more guest for this event to come soon

[showmasters]

just to let you know we are working on guests for this event and will have some news on them soon we hope to have around 10 to 12 in total

 

jason

[dufresne]

Just like C14 - cool !

[TurkFox]

Yay!

 

Just like C14 - cool !

 

One word - LOL

[Princess83]

I have been worried about how many guests might be there so thanks for giving us a hint! Looking forward to seeing who else you get, and hoping none of the current ones planned don't end up having to cancel.

[Tina]

WOW! That's great news. Thanks.

[Emma_Adams]

Yay!

But dont the tickets allow for up to 6 autographs? That means choosing between the guests XD

[Queen_Sindel]

Yay!

But dont the tickets allow for up to 6 autographs? That means choosing between the guests XD

 

I'd think you can still get autographs of all guests, but you'd have to pay extra if you want more than 6.

[vampireslayer3]

Could we please have Showmasters confirm how it will work with regards to autographs if we get more than six guests?

 

- Will we get six autographs from specific guests, and have to pay for the rest (provided we want them)?

- Will we get six autographs from whichever guests we want, and have to pay for the rest (provided we want them)?

- Will we actually get one free autograph from every guest, no matter the number?

 

Personally I feel we should get the last option, simply because almost every other similarly priced full weekend convention company in the UK gives you one free autograph from every guest (except bonus guests) with your ticket price.

 

Obviously if we do only get six that is fair enough, as that's what we paid for, however I would find it strange that for a similar price we get less than most other conventions. Especially seeing as guests for The Hub will be UK based, meaning the travel costs for them will be substantially less.

 

An example I'm thinking of is another companies Serenity/Battlestar Galactica convention in April 2008. Tickets were around £80, there were 10 guests (all flown in from either the US or Canada), and you got free autographs from all of them except possibly one bonus guest.

Edited August 29, 2008 by vampireslayer3

[BondageBarbie]

Can't wait!

 

(and thanks for the update SM)

[DavidB]

Obviously if we do only get six that is fair enough, as that's what we paid for, however I would find it strange that for a similar price we get less than most other conventions. Especially seeing as guests for The Hub will be UK based, meaning the travel costs for them will be substantially less.

Travel costs perhaps, but does anyone know the other costs involved? Not really. Hotel costs, appearance fees etc. There's a huge amount of different expenditures that none of us know the details about.

 

If people are happy to pay that money for 'up to 6 guests', which they apparently are, then perhaps the organiser makes a little more money than the others. I think that's a pretty sensible business move.

 

It's not really like a supermarket price match system or anything.

[dufresne]

So you are championing organiser's profit over attendee's value for money ?

[loulou]

Fanblinkintastic news! Roll on October!

[kingbantam]

So you are championing organiser's profit over attendee's value for money ?

 

I suspect at least one of the guests is very expensive and the organiser presumably does at least need to break even. I guess this is one of the ways they can do that without putting the prices up. 6 autos seems fair to me put into context of what they would cost at a Collectormania or something (assuming that it will be for the bigger name guests and not just the supporting acts..and I have no reason to think that this would not be the case). As someone else said, the organiser hasn't made a secret of the terms applying to the tickets.

 

Personally I don't particularly want any autos so I guess its easy for me to be reasonably ambivalent about this issue. I do feel its pretty fair though. I bought my gold ticket to assure a reasonable seat for the talks, but obviously having paid for them I will use them as it would be daft not to do so.

 

just to let you know we are working on guests for this event and will have some news on them soon we hope to have around 10 to 12 in total

 

jason

 

Crosses fingers for Gareth David-Lloyd and Matt Rippy.

[DavidB]

So you are championing organiser's profit over attendee's value for money ?

I wouldn't put it like that. I'm not against an organiser wanting to make a profit from an event. I know I'd want to if I was in charge of something ..

 

You get some people complaining about the costs of things etc, and saying the organisers are only in it for the money, when it's like crime of the century or something. Is it? Realistically, an organiser has to try and break even, and we're unaware of the costs involved. And any profit will roll forward into other events.

 

The Hub represents good value for money in comparison to Showmasters signing events, and it's also in line with the majority of other Massive Events conventions. If this event being a Torchwood one means it's easier and cheaper to get guests, then the organisers may well make more money on this one, and fair play to them. It doesn't mean they should have to drop prices or increase what's on offer.

 

If another organiser chooses to offer more then that's up to them really. I'm all for value for money as much as the next person, but I see the business side as well. Jason and others like to say they're not in it for the money, and I believe that - I know some events really aren't the profit makers that attendees see them as - but for the whole schedule of shows to carry on, they need to make money where they can.

[vampireslayer3]

As I said in my original post, it is completely fair that we only get six autographs as this was stated when we booked. However I HOPE we get more than six (if there are more guests) because with other similar events you ordinarily get the same number of free autographs as there are guests.

 

I would simply like to have Showmasters confirm how it will work with regards to autographs if we get more than six guests, just so us attendees can budget. (Also, informing attendees of what they will and will not get is always the best policy. There's no need to keep these things secret.)

[Too Tall]

vampireslayer3,

 

I'm aware "the other organiser" has had events with more than 6 guests but it is still not the norm for them all to be included in the price. I've been to one of their events which had 8 guests and was told that 2 were "special guests" and so would not be included.

 

No events are prefect, if they were there wouldn't be any competition. So let's not get in to a one organiser is better than the other argument. It will never get us anywhere.

 

I'm very aware of where your allegiance lie. That's fine and I have no issue at all with that, but is it really necessary to come on here and be negative about what should be a positive announcement? Do you see me doing the same over on the other organisers forum? No.

 

Please just try and be happy that Jason has said there will be 10 to 12 guests and wait for a further announcement to see if there will be an extra charge for them "before" you start criticising!

 

You have asked a valid question as to whether the extra guests will be included in the ticket price. It would have been great if you could have left it there but no. You have to continue and make your post into a "well other events are better value" post. Especially with the "They're UK based so we should get more!" statement. You seemed to be happy that there were to be 6 guests but now there maybe 10 you suddenly feel that 6 isn't really enough and all 10 should be included, why is that?

 

You are a costumer and are free to have your say. Please just try and look at this as a glass half "full" situation.

[ganamor13]

This is my first convention outside the US so I can only speak about what happens here. Some of the conventions I've gone to had autographs from all the guests, but I've been to conventions where everything was extra. Personally I'm happy with 6 autographs and if I want more I would pay for them.

[vampireslayer3]

I'm aware "the other organiser" has had events with more than 6 guests but it is still not the norm for them all to be included in the price. I've been to one of their events which had 8 guests and was told that 2 were "special guests" and so would not be included.

I was not referring to one organiser; I was referring to a number of UK organisers. And if you read my original post in this thread, I did state that most other organisers give you one autograph for free EXCEPT for bonus guests.

 

No events are prefect, if they were there wouldn't be any competition. So let's not get in to a one organiser is better than the other argument. It will never get us anywhere.

Please, I did not do that. Nowhere did I say Showmasters would be 'not as good' as anyone else, and I did state that it is completely fair if we get no more than six free autographs as that is is what we paid for.

 

I'm very aware of where your allegiance lie. That's fine and I have no issue at all with that, but is it really necessary to come on here and be negative about what should be a positive announcement? Do you see me doing the same over on the other organisers forum? No.

Excuse me, where was I negative? I was merely stating what I feel we should get in our ticket price at this convention, in the event that more than six guests are announced, because it is similarly priced to most other UK conventions (for the numerous organisers I have listed above), and therefore would like to get the same value for money.

 

I did mention an example of a Serenity/Battlestar event; that was a bad call. Maybe instead I should have mentioned a Showmasters/Tenth Planet event I went to with at least 10 UK based guests, at a similar ticket price to The Hub, with one free autograph per guest.

 

Again, I am not trying to say anyone is 'better' than anyone else; I am simply stating my thoughts based on similar events. As a ticket holder for The Hub I feel I have a right to draw comparisons and hope we get more than six. At no point did I state that I was disappointed with getting six free autographs, and at no point did I complain.

 

Please just try and be happy that Jason has said there will be 10 to 12 guests and wait for a further announcement to see if there will be an extra charge for them "before" you start criticising!

Please point to me where I criticised anything. I have re-read my posts and can only find myself hoping for more... is that so bad?

 

You seemed to be happy that there were to be 6 guests but now there maybe 10 you suddenly feel that 6 isn't really enough and all 10 should be included, why is that?

I am happy with however many guests are announced, and (as I have stated before) I am happy with six free autographs. I have never said that six is not enough, so please don't put words in my mouth.

[Ship01]

You have asked a valid question as to whether the extra guests will be included in the ticket price. It would have been great if you could have left it there but no. You have to continue and make your post into a "well other events are better value" post. Especially with the "They're UK based so we should get more!" statement.

 

Sometimes when people ask a question they back it up with information to further clarify what answer they would like. Like if I asked my dad what's for tea and I add that I fancy chips. I've asked a valid question but gave him information so he can answer the question more specifically. So I think you may have jumped onto that post a little more harshly than if you didn't know who posted it and saw more of an attack in it than was intended.

[Too Tall]

You have asked a valid question as to whether the extra guests will be included in the ticket price. It would have been great if you could have left it there but no. You have to continue and make your post into a "well other events are better value" post. Especially with the "They're UK based so we should get more!" statement.

 

Sometimes when people ask a question they back it up with information to further clarify what answer they would like. Like if I asked my dad what's for tea and I add that I fancy chips. I've asked a valid question but gave him information so he can answer the question more specifically. So I think you may have jumped onto that post a little more harshly than if you didn't know who posted it and saw more of an attack in it than was intended.

That is a fair comment.

 

vampireslayer3 - Having re-read this thread I do appear to have read (incorrectly) between the lines. And read more into what you wrote than you intended. Please accept my apolagies.

 

PS: As you know it's against forum rules the name events or organisations not affiliated with Showmasters so I have had to remove them from your post.

[Jewels1987]

It's lovely to hear that we maybe getting more guests!!! Bring them on and lets all have a blast come that weekend!!! XD

[vampireslayer3]

Having re-read this thread I do appear to have read (incorrectly) between the lines. And read more into what you wrote than you intended. Please accept my apolagies.

Thank you.

 

PS: As you know it's against forum rules the name events or organisations not affiliated with Showmasters so I have had to remove them from your post.

I did try and keep their names out of my post by using asterisks, so apologies if that is still breaking the rules. I didn't realise it'd count :)

 

Now, back to the topic. I'm very happy there'll likely be more guests... also, if Showmasters have time I would love to hear what the rules on free autographs will be if we do get more than six. Just so I can work out how much I'll need to spend

[Johhanneh]

Having re-read this thread I do appear to have read (incorrectly) between the lines. And read more into what you wrote than you intended. Please accept my apolagies.

Thank you.

 

PS: As you know it's against forum rules the name events or organisations not affiliated with Showmasters so I have had to remove them from your post.

I did try and keep their names out of my post by using asterisks, so apologies if that is still breaking the rules. I didn't realise it'd count :)

 

Now, back to the topic. I'm very happy there'll likely be more guests... also, if Showmasters have time I would love to hear what the rules on free autographs will be if we do get more than six. Just so I can work out how much I'll need to spend

 

Hi - I do agree that other organisers would give one autograph per guest (except for bonuses) BUT it's swings and roundabouts. At no other convention I've been to have photo ops been included in the price (and I'm assuming that's for 6 as well, which personally I think is great value. If we get 10 - 12 guests, even if none of the others are main cast, I'm MORE than happy.

 

What I would absolutely LOVE (and some others do have it) is an evening cabaret featuring a guest or guests. C'mon - let's have John give us a mini concert :) :) :) I'm sure he'd be up for it, and I've never seen him in concert!

 

Jo

[vampireslayer3]

At no other convention I've been to have photo ops been included in the price

Sorry, I don't mean to cause an argument here or anything, but for the standard tickets (which are the price comparisons I've been referring to) there are no photo ops included.

 

As a side note, I do think the silver tickets are very much fantastic value for money. I also think the golds are great value if you're interested in those things (I'm not, but for those who are then it's great.)

[chrono]

omg thank you