andy1911 Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 Quick Question why are you not able to get a digital copy of the photo? say in a email rather than getting it posted out if you cant wait to pick it up? or even as an option to go along with your copy you got one emailed out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyMichaels Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 Quick Question why are you not able to get a digital copy of the photo? say in a email rather than getting it posted out if you cant wait to pick it up? or even as an option to go along with your copy you got one emailed out? Cause it's hard to get an email autographed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1911 Posted August 29, 2009 Author Share Posted August 29, 2009 then you just take the hard copy, my question is why is there no option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyMichaels Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 (edited) then you just take the hard copy, my question is why is there no option? Cause it's a pain in the @rse to have to send dozens (hundreds?) of emails, probably having to read the email addresses from a list written in dozens of different people's handwriting, then having to deal with complaints from people because the email was sent to the wrong address due to the some people's handwriting being close to indesipherable or someone miskeying the email address or a computer problem or a million other reasons and then having to give people their money back and potentially losing business. Edited August 29, 2009 by MartyMichaels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1911 Posted August 29, 2009 Author Share Posted August 29, 2009 (edited) so just cause you are lazy and cant take 2 mins to think of another way to get email adresses other than writing them down? you could simply say give it as an option like when you get your photo done you get a number and if you would like to have an additional digital copy sent out to you you email with your photo number ect dont shoot down ideas just cause you can only think of the negative. or upload all pics to a server for us to get on our own. Edited August 29, 2009 by andy1911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anniekins Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 (edited) Hi, I think the option to purchase on CD would be nice and/or a collection of of professional photographs of your selected Guest. I know I would definately be interested in buying a professional photographic shoot of my preferred Guest/s. Ann xx Edited August 29, 2009 by anniekins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyMichaels Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 so just cause you are lazy and cant take 2 mins to think of another way to get email adresses other than writing them down? you could simply say give it as an option like when you get your photo done you get a number and if you would like to have an additional digital copy sent out to you you email with your photo number ect dont shoot down ideas just cause you can only think of the negative. or upload all pics to a server for us to get on our own. Enlighten me. How, pray, would you suggest collecting a list of email addresses without writing a single thing down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1911 Posted August 30, 2009 Author Share Posted August 30, 2009 so just cause you are lazy and cant take 2 mins to think of another way to get email adresses other than writing them down? you could simply say give it as an option like when you get your photo done you get a number and if you would like to have an additional digital copy sent out to you you email with your photo number ect dont shoot down ideas just cause you can only think of the negative. or upload all pics to a server for us to get on our own. Enlighten me. How, pray, would you suggest collecting a list of email addresses without writing a single thing down? wow did you not read the reply that you quoted? reread the second line incase you did not understand i will dumb it down for you 1, you pay for a photoshoot at which time you are issued a number 2, said number is what you need to keep a hold of if you wish to recieve a copy via email 3, when you get home if you wish to get your e-copy you email the number issued to you to a set email addy which would then send you your digital copy of your photo to the email you sent the number in from thus negating missspelled email errors. if this is 2 much you would have one person writing down the email addresses from the ones who wish to have a further copy now unless that person cant read there own writing you should have no problem using the info provided, and god forbid you type it in a notebook or laptop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyMichaels Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) incase you did not understand i will dumb it down for you You're too kind. I really appreciate that you would take time out of your busy schedule to dumb down your posts so that we, the unwashed proletariat masses, can understand your genius. From the bottom of our hearts we thank you, sir. "In case" is two words, by the way. I guess that quite neatly defines "irony." Anyway, the point is moot because, in either case, your master plan would still create more work for someone, be it the person who has to send out the emails or the person who has to upload every picture taken onto a server. I wasn't shooting down the idea because I was only thinking about the negatives (something you failed to do, incidentally) I was shooting down the idea because, as ideas go, it's pretty poor. I have no idea how many pictures get taken in a day at a Showmasters event, but I would imagine it's quite a few. Possibly even into the hundreds at a big show like London. If only half of those people want an emailed copy of their picture, that's gonna take a long-ass time to open all those emails, process the number, find the file, attach the file and send - and even longer to upload every last one of them onto a server. Someone doing a job that takes so long isn't gonna do it for free now, are they? With times being what they are, I can't see any company in the world having someone on payroll to do a job that is almost completley unnessecary - not to mention the cost of the server. if this is 2 much you would have one person writing down the email addresses from the ones who wish to have a further copy now unless that person cant read there own writing you should have no problem using the info provided, and god forbid you type it in a notebook or laptop. And God forbid you should use a full stop or a capital letter anywhere in that mess of a post. Here's the bottom line. Showmasters do business the way Showmasters do business and take it from someone who knows - it's gonna take a helluva lot more than a poorly punctuated, half-baked idea to change that. Sorry, let me dumb that down for you: deal with it. One last thing: if you read all that, then you get a gold star. Congratulations. Edited August 30, 2009 by MartyMichaels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talie Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 DO I GET A GOLD STAR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1911 Posted August 30, 2009 Author Share Posted August 30, 2009 Oh my have i annoyed you well it would actually only take around half an hour to upload 100's of pics onto a server and clearly you have never heard of a database where the emails would be sent out automaticly. And i dumbed it down not for the masses just for you. And it just shows how weak your argument is when you have to respond by having a dig at punctuation and the use of capital letters. (which is generaly something you do when you cant actualy think of anything better to say) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen_Sindel Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) hi Andy, This question is coming up frequently after an event. There's several reasons why Showmasters don't provide the digital files, one of them being indeed that it is a lot of work. At larger shows like LFCC there's not only several hundreds of pictures, but it's more going well over thousand. I see what you mean with the uploading in a data base and the e-mailing. But still you would have to match every e-mail to the number in the database (At least I am not aware of any system that would pull the file automatically, I apologize if I am missing something there.), and that is time consuming. The maximum tickets sold for a photo session are 400. Now imagine a show with three Twilight guests doing photo sessions both days and you will hit the 1000 mark very easy just with those three, and well over half of the fans would want the files there. Another suggestion in the past has been uploading all pictures on a website and allow an open download from there. That of course cuts out the work part, but that would mean you could get hold of everyone's photos. I can definitely see the con points for that option. I know there are some organisers that provide digital files, namely one in the US comes to mind there. The photographer who's doing the photo sessions there sends the pictures out there and gets to keep the money. That is because the photographer still has the copyright to the photos he takes. (Malcolm is a nice guy and won't sue a fan because he posts an image online, but technically he still has the copyright to the photo and would have a say. ) With the digital image you sort of get the copyright release. A digital file costs you $ 10 there. There may be some point in the future where the files will be available. But at the moment it is very unlikely to happen, sorry. Edited August 30, 2009 by Queen_Sindel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1911 Posted August 30, 2009 Author Share Posted August 30, 2009 Thx for the info Queen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzy88 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 For now, without getting a digital copy, just scan it in. It achieves pretty much the same end - granted, it's not as great quality as a digital copy, but it means it is on your computer. I'd love to be able to have a digital copy - but it really doesn't seem like something we're likely to get in the near future, so I'm just happy with the hard copy we do get and that we have the opportunity to get one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyMichaels Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 ^What Queen Sindel said. And yes, Crepescule, of course you get a gold star cause you're awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andker08 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 I like anniekins idea of being able to purchase the photographs CD, and while I know it would generate more work for the team, it may also generate more income, as I'm sure some guests would like it especially if the CD had some sort of unique Collectormania label. When I get home from all of these shows I have to spend (some times a lot) of time scanning all of my autographs and photo shoots just so I have a back up copy of them all in case something bad happened to the originals. Personally I wouldn't want them emailed to me, as I imagine that they may be of a lower resolution in order to sent such a number to (in theory) a lot of guest. I also have a slow broadband connection and would take a while for me to download them, but good idea none the less and one that maybe suitable for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiandra Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 @ MartyMichaels - pointing out that someone has typed 'incase' instead of 'in case' is a bit hypocritical when you yourself spell the word 'indecipherable' as 'indesipherable'. It's called the Oxford English Dictionary - available from all good stockists... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenshayde Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Oh dear. Check your spelling/punctuation/grammar at the door people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted August 30, 2009 Moderators Share Posted August 30, 2009 If we can keep the discussion to the pros/cons of photo shoot emailing, rather than picking apart spelling, that would be great thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyMichaels Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) @ MartyMichaels - pointing out that someone has typed 'incase' instead of 'in case' is a bit hypocritical when you yourself spell the word 'indecipherable' as 'indesipherable'. It's called the Oxford English Dictionary - available from all good stockists... "In case" - a common, everyday term made up of two short, simple to spell words. "Indecipherable" - a reasonably uncommon and reasonably long word, made up of some fourteen letters and an absolute bloody pain in the @rse to spell at half one in the morning. Edited August 30, 2009 by MartyMichaels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talie Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I don't think people realise that SM/ME have more than one event like, as soon as they've finished one they're moving onto another, arranging guests, flights etc.... whilst it may only take so and so time it's still extra work for a system that works fine. AND YAS on the gold star front, my mother will be oh so proud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzy88 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Just to add a bit more of my opinion to this, I wouldn't want my photo(s) from photoshoot(s) available to other people. This in itself (along with a lot of other people who would most likely feel the same as me) causes problems in regards to a CD type thing. If I pay for my photo, I wouldn't want it available to other people because I pay for mine, not for it to be given to other people on CD or whatever. Because getting it for just me then it's special. If it's shared with 400+ people then it's not as special as it's not as individual and exclusive. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anniekins Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hi Lizzy88, I agree, I don't think it should just be given gratis either, after all it is a business, to which support should be given. Hence why I think the option of buying the Photograph CD would be nice. I, maybe, did not make myself clear. what I was suggesting was being given the option of having your own Photo shoot and the Photo shoot of the Preferred Guest, ( you know the part at the end where just the guest on their own is taken in various poses), being offered for sale. I personally would not like my image to be made available to all and sundry, for personal and employment contractual reasons. I think it would be easier to compile the CD and would not be as complicated, due to the fact that I noticed the computer behind the Professional Photographer, with one of the Crew members actually working on someone's photo. Therefore I think it wouldn't take to much effort to compile maybe one, or two, copies of your image with Guest, and maybe some images of the Guest in various poses on their own onto CD. I definately think though that this would be a bonus or extra service to which a payment should be required. Ann xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted September 1, 2009 Moderators Share Posted September 1, 2009 The person on the computer is working all day to make sure all the photos are as good as they can be before they go off to the printers. Consider the amount of photos they take, and how much of an effort that could be, and throwing in something else to do isn't really viable. Even the simple task of sorting out which photos to print and which to email would take extra time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anniekins Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hi David, You have a valid point regarding the emailing. I just remember at other entertainment, that this was an option, albeit with a VIP package that you purchased, there is a photograhic CD included. Maybe it's time to allow the option of VIP packages at Glasgow, but that is purely up to the Organisers, as they know when and if this is viable at the moment in Glasgow. Maybe it's too soon for the VIP packages, I don't know. Maybe its not possible in the time frame, but hopefully an option in the future Glasgow shows. Ann xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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