2011 series to be split into two

[king b]

The next series is going to be split into two and be aired few months apart.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/aug/2...er-series-split

 

 

Should be interesting to hear you lot thoughts on this.

[timelord81r]

im not sure. it annoys me that moffat is saying its like 2 series, er no, 20 plus eps is a series, not the silly 6 uk version of a series, im glad who was 13. now we are getting 7 and 6 followed by an xmas one, hummm, i think it could be a good thing, the problem with series finales in who were they had to be resolved so we could have a xmas with all the trimmings fun ep with some famous actors. I like cliffhangers so a mid season finale like what most us shows do aswell i think is a good idea. so im all for it especially as it means less time between new who.

 

but I have 3 concerns

 

1 - this mid season earth shattering event moff talks about i really hope its not matt smith regenerating,I love matts doc, but he needs to do at the every least 3 series (proper who series of 13 eps not 6 eps = a series)

 

2- that they dont use both finales as story arc revelations, at only 13 eps, I want to see more stand alone stories like the original series. arcs are great, I love arcs but if we have an arc that has 2 finales or 2 arcs in this new set up than the individual story might be lost.

 

3- are 13 eps enough to do 2 series or a series with a mid series finale? which ever way you want to phrase it,

[BigSi13]

Although Matt Smith has indicated that he may only be in for the next series due to Hollywood aspirations, I think he may be sounding off to get his name out there. Dr Who does well in the States, so we may see an end of season appearance by Jack which leads into Torchwood. There are many reasons as to why it is happening this way, but Sherlock has been commissioned for a second series in 2011. Could this be the reason for the 2 halves?

[Avengers7]

Am not really bothered either way. If he is only doing another series lets hope they replace him with a better actor like Benedict Cumberbatch or David Morrisay.

[timelord81r]

Am not really bothered either way. If he is only doing another series lets hope they replace him with a better actor like Benedict Cumberbatch or David Morrisay.

 

still not watched sherlock yet (im sure this is one of the reasons for the split) but chamberbatch i dont like, far to cocky and full of himself. not seen him in much either, and I think matt is a very good actor, better than tenant. I think matt should stay for at least 2 more series, he is fantastic, and if replaced id like an older actor, that doesnt mean whos pace will slow down, I mean look at pat (the best ever doc)

 

never been a fan of morrisay as an actor.

 

matt needs to stay, and where did this hollywood stuff come form? did he actually say that? ive heard it mentioned before but never form matts mouth.

[Avengers7]

Tennant was a lot better but each to his own.

 

 

To appreciate how brilliant Cumberbatch is as an actor you need to see some of his earlier stuff. He is brilliant as Sherlock but was also just as good in The Last Enemy, Atonement, Starter for 10 and To the ends of the Earth.

Edited August 31, 2010 by reddragon

[BigSi13]

matt needs to stay, and where did this hollywood stuff come form? did he actually say that? ive heard it mentioned before but never form matts mouth.

He did two interviews, one for a newspaper and one for a magazine, and both were pretty much the same content. One of the comments he made following a question regarding how long he would like to stay on as The Doctor, he said that he might only do one more series as he wanted to work in Hollywood. The magazine was Heat, but cannot remember which national newspaper that it was.

 

So, seeing as there has been no retraction or denial by Matt, I am guessing he may well have said it.

 

Matt has his pluses and minuses as The Doctor. David was the same.

 

If they ever did a multi Doctor arc, seeing Matt and David together would be great.

[Avengers7]

If they ever did a multi Doctor arc, seeing Matt and David together would be great.

 

 

Eccleston and Tennat would be even better.

[BigSi13]

If they ever did a multi Doctor arc, seeing Matt and David together would be great.

 

 

Eccleston and Tennat would be even better.

Smith, Tennant and Eccleston.

[Charmer]

Splitting the series sounds interesting. A bit worried it could be a re-gen that we're left with, that'd be awful having to wait a couple of months to find out if he leaves. Or perhaps it's something to do with who River is? A multi Doc ep would be fun but I think you need an older Doc then the last two, bring back Tom Baker or something. It could be a Torchwood link as well. We'll have to wait and see I guess!

[BigSi13]

Matt Smith has said in several interviews that he is currently signed until the end of the next season. That means no regeneration half way through.

[timelord81r]

Matt Smith has said in several interviews that he is currently signed until the end of the next season. That means no regeneration half way through.

 

thank god! matt smith is fantastic

[BigSi13]

I cannot see Matt leaving after the next season as no jobs have come flooding in for him. I am wondering if Matt was overcome with the great reviews he got. I can see him staying for a few more years a least.

 

The thing that concerns me is that Moff has already commented about the amount of times a Doctor can regenerate. It is not down to Moff when Doctor Who might end. After all, things can happen in fiction. Rules can change. I am wondering if Moff is getting ahead of himself about the future.

 

Moff was seen as the knight in shining armour to rescue DW from RTD and DT. What was there to rescue?

 

Moff wrote great episodes during the reign of RTD, but when he took over from RTD I felt his game dropped down a few pegs. Only the shear madness of Matt Smith's portrayal made this series work.

 

Moff is not as good as people made him out to be. He talked a good game, but has not lived up to it in my view. I see his run as no better than RTD's.

[timelord81r]

who didnt need saving, but it did need a new angle i think, matt is fantastic, i thought when he was announced he would be rubbish but he isnt, he is fantastic and the moff, series 5 was the strongest series of new who, it was consistently strong. was it the second coming us moff fans thought it would be? no, but it was still so much better than what had come before it.

 

tennant is a good actor but his portrayal of the doctor was far to arrogant, to cocky, to self obsessed and far to average joe human, for me anyway, just watch the end of time for his self obsessed human rants.

 

just look at how the moff has done family and friends of the companion compared to RTD, so much better and less eastenders/hollyoaks in terms of tone and look. his variations on present day earth are so much more interesting than rtd also. now I still enjoy for the most part RTD years, especially series 1, there was some great stuff throughout though in series 2/3/4, but it was also starting to get a little to predictable and silly especially in from the next doctor onwards. shame. maybe the masses on here will disagree with me but moffs who is so much better. and matt is so much a better doctor, maybe tennants a better actor, its early days but matts a better doctor by far.

 

back to the split, its starting to warm to me, no massive break in-between who and no who lol. shame they couldnt pump out an extra ep or 2 though, but them im just greedy lol

[nosfer2]

tennant is a good actor but his portrayal of the doctor was far to arrogant, to cocky, to self obsessed and far to average joe human, for me anyway, just watch the end of time for his self obsessed human rants.

 

How much of that was down to him, and how much was down to the writing/direction he was given? I'm not knocking what you are saying, but it's not all that long ago that he was widely being lauded as "the best Doctor ever". I expect a similar thing will happen when Matt Smith eventually moves on.

[timelord81r]

tennant is a good actor but his portrayal of the doctor was far to arrogant, to cocky, to self obsessed and far to average joe human, for me anyway, just watch the end of time for his self obsessed human rants.

 

How much of that was down to him, and how much was down to the writing/direction he was given? I'm not knocking what you are saying, but it's not all that long ago that he was widely being lauded as "the best Doctor ever". I expect a similar thing will happen when Matt Smith eventually moves on.

 

yep its hard to say if that was more down to him or RTD but the end result is the same.

 

humm, i think many still consider him to the the best ever. not me, although my opinion of him lowered as the series went on, ive always been more of a critic of his portrayal than a supporter of it. yes at times he was amazing and thats down to tennant the actor in dramatic scenes. but overall I actually started to hate his doctor during the specials. which hurts me, as weird as that sounds. but yer thats why i said i still like tennant but not how his doctor ended up being portrayed. he is probably my least fav doctor these days. even with some of the amazing stuff he did.

 

id still pay over the odds for a photo with him though ;-)

[BACYLON]

Splitting in two...hmm....nothing to do with possibly drumming up the sales of DVD's then??

 

Then again I am a cynical git!

[timelord81r]

Splitting in two...hmm....nothing to do with possibly drumming up the sales of DVD's then??

 

Then again I am a cynical git!

 

are individual new series dvd release that high in sales? i cant see why they owuld be, there crap in terms of bonus features and more expensive overall than the complete box set. so I cant see it being down to the vanilla ones but if you are suggesting they would release a part 1 and part 2 box set together mroe expensive than the current complete sets then id be angry lol, i dont think the break is that big though is it in terms of time between them? i think though its very much down to ratings, summer time who always looses some viewers due to the weather or football, plus with a break its on tv longer in a way so in the audiences minds more, plus with a mid season break ala us shows it can end on a cliffhanger and lure more ppl in. more advertisement also. will be interesting for sure, could be a master stroke, could be pointless, we will see.

[BigSi13]

It is also down to the fact that Moffatt is also filming the next series of Sherlock.

[timelord81r]

It is also down to the fact that Moffatt is also filming the next series of Sherlock.

 

good point, id forgotten about that

[nosfer2]

I wonder if the 2012 Olympics is also a factor. Maybe they've brought this in now so that in a year-and-a-half no-one complains when the only thing on the BBC over the summer is sport?

[timelord81r]

I wonder if the 2012 Olympics is also a factor. Maybe they've brought this in now so that in a year-and-a-half no-one complains when the only thing on the BBC over the summer is sport?

 

 

could also be a possibility, like ive mentioned summer and summer sporting times have always dented who's ratings slightly

[BigSi13]

It has been stated by the BBC when this was announced that it was split due to conflicting schedules of key players. If it actually improves the ratings then it may well stay as is. 2012 is a different kettle of fish as the Olympics are in this country. It could also mean Who and Torchwood, plus mooted new off shoots from Who, can be spread throughout the year rather than back to back over a small period of time.

 

Summer Sporting events only dent Who's figures if the live matches/events are on a Saturday evening.

 

I guess time will tell.

[TerraHawk]

Summer Sporting events only dent Who's figures if the live matches/events are on a Saturday evening.

If on the same channel it can help.

 

The reason for the summer fall off is (occasionally!) better weather, lighter evenings, kids are more likely to be outside, rather than huddled in front of a TV. Not a bad thing.

 

 

shame they couldnt pump out an extra ep or 2 though, but them im just greedy lol

 

I think we are lucky enough its stayed at 13. Two six part series would probably be easier to fit into repeat schedules etc. Who must be a nightmare with specials of various lengths! One of the main reasons BBC3 keeps the 15 minute confidentials is that can be dropped to fit longer episodes.

[BigSi13]

better weather

 

The UK and occasional better weather...never heard that before!!