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[vintageSW77]

I like Harry Hill but he has embraced the mainstream somewhat.
However there was a gag about an african aids orphanage and he did have Hitler fighting with Heather Mills on the not as good as it used to be TV Burp so all is not lost.

[gilgalad70]

So lets have a look at the whole thing.

Brand sleeps with girl from Burlesque group called Satanic Sluts and is a wholesome human being therefore.

Brand/Ross record the show, and ask Sachs for permission, permission denied, but broadcast anyway.

Two people complain on the night.

8 days later, after no further complaints, Mail on Sunday who naturally have no axes to grind with Ross, Brand or BBC do article on it.

Dirt hits the fan....

Yep, it's a Brass Eye bandwagon jumper, take a choice on episode, Cake, or that one suggesting paedos can control kiddies computers etc etc.

Or Jerry Springer the Opera... 45 thousand complaints BEFORE broadcast, thanks to Jeremy Vine and the Christian Funda Mentalists.

Sachs accepted both apologies that were made in private, but the meeja want PUBLIC apologies... Why?

Was there really this much axe grinding desire for retribution when Kenneth Williams etc talked in Polari on Beyond the Horne, or Frost did his stuff on TW3?

[MikeDonovan]

They did go a bit too far this time, but as has been noted here there are a few facts that aren't being very well reported : -

a) She's a burlesque dancer in a troupe called "The Satanic Sluts"
b ) She did have a sexual relationship with Russell Brand
c) The producer of the show actually played the segment down the phone to Sachs the morning before the broadcast to get his ok to play it.
d) The total number of complaints from actual listeners of the broadcast was 2 - and that was because of Ross's use of the work f**k, not the content. The remaining 17,998 complaints came after the Daily Mail ran the story.

Like I say, they went a bit far. But let's not forget the fact that she is shamelessly milking this for her 15 minutes of fame, and has already made a fair amount from the redtops from this story. As Vintage says, I have no doubt she'll be in Nuts or Zoo in a couple of weeks. I have some sympathy for Sachs - no-one wants to hear that sort of thing about a grand-daughter - but it's not clear to me why he didn't just say "Don't play it"??

Certainly there's no doubt this has turned into a witch-hunt. What bothers me most is that we're now in a world where people who didn't even listen to the show can cause it to come off-air. Yet another democratic victory against free speech?

Edited by MikeDonovan, 30 October 2008 - 06:02 PM.

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gilgalad70, on Oct 30 2008, 01:16 PM, said:

Yep, it's a Brass Eye bandwagon jumper, take a choice on episode, Cake, or that one suggesting paedos can control kiddies computers etc etc.

My thoughts exactly.

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MikeDonovan, on Oct 30 2008, 06:01 PM, said:

c) The producer of the show actually played the segment down the phone to Sachs the morning before the broadcast to get his ok to play it.

I have some sympathy for Sachs - no-one wants to hear that sort of thing about a grand-daughter - but it's not clear to me why he didn't just say "Don't play it"??

If you go to the BBC website and listen to the interview they have with Andrew Sachs you'll find that he did in fact ask them not to make the broadcast but they ignored his wishes and broadcast it anyway.

[selby]

I think its stupid all they said was the truth and now shes gone and sold her story to the paper so really shes the "disgusting one" I like both Ross and Brand. Brand hardly did his show anyway and has a bright future what I will support. If BBC sack Ross there stupid as he will just go to itv and it will be there loss. I listened to the show and didn't find it offensive especially as sacks heard it before it aired and bbc aired it anyways thats not ross or brands fault thats there fault. I think its been blown out of proportion and shows how pathetic some people can be.

Edited by selby, 30 October 2008 - 07:25 PM.

[snot182]

In a shocking turn of events, Sachs' granddaughter is on the front of this weeks ZOO magazine.

im sure she makes her granddad proud  

[Count Fooku]

Amazed it took her so long!

[Lizzy]

Yea, its awful of her to do that- trivialises what the whole argument was about! We all say and joke about things in the heat of the moment we regret- what shouldn't have happened is that the producers aired it regardless.