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[kels]

Aivy88, on Oct 23 2009, 12:13 PM, said:

My favourite slayer is definitely Buffy. There's a reason why a watched the show and it's mainly her.
She's the strongest, because she's been the slayer the longest. I mean come on: she died twice!
Not that I don't love Faith, but Buffy kick's ass, and she's funny doing it. It also has got to do with her character.
Ow, and there's also the fact that she passed all those challanges from the Council which she survived, and the entire season 7, hallo! Get it Done and here choice to make all the potentials Slayers. Faith would have never come up with that idea . (Besides Buffy also kicked Faith's and Kendra's butt. That counts for something).

She did not kick faiths butt!

Each time they have fought faith has held back. In the battle over which slayer got to be angels happy meal Faith was already punishing herself for killing the assistant and she never wanted to be buffys enemy. Faith would have fought on with the stab but the fall from the building was a sacrifice to end the battle.

PLus a stab wound can be fatal if your not in the right frame of mind, as in the finale episode of buffy we seen buffy fall down after a simple stab wound.  She lay down.  Then she was given something to fight for and she got up. Faith had nothing to fight for. She had no friend, no family and knew the evil home she had made for herself wasnt right. As the dress the mayor asked her to put on was like her life. Pretty dress but not for her.

Plus the battle with kendra ended with the words am the slayer.  which brought up the oooooh slayer issues

Edited by kels, 23 October 2009 - 12:45 PM.

[Aivy88]

kels, on Oct 23 2009, 12:44 PM, said:

Aivy88, on Oct 23 2009, 12:13 PM, said:

My favourite slayer is definitely Buffy. There's a reason why a watched the show and it's mainly her.
She's the strongest, because she's been the slayer the longest. I mean come on: she died twice!
Not that I don't love Faith, but Buffy kick's ass, and she's funny doing it. It also has got to do with her character.
Ow, and there's also the fact that she passed all those challanges from the Council which she survived, and the entire season 7, hallo! Get it Done and here choice to make all the potentials Slayers. Faith would have never come up with that idea . (Besides Buffy also kicked Faith's and Kendra's butt. That counts for something).

She did not kick faiths butt!

Each time they have fought faith has held back. In the battle over which slayer got to be angels happy meal Faith was already punishing herself for killing the assistant and she never wanted to be buffys enemy. Faith would have fought on with the stab but the fall from the building was a sacrifice to end the battle.

PLus a stab wound can be fatal if your not in the right frame of mind, as in the finale episode of buffy we seen buffy fall down after a simple stab wound.  She lay down.  Then she was given something to fight for and she got up. Faith had nothing to fight for. She had no friend, no family and knew the evil home she had made for herself wasnt right. As the dress the mayor asked her to put on was like her life. Pretty dress but not for her.

Plus the battle with kendra ended with the words am the slayer.  which brought up the oooooh slayer issues

Sure, but Buffy always knocked here down (for instance: This Years Girl). She did kick Faiths' butt. Even if you try to give a psychological argumentation. It doens't work. Not be stupid or blunt, but Faith had problems from the beginning (her watcher being killed, a not so great mother). And how about in Enemies? Or in Revelations: Buffy is truly the stronger one, the one with the upperhand (it is her show, you know).

And as for the stabwound: sure, but it was dramatic etc. You had to think, even for a moment, that Buffy might actually die again! And it just shows that she was way way stronger (just like coming back from the dead the first time, after she drowned). And Faith lay in a coma!!! Hello! It could have gone the other way.

I'm not trying to say here that Faith could never have one. I'm just saying, that in this show, Buffy was the stronger one. Both Faith and Buffy had psychological issues.

And as for Kendra: I'm not just saying that. For one: buffy is stronger, because Kendra died and Buffy lived. Other than that Buffy stated "I would have kicked your butt in the end". Why do I repeat this frase? Because Buffy has a way of making these sort of things happen (again here show: not that that would be reason enough, but it sure gives a reason).

Just for the record: I don't think any less of Faith. I totally love her character, with all her dept (continuing in Angel).
Sorry if I may have upset you. I know I didn't really elaborate.

[kels]

Aivy88, on Oct 26 2009, 10:37 PM, said:

kels, on Oct 23 2009, 12:44 PM, said:

Aivy88, on Oct 23 2009, 12:13 PM, said:

My favourite slayer is definitely Buffy. There's a reason why a watched the show and it's mainly her.
She's the strongest, because she's been the slayer the longest. I mean come on: she died twice!
Not that I don't love Faith, but Buffy kick's ass, and she's funny doing it. It also has got to do with her character.
Ow, and there's also the fact that she passed all those challanges from the Council which she survived, and the entire season 7, hallo! Get it Done and here choice to make all the potentials Slayers. Faith would have never come up with that idea . (Besides Buffy also kicked Faith's and Kendra's butt. That counts for something).

She did not kick faiths butt!

Each time they have fought faith has held back. In the battle over which slayer got to be angels happy meal Faith was already punishing herself for killing the assistant and she never wanted to be buffys enemy. Faith would have fought on with the stab but the fall from the building was a sacrifice to end the battle.

PLus a stab wound can be fatal if your not in the right frame of mind, as in the finale episode of buffy we seen buffy fall down after a simple stab wound.  She lay down.  Then she was given something to fight for and she got up. Faith had nothing to fight for. She had no friend, no family and knew the evil home she had made for herself wasnt right. As the dress the mayor asked her to put on was like her life. Pretty dress but not for her.

Plus the battle with kendra ended with the words am the slayer.  which brought up the oooooh slayer issues

Sure, but Buffy always knocked here down (for instance: This Years Girl). She did kick Faiths' butt. Even if you try to give a psychological argumentation. It doens't work. Not be stupid or blunt, but Faith had problems from the beginning (her watcher being killed, a not so great mother). And how about in Enemies? Or in Revelations: Buffy is truly the stronger one, the one with the upperhand (it is her show, you know).

And as for the stabwound: sure, but it was dramatic etc. You had to think, even for a moment, that Buffy might actually die again! And it just shows that she was way way stronger (just like coming back from the dead the first time, after she drowned). And Faith lay in a coma!!! Hello! It could have gone the other way.

I'm not trying to say here that Faith could never have one. I'm just saying, that in this show, Buffy was the stronger one. Both Faith and Buffy had psychological issues.

And as for Kendra: I'm not just saying that. For one: buffy is stronger, because Kendra died and Buffy lived. Other than that Buffy stated "I would have kicked your butt in the end". Why do I repeat this frase? Because Buffy has a way of making these sort of things happen (again here show: not that that would be reason enough, but it sure gives a reason).

Just for the record: I don't think any less of Faith. I totally love her character, with all her dept (continuing in Angel).
Sorry if I may have upset you. I know I didn't really elaborate.

no you didnt upset me  


I think you hammer home a point. Its buffy show so her flaws are better and she can beat everyone.   Which is why i referenced that faith was a stronger character on Angel. Not buffys show so she was a stronger character and fighter. Then we saw her go back to being the faith of poor judgement and lack luster fighting.

Also for the stabbing issue. Faith didnt just get stabbed in the stomach. She fought and fell from the building onto a metal truck/lorry.

One of the main issues with the slayers strenght has always been variable.

[Aivy88]

kels, on Oct 27 2009, 10:12 AM, said:

Aivy88, on Oct 26 2009, 10:37 PM, said:

kels, on Oct 23 2009, 12:44 PM, said:

Aivy88, on Oct 23 2009, 12:13 PM, said:

My favourite slayer is definitely Buffy. There's a reason why a watched the show and it's mainly her.
She's the strongest, because she's been the slayer the longest. I mean come on: she died twice!
Not that I don't love Faith, but Buffy kick's ass, and she's funny doing it. It also has got to do with her character.
Ow, and there's also the fact that she passed all those challanges from the Council which she survived, and the entire season 7, hallo! Get it Done and here choice to make all the potentials Slayers. Faith would have never come up with that idea . (Besides Buffy also kicked Faith's and Kendra's butt. That counts for something).

She did not kick faiths butt!

Each time they have fought faith has held back. In the battle over which slayer got to be angels happy meal Faith was already punishing herself for killing the assistant and she never wanted to be buffys enemy. Faith would have fought on with the stab but the fall from the building was a sacrifice to end the battle.

PLus a stab wound can be fatal if your not in the right frame of mind, as in the finale episode of buffy we seen buffy fall down after a simple stab wound.  She lay down.  Then she was given something to fight for and she got up. Faith had nothing to fight for. She had no friend, no family and knew the evil home she had made for herself wasnt right. As the dress the mayor asked her to put on was like her life. Pretty dress but not for her.

Plus the battle with kendra ended with the words am the slayer.  which brought up the oooooh slayer issues

Sure, but Buffy always knocked here down (for instance: This Years Girl). She did kick Faiths' butt. Even if you try to give a psychological argumentation. It doens't work. Not be stupid or blunt, but Faith had problems from the beginning (her watcher being killed, a not so great mother). And how about in Enemies? Or in Revelations: Buffy is truly the stronger one, the one with the upperhand (it is her show, you know).

And as for the stabwound: sure, but it was dramatic etc. You had to think, even for a moment, that Buffy might actually die again! And it just shows that she was way way stronger (just like coming back from the dead the first time, after she drowned). And Faith lay in a coma!!! Hello! It could have gone the other way.

I'm not trying to say here that Faith could never have one. I'm just saying, that in this show, Buffy was the stronger one. Both Faith and Buffy had psychological issues.

And as for Kendra: I'm not just saying that. For one: buffy is stronger, because Kendra died and Buffy lived. Other than that Buffy stated "I would have kicked your butt in the end". Why do I repeat this frase? Because Buffy has a way of making these sort of things happen (again here show: not that that would be reason enough, but it sure gives a reason).

Just for the record: I don't think any less of Faith. I totally love her character, with all her dept (continuing in Angel).
Sorry if I may have upset you. I know I didn't really elaborate.

no you didnt upset me  


I think you hammer home a point. Its buffy show so her flaws are better and she can beat everyone.   Which is why i referenced that faith was a stronger character on Angel. Not buffys show so she was a stronger character and fighter. Then we saw her go back to being the faith of poor judgement and lack luster fighting.

Also for the stabbing issue. Faith didnt just get stabbed in the stomach. She fought and fell from the building onto a metal truck/lorry.

One of the main issues with the slayers strenght has always been variable.

Have to agree with you on that one

[Captain Mal]

I can't believe im still the only person who voted for Fray, shes awesome!

[crucio]

Would have to say Buffy. But the one that had me thinking the most was Dana from "Damage" , cutting Spikes hands off WTF , scary stuff!!!!!

[sol9999]

wanted to say Buffy, but I voted for Faith..... it's like you will never realize what you've gor unless you loose it and have to faight to get it back. For me Faith went all the way down and did climb back up in the end, and that makes her a SLAYER for me