the ar$e. SM didn't announce until they had a signed contact.

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Or even - although I reckon it is risky - give out a list of the people they are negotiating with, adding in huge letters that all these names are under reserve and are not yet confirmed.

 

At least it would give a clear idea of where LFCC3 is heading to !

I mentioned this before but I was told that a lot of the time they're not allowed to say who they an negotiating with because guests do have the right to sue if their name is used to advertise something without a signed contact. As their name is being used without their written consent.

 

There is also the problem of poaching. If SM advertise they are in negs with someone, another event organiser may not have known that person was available and may try to get in there first (or with more money). So it's also good business sense for SM not to announce until they have a signed contract.

Well, being a lawyer myself (albeit not specialised in English law), I would be surprised if anyone could sue provided that SM would play it fairly, i.e. :

 

- limited announcement (i.e. no large scale publicity)

- of the fact that they are currently in negotiations

- with someone with no signed contract yet

- meaning that it cannot be confirmed that that person will actually attend

- all of this clearly stated in a normal lettertype (and not hidden away in some kind of disclaimer on a suspect Russian site)

- with the immediate announcement of any changes (e.g. once a guest says he can't make they immediately remove him from the list)

 

That kind of announcement should be fairly safe.

 

As to the risk of someone else 'stealing' their guests, all SM needs to do to counter that is to enter into exclusive negotiations. That way the guest isn't bound to appear at the SM event, but at least SM knows the guest will only be talking to them for a certain time.

 

So, all in all, none of this should be too difficult.

 

But, as said, just my two cents' worth !

It does make good business sense to get the big names out as soon as possible. So I can only assume that SM have a good reason why they don't.

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Or even - although I reckon it is risky - give out a list of the people they are negotiating with, adding in huge letters that all these names are under reserve and are not yet confirmed.

 

At least it would give a clear idea of where LFCC3 is heading to !

I mentioned this before but I was told that a lot of the time they're not allowed to say who they an negotiating with because guests do have the right to sue if their name is used to advertise something without a signed contact. As their name is being used without their written consent.

 

There is also the problem of poaching. If SM advertise they are in negs with someone, another event organiser may not have known that person was available and may try to get in there first (or with more money). So it's also good business sense for SM not to announce until they have a signed contract.

Well, being a lawyer myself (albeit not specialised in English law), I would be surprised if anyone could sue provided that SM would play it fairly, i.e. :

 

- limited announcement (i.e. no large scale publicity)

- of the fact that they are currently in negotiations

- with someone with no signed contract yet

- meaning that it cannot be confirmed that that person will actually attend

- all of this clearly stated in a normal lettertype (and not hidden away in some kind of disclaimer on a suspect Russian site)

- with the immediate announcement of any changes (e.g. once a guest says he can't make they immediately remove him from the list)

 

That kind of announcement should be fairly safe.

 

As to the risk of someone else 'stealing' their guests, all SM needs to do to counter that is to enter into exclusive negotiations. That way the guest isn't bound to appear at the SM event, but at least SM knows the guest will only be talking to them for a certain time.

 

So, all in all, none of this should be too difficult.

 

But, as said, just my two cents' worth !

Good info dude with one major problem, you are from English law and most of these guys use American Law where you can be sued for anything in the world you can make up a claim for and win!

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Personally I think it's totally ridiculous to expect them to announce people they are merely negotiating with and have no signed contract for. Not even mentioning how totally unprofessional it would be - but it would get totally out of hand.

 

SM for instance would say 'we are negotiating with insert name here who may be coming' - it then turns into a case of chinese whispers and all of a sudden the buzz is going around that a certain person is definately coming. When/if said person has to pull out you just have a lot of dissapointed fans on your hands and outcrys of 'but you said!'

 

If SM's have guests signed sealed and ready to be delivered then bring them on - I'd love to know. But I don't want to know who they are negotiating with until it's all sorted. They must talk to hundreds of people for these events who, for one reason or another don't materialize.

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Personally I think it's totally ridiculous to expect them to announce people they are merely negotiating with and have no signed contract for. Not even mentioning how totally unprofessional it would be - but it would get totally out of hand.

 

SM for instance would say 'we are negotiating with insert name here who may be coming' - it then turns into a case of chinese whispers and all of a sudden the buzz is going around that a certain person is definately coming. When/if said person has to pull out you just have a lot of dissapointed fans on your hands and outcrys of 'but you said!'

 

If SM's have guests signed sealed and ready to be delivered then bring them on - I'd love to know. But I don't want to know who they are negotiating with until it's all sorted. They must talk to hundreds of people for these events who, for one reason or another don't materialize.

 

Good point, well made. Imagine the chaos! The idea of releasing a negotiations list is absolutely ridiculous and completely irresponsible.

 

I still suspect that even if somebody like Tom (bloody) Cruise were announced, you'd have people say 'More Buffy & SG guests plz!'

 

:lol:

 

 

 

 

Keep the faith.

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I agree with what the last person said! Let SM get on with things and stop hasseling them to announce people before they are ready! They aren't stupid - they have ran many succesful events before - and we will get to hear about the guests when the contratcs are signed and SM are ready to announce.

 

Be patient and we'll find out when we can be told more!

 

Chelle

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I still suspect that even if somebody like Tom (bloody) Cruise were announced, you'd have people say 'More Buffy & SG guests plz!'

Of course they would, that's a bit of a bloody stupid statement.

 

I personally won't want to meet TC, I don't want to see him enough to be bothered with the queue he'd have. I'd want other guests there, like SG, ST or Buffy guests. It's horses for courses. What one likes another may not.

 

As long as people are asking politly I don't see the problem.

 

Bitching is a different thing and people should get over themselves.

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I still suspect that even if somebody like Tom (bloody) Cruise were announced, you'd have people say 'More Buffy & SG guests plz!'

 

oi! whats wrong with that???!!! SG guests rock!! :lol: tom cruise would be amazing! not that id personally want to meet him but i know there are LOTS who would :lol:

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