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[Sazzzy]

Of wen you'll know a date for this...

[vintageSW77]

Are we to give in and just accept this show isnt happening.
It appears all attention will be with the Red Dwarf show in June so it looks like we wont get it then.
I hope the RD con is a success as there will be a few peed off mancs if a specialist show that has failed before is given the go over a manc show.

Edited by vintageSW77, 30 January 2009 - 10:38 PM.

[DavidB]

They already had Collectormania in MK in June way before BTL was announced anyway, so I don't think anyone needs to be thinking BTL is going ahead over the Manchester event.

[Sazzzy]

it does kinda suck that there dropping this could at least announce it!

[DavidB]

It doesn't necessarily mean they are. It's just like when they come across guest problems - they'll do absolutely everything they can to try and work it out before finally admitting defeat as such.

The Red Dwarf con is taking place between the two biggest shows of the year - MK's first stadium one, and LFACC. It's a simpler and cheaper con to put on though with pretty much all UK based people, and a hotel that they're familiar with etc.

Manchester, if it does happen, probably wouldn't be best placed in between those events as it'd need more attention and effort than they could give it there imo. But as with any con, it's as much down to what dates are available working with when guests are.

[nadatron]

Even a rough idea of the date must be known by SM or else how have they already apparently booked guests for this and put them on the leaflets given out at earlier cons for Manchester?


In fact, even if we cant get a date, not even a roundabout month, then we just need to know if this is on or off.

Surely it's in SM's best interests as a business to let us know asap whether this is on or not; I can't be the only one who has planned sidelined cash for this event, so if SM cancel it too late towards summer when we cant make other arrangements for the other events because of notice for holidays etc, then they will lose out on this money, which if they tell us now yea or nay we can plan ahead for use on other events.

[awf]

nadatron, on Jan 31 2009, 11:20 AM, said:

Even a rough idea of the date must be known by SM or else how have they already apparently booked guests for this and put them on the leaflets given out at earlier cons for Manchester?


In fact, even if we cant get a date, not even a roundabout month, then we just need to know if this is on or off.

Surely it's in SM's best interests as a business to let us know asap whether this is on or not; I can't be the only one who has planned sidelined cash for this event, so if SM cancel it too late towards summer when we cant make other arrangements for the other events because of notice for holidays etc, then they will lose out on this money, which if they tell us now yea or nay we can plan ahead for use on other events.

i thought the problem was a venue for the show due to the costs of hiring the the gmex they were looking for an alternative place to hold the show what about moving it to bolton at the football stadium i think has an number of collectors fairs during the year
i think the way its going it wont be held unless they try and fudge something together at the last minute

[vintageSW77]

And now live from Bolton .........................its Collectormania MANCHESTER!!

Fudge something at the last minuite?
Wasnt this announced last summer?

Heres whats on this year through the summer at the Gmex dunno if any of these fall on a wknd-

Landlord & Buy-to-let Show 2009 - 5th & 6th June
UK Radiological Congress 2009 - 6th - 10th June
Traffic Management & Parking Conference & Exhibition 2009 - 11th June
Macular Disease Society Regional Conference, Manchester - 13th June
CIPFA Annual Conference - 23rd - 25th June
Kids Fun Ideas Show 2009 - 27th & 28th June
National Osteoporosis Society Conference 2009 - 28th June - 1st July
Manchester Furniture Show - 19th - 22nd July

Edited by vintageSW77, 01 February 2009 - 04:01 PM.

[Sazzzy]

would be good to get an idea... but meh.
i have a feeling this con aint gunna happen.

[awf]

i dont think theres a chance of it being held .between other show dates and venue dates looks slim
date ?
venue?
cost ?
guests?

am sure its been canceled twice before


to vintage sw77 they done it for glasgow
anounced it year before and it took about 3 weeks before it to get any information from them the last one a xmas some guy tried to help them and got nothing but   a load of stick for it

[Sazzzy]

you have a good point..

[zebredy]

Personally I think there putting on too many shows at once (this has nothing to do with whether I could afford them or not)

They do not need to run a show every single weekend of the year ( I know there not) but if feels like thats what they are trying to do. And this is regardless of whether some of there shows might suffer in the process, with less guest being announced, guests being announced to late for some people to get time off work to come, or dates being changed so often that people are not sure whether if they book the time off work they will be the actual dates the event will end up being help on.

It doesn't work in SMs favour to do this, it is bad customer service, and thats not good for a business like this, especially when they rely on people like us to keep there business going...







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[liremaer]

why not keep it in november when there are no events??? Surely this wouldit more business???

[nadatron]

You'd think that in a time of recession, where innumerous companies are going bust because of declining markets, especially in the service industry, that a company wouldn't **** about a decent number of its main customer base.

But apparently not, and even if Showmasters have made a tactical business decision to ditch Manchester and focus on possibly more profitable ventures, then it is still poor policy to ignore such as basic question of "yes or no" from customers who, if getting the "no" early enough, could then go on to pass their custom onto these other events.

To be honest I don't think we will get an answer until late summer, either weeks before if its a yes, or an eternal lingering "maybe" before a final admission if it's a no. Which would be pointless either way.

And if the views of previous posts by Showmasters are to be read, I can already predict what their likely response will be.... "we're busy, so like it or lump it / we make the rules, either go to the show or don't go, we don't really care". Oh and not to forget accusing all those who ask for a date or get frustrated with being ignored as being "trouble causers".

No doubt Showmaster's first response will now only be an attack on people pushing for a response rather than addressing their issue, or banning/suspending people who have posted their frustration on this.


But its not like there are no other companies out there offering decent events with decent guests and decent notice of events....

[Sazzzy]

that a little..no way to harsh, im sure when sm know they'll tells us?

[i_am_your_angel_of_music]

I hope they do keep manchester cause its nice having an inbetween place thats close to home...glasgow is way too far and Mk and even the midlands is a bit of a hike...its nice havin somewhere not too far and in between glasgow and the others x

[MikeDonovan]

Why is it some people on here can't cope without having their lives mapped out 12 months in advance? Do you know what you're having for dinner next Thursday? Are you so completely OCD that you can't bear not knowing what you're doing on the 9th August???

Seriously, you need to chill out a little bit. Personally I expect this event to be cancelled, but in all honesty you're just going to have to wait and see. If it happens, great, if it doesn't, so be it.

[Psychosis]

MikeDonovan, on Feb 25 2009, 09:38 AM, said:

Why is it some people on here can't cope without having their lives mapped out 12 months in advance? Do you know what you're having for dinner next Thursday? Are you so completely OCD that you can't bear not knowing what you're doing on the 9th August???

Seriously, you need to chill out a little bit. Personally I expect this event to be cancelled, but in all honesty you're just going to have to wait and see. If it happens, great, if it doesn't, so be it.

I've known workplaces wanting time off to be booked six months in advance

[Sazzzy]

yeh mines liek that we had to book september 08 to get the holidays we wnated for 09

[nadatron]

It's about booking holiday time.

You can scoff all you like about people having to plan ahead, but it is good to know where you will be, what time off you require (if any) and how long you have to put some funds aside.

If you were going abroad for a weekend holiday for example, would you get your details now, or just hop off to the travel agents a week before and hope they have something you want and that you can afford?

You're lucky (if you're a full time worker of course) if your holiday booking procedure is simple and gives allowance for relatively short notice.

You're also lucky, especially in present times, if you can find a stash of spare cash at short notice to be able to attend such an event.

Unfortunately for many people the above two are simply not the case. We need time to get our holidays booked in, and possibly time to save up or spread a few plans out in order to maximize what we can afford.

I'd like to know for example, if I have to try and get more holiday booked off certain summer months already filling up our holiday calendar (we can only have 2 members of staff off on any 1 day) , or if I can go to another event in August for example, or will I need to save especially to avoid having to split funds with another within short time span.



So no, it's not about OCD, or about planning meticulous details like what snack I might have at 11.06am on the second day of the event. It's just about knowing the very basic general details like when (and if) it will be so I can find out if I can be there, or whether I can arrange to be somewhere else.