val79 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 hey to the powers that be, please can you bring some twi cast to glasgow, they go to the events down south, so how about etting them to come up here aswell, it will really boost ticket sales (and save me a fortune lol). so how about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted January 26, 2010 Moderators Share Posted January 26, 2010 Considering the cost to bring Twilight guests to an event, I would imagine they need to get them to the busiest events to even get near breaking even financially. Personally I'd be surprised to see any at Glasgow which is a growing show. No doubt there's plenty of Twilight fans up there and around the country that would be happy to attend, but it'd be far riskier than other events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comawhite Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 (edited) It might be a risk, and while it's always nice to hear how low priority this event is (not a knock, it is a small gig but the reminder of it whenever these come up is a little draining), I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the idea. Considering it's popularity with the manic teen market who will immerse themselves in anything sparkly vampire related, I'd say it would be less risky than any other highly paid guest. Pay a fortune for someone from a show with a cult following, some people might come. Pay a fortune for a sparkly vampire with a manic following... you better believe the pace will be filled with irritating teenagers. I hate Twilight, but it's likely the safest bet in any guest line up. Edited January 28, 2010 by ComwWhite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted January 28, 2010 Moderators Share Posted January 28, 2010 I don't think there's any doubt that there'll be people wanting to meet a Twilight guest, it's just whether there'll be enough. Bringing one of the most expensive guests to one of the smallest signing events doesn't really add up at the moment. If it's a repeat guest, there won't be as many people willing to travel, and if it's a first timer then they need to put them at an event that will optimise attendance. Hopefully SM can get to a point where it's viable to at least try one big guest at a Glasgow event and see how it goes. I'm certainly not against the event growing, and I'd love to see it succeed, and it would be great to see the loyal supporters rewarded with a bigger event. It just depends on how long they need to be careful financially I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touchthesky Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 What about a wee tiny guest..a one-liner from Twilight or something lol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyMichaels Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Pay a fortune for someone from a show with a cult following, some people might come. Pay a fortune for a sparkly vampire with a manic following... you better believe the pace will be filled with irritating teenagers. Yeah, but that would make sense, and we can't be having that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 What's the old saying? Speculate to accumulate? Glasgow won't grow unless it's made more attractice to Joe public. Unfortunately it seems that no one is willing to take any risks that MIGHT attract other people. LFCC was overrun last year, apparently this was largely due to... that Doctor guy... from Twilight. Put someone like that in Glasgow and you'll have the crazy Twilight fans turning up in droves. It would be huge. However, I don't like to think how much it would suck for non-Twilight fans. We'd be surrounded by insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyMichaels Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 (edited) What's the old saying? Speculate to accumulate? Glasgow won't grow unless it's made more attractice to Joe public. Unfortunately it seems that no one is willing to take any risks that MIGHT attract other people. However, I don't like to think how much it would suck for non-Twilight fans. We'd be surrounded by insanity. I'd have to skip the event. There would be a massacre. Seriously. Edited January 28, 2010 by MartyMichaels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann+sara+emma+dani Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Yeah, I'd be wary of going, I wouldn't like all the screaming etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touchthesky Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 There wasn't any screaming at LFCC as far as I am aware :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyMichaels Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 There wasn't any screaming at LFCC as far as I am aware :) He'll go unnamed, but I heard a very girly squee from a member of this very board at last year's Glasgow show when the Joker and Harley Quinn costumers walked past. Not a scream, but just as silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
val79 Posted January 28, 2010 Author Share Posted January 28, 2010 yeah there was hardly any screaming at lfcc, think there was only one group of about 4 girls who where screaming, and the others in the que just told them so shut the f up. not all twi fans are screamers, most really get pissed off with them, i under stand the costs, but i know a load of people that would come from all over europe if twi casts where coming, but hey ho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatrixKiddo88 Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 That was my squee lol Sorry guys. And despite my hate of everything Twilight, I do have to say that the two big events (LFCC and CM:L) that had twilight guests didnt elicit fights/riots/screams/deaths at all. If it helps bring people to the event, I say do it. Mean more money for non-twilight guests next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyMichaels Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 (edited) That was my squee lol Sorry guys. And despite my hate of everything Twilight, I do have to say that the two big events (LFCC and CM:L) that had twilight guests didnt elicit fights/riots/screams/deaths at all. If it helps bring people to the event, I say do it. Mean more money for non-twilight guests next time I didn't name names, but he named himself so it's all good. As for bringing Twis***e guests in, I say do it. Like the man said, it'd bring more punters and more punters means more money and more money means better guests and better guests means Richard Hatch (hint hint.) Besides, some of those little goth girls that dig on Twilight are pretty hot. I can mess my hair up and slap on the body glitter just as well as R-Patz can. Edited January 28, 2010 by MartyMichaels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touchthesky Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 yeah there was hardly any screaming at lfcc, think there was only one group of about 4 girls who where screaming, and the others in the que just told them so shut the f up. not all twi fans are screamers, most really get pissed off with them, i under stand the costs, but i know a load of people that would come from all over europe if twi casts where coming, but hey ho It does kinda suck for those of us sane enough to keep our traps shut lol. Were you by any chance in the queue on Sunday for Peters photoshoot when everyone was like "ohh jesus, hes so hot" "yes he is..if i was forty years younger i so would have" "oh god i know" "mm" Haha it was so ammusing to listen to I mean, the man IS gorgeous and all but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyMichaels Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 (edited) "ohh jesus, hes so hot" "yes he is..if i was forty years younger i so would have" "oh god i know" "mm" That's something that really frosts my Twinkies. If a MAN said that about a young girl he'd be called at best a dirty old man and at worst a pedophille, but a WOMAN says it about some young actor from a movie about gay sparkly vampires and it's socially acceptable. WTF is up with that? Edited January 28, 2010 by MartyMichaels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted January 28, 2010 Moderators Share Posted January 28, 2010 What's the old saying? Speculate to accumulate? Glasgow won't grow unless it's made more attractice to Joe public. Unfortunately it seems that no one is willing to take any risks that MIGHT attract other people. It's not been about growth recently though. It has been about creating a stable event that will stick around and then have the potential to grow when finacially appropriate. Now, if we're out of the recession now, and things get back to a good place then I hope they go for it! LFCC was overrun last year, apparently this was largely due to... that Doctor guy... from Twilight. Put someone like that in Glasgow and you'll have the crazy Twilight fans turning up in droves. It would be huge. The main problem with Twilight guests at the moment is that there's a limited pool of ones that are willing and affordable that haven't been before. "That Doctor guy" has done 2 events here now in recent times, so bringing him would probably not be worth it. Would he be popular? Sure, but not as much as others, and probably not enough. It's easy enough for people to suggest bringing these guests in when it's not their money .. seems far less risky then but seriously, I have to believe that people would rather have a long lasting event in Glasgow than 1 single over-spending event that ruins the prospect of any future ones. It's all about timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galaxy-Song Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 I'm sort half and half for this idea, hard core twilight fans do scare me. I consider my self a huge fan of lots of shows but, some twilight fans just go beyond. Would like to meet cast but can't see it happening at Glasgow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touchthesky Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Just won a sparkly edward barbie on ebay. maybe people will pay to meet him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comawhite Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 "Risk is part of the game if you want to sit in that chair." Captain Harriman was careful with his plans. He watched one ship get blown up, lost half the crew of another and let a retired pensioner take control... a pensioner who was then (believed to be) killed. ...the lesson learned? Being cautious only kills Captain Kirk and leads to a mediocre movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyMichaels Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 "Risk is part of the game if you want to sit in that chair." Captain Harriman was careful with his plans. He watched one ship get blown up, lost half the crew of another and let a retired pensioner take control... a pensioner who was then (believed to be) killed. ...the lesson learned? Being cautious only kills Captain Kirk and leads to a mediocre movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampiric_kitten Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 What's the old saying? Speculate to accumulate? Glasgow won't grow unless it's made more attractice to Joe public. Unfortunately it seems that no one is willing to take any risks that MIGHT attract other people. LFCC was overrun last year, apparently this was largely due to... that Doctor guy... from Twilight. Put someone like that in Glasgow and you'll have the crazy Twilight fans turning up in droves. It would be huge. However, I don't like to think how much it would suck for non-Twilight fans. We'd be surrounded by insanity. I'm prob going to get a telling off but i've been biting my tongue for a while so i'm going to give my opinion. I totally agree with you. I don't feel Glasgow is being given a fair chance. Look at the amazing guests the 1st Collectomania London got. I know it's in London but alot of people still travelled over the country for it. There were some majorly huge guests there so surely that must have been a huge risk not knowing if it would be successful. The Glasgow event is still being targeted to a very small cult following whereas the other events have guests who appeal to a much wider audience. Personally I think the 1st Collectormania Glasgow was the best out of them all, it had the most guests I wanted to meet and attend talks for, it was fantastic value for money and an amazing day all in. If i'm 100% honest the last couple i've went along, met the guests I wanted to and then left without spending much time there because there was nothing to hold me. I'm not trying to criticise but I know i'm not the only one who feels we're still being sorely neglected. Being treated like second-class citizens really. Unfortunately I can't afford to travel to many events, doing 2 of the cons this year is wiping out my bank balance but i'm more than happy to support my local event. On the topic of Twilight guests a Glasgow i'm actually kind of ton now. I would like to meet some of them but I may barresed for attempted murder if I had to deal with the screaming hysterical hormonal teenagers. Seeing New Moon in the cinema was bad enough, it's a screen people!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touchthesky Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Argh, why the assumption that people will scream at twilight guests? There was none at lfcc! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galaxy-Song Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 (edited) Argh, why the assumption that people will scream at twilight guests? There was none at lfcc! I geuss it's the storys about the crazy fan that stick in peoples minds and not that like 80% (random number I know) were nice sane polite people. The Hub is usualy the week after Twilight con and you do hear some mad storys about what went on with the fans. But crazy stuff happens at most of these evets I think, Twilight just sticks out for people lol I would like twilight people just for the sake of it might make Glasgow a bigger event. I love it because means I don't have to travel for change. I have traveled quite a bit for these events around the UK if there is some one I really want to meet so I'm sure other people would travel up to Glasgow to do the same. Got a agree with vampiric_kitten that the 1st event has been my fav so far and I didn't even mind being skint after that weekend. Last couple I have gone home with moeny and that just doesn't feel right So back on topic yay for Twilight Edited February 7, 2010 by Galaxy-Song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted February 7, 2010 Moderators Share Posted February 7, 2010 I'm prob going to get a telling off but i've been biting my tongue for a while so i'm going to give my opinion. I totally agree with you. I don't feel Glasgow is being given a fair chance. Look at the amazing guests the 1st Collectomania London got. I know it's in London but alot of people still travelled over the country for it. There were some majorly huge guests there so surely that must have been a huge risk not knowing if it would be successful. The Glasgow event is still being targeted to a very small cult following whereas the other events have guests who appeal to a much wider audience. You answered your own point - "I know it's in London" - that's exactly the point. Not only does it benefit the attendees but also the organisers too. You will get WAY more people willing to travel to London than you will Glasgow. Does it mean you are 'second class citizens'? Not in the slightest. At least you get an event. I know plenty that would love to have any kind of event in their area - especially ones in Manchester, for example, where they had one and it hasn't been done anymore because it lost too much money. I'm not trying to criticise but I know i'm not the only one who feels we're still being sorely neglected. Being treated like second-class citizens really. Unfortunately I can't afford to travel to many events, doing 2 of the cons this year is wiping out my bank balance but i'm more than happy to support my local event. You may well feel like you're being neglected, but if it comes down to a choice of losing the event or being willing to let them do it at their own pace so it survives, surely the logical choice is to keep the event? I don't want anyone thinking that I'm anti-Glasgow because I'm really not. I'm anti destroying a show for the sake of it. People can have all the expectations they want, and all the demands in the world when it's not their money on the line. And it wouldn't just mess up Glasgow but have a knock-on effect onto other events too. If anyone is in the position to try their own event in Glasgow and run things the way they believe would work, then I'd respect anyone's choice to do so. But until it's anyone else's money, I think it's fair to respect Showmasters and their business decisions. If they want to get a Twilight guest, then they will. If they want to get bigger guests, then they will. But if it's not the time to do so, then it's simply something I choose to respect, as they've grown their other events over time successfully and I have no reason to doubt they can do it with this one too when the time is right. There are definitely ways of improving Glasgow and building it up that don't involve throwing a load of money at big guests and wasting it away. So hopefully they'll take those steps and THEN be able to bring more in. But it being in Glasgow may always be a wider issue that Showmasters just can't get around completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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