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[wiccawise21]

Cazzie15, on Jul 21 2005, 05:55 PM, said:

wiccawise21, on Jul 21 2005, 11:09 AM, said:

Queen_Sindel, on Jul 21 2005, 08:29 AM, said:

wiccawise21, on Jul 20 2005, 10:12 PM, said:

i dont remember that they had taken it out? i was under the assumption it was still there.

i could be wrong though.

=x=

They took it out of the cabinet, at least per the German version. I borrowed the English book to someone, so I can't check.

The only thing that is said there is that they couldn't open it.

arrr. ok.

as for ginny.. i think you are right photo auror. ginny is in danger no matter what. and it doesnt matter fi they are together anyway.... if harry still has feelings for ginny and voldemort found out it would have the same effect regardless.

tut! hes too noble!

=x=

i disgaree.  i think that it would be the same situationa s with sirius.  Voldemort used sirius to lure harry away to the ministyr because he knew they were close and harry would do anything to save him.  He just wants to keep her as safe as possible.  Ginny being with him makes her a target.  Of course it could be argued i suppsoe that if their previous relationship was discovered he could use her anyway to get to harry because he still cares for her.  Still i think it best they stay apart for a while, im srtill not really behind the relatuionship, i still see her as a young child

edit: thinking asbout it you know, i dont know why i was surprised about harrya nd ginny  i remember thinking for OOTP that after the whole ginny love interest topic in that book, i wondered if harry would join the list. Strange

yeah.. i see why hes being all nobel but what i meant is kind of what you said afterwards... his feelings will still be the same. you dont just stop liking someone. and if voldemort were to find out... she woudl still be used in the same way regardless.

i used to think of ginny as a child until ootp. if i had been asked before the HBP i woudl have said i didnt want them to get together but i actaully like it because i think ginny has gron and matured. in my mind anyway

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[Jezebel]

How cool is Luna Lovegood?!

I'd rather see Harry with Luna than Ginny. I just haven't taken to Ginny for some reason.

[wiccawise21]

Jezebel, on Jul 22 2005, 11:42 PM, said:

How cool is Luna Lovegood?!

I'd rather see Harry with Luna than Ginny. I just haven't taken to Ginny for some reason.

teehee. i love luna. but i dont htink shes quite harrys type.

listen and me asuming to know what harrys type is!

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[showmasters]

Na... it's got to be Luna and Neville. You can just see JK setting them up together.

Andrea

[alondria]

I wondered about that, the first time you see them in hbp they are together, and the last time you see them they are together





me and my mum think that they will get together and go hunting for the wierd creatures luna believes in while neville goes around collecting rare and magical plants

[Poppy]

nyhobbit79, on Jul 20 2005, 05:33 PM, said:

I loved this book, Harry and Ginny, Snape's evil side being revealed early on, Draco realising things aren't exactly rosy when you work for Voldemort. Dumbledore being killed off is pure genius, gives Harry the gentle push he needs to get him going, you wait once Ron and Hermione die he will be unstoppable, until he realises the only way to kill LV is to let himself die.

AND.....has anyone else registered the importance of GODRIC'S Hollow, as in Mr. Gryfindor himself????

Am re-reading HBP at the moment, slowly this time.

You think Ron and Hermione will die?  i hope not! That would ruin everything for me!  I think Ron and Hermione are gonna be the next Mr and Mrs Weasley (i know literally but also just like molly and arthur in other ways!)

I am the only person that seems to hate the last chapter!  I think its so stupid that they are leaving school.  I am re reading OOTP at the moment and then I am gonna re read the HBP slowly, and then I will see if I feel differently!  LOL

[Photo Auror]

Cazzie15, on Jul 21 2005, 11:55 AM, said:

i disgaree.  i think that it would be the same situationa s with sirius.  Voldemort used sirius to lure harry away to the ministyr because he knew they were close and harry would do anything to save him.  He just wants to keep her as safe as possible.  Ginny being with him makes her a target.  Of course it could be argued i suppsoe that if their previous relationship was discovered he could use her anyway to get to harry because he still cares for her.  Still i think it best they stay apart for a while, im srtill not really behind the relatuionship, i still see her as a young child

edit: thinking asbout it you know, i dont know why i was surprised about harrya nd ginny  i remember thinking for OOTP that after the whole ginny love interest topic in that book, i wondered if harry would join the list. Strange

One of the things I'm considering is the Molly Weasley's clock... where all nine hands of the family are now constantly pointing to "mortal peril".

There was a comment somewhere in the book that the clock has never been wrong before.  This tells me that the entire Weasley family is already targeted.  If Ginny is in "mortal peril" whether she's with Harry or not, the kids might as well enjoy each other's company while they can.

An addendum of personal viewpoint:  I don't think there's IS any such thing as "safety".

Edited by Photo Auror, 25 July 2005 - 02:23 AM.

[Legolassie Malfoy]

Mistress of Malfoy, on Jul 20 2005, 12:40 PM, said:

I love seeing Snape's evil side! Whatever the reasons are, and i'm sure it has a lot to do with Draco, it's still good to see that side of him. If Voldemort trusts him that much I wonder what other naughty things he's been up to?!

I found it amusing that Ron got himself a girlfriend before Hermione got herself a boyfriend, I always thought it would be the other way around.

I do feel sorry for Draco, the thing with Myrtle was really sweet. But I still kinda like him being evil! As long as Harry doesn't try to kill him (again!), i'll be happy.

I also liked the fact that Harry got himself a girl, especially one who has the same sort of attributes as his mother! Maybe he is becoming more like his dad... I wonder what Sirius would've said about it?

I too liked the fact that Snape become evil.  The whole thing with Ginny did annoy me on occasion.  I don't know why it just did.  







I will post more thoughts when I have more time and I feel better.

[Big_Pants]

I was reading the book at work and when Dumbledore was Dumblegone I had to go to the lav for a snivel.  It's about time JK killed off one or two of the villains as she's done some damage to the good side.  
Draco became a far more interesting character, I look forward to Tom Felton getting to stretch is acting skills a bit when they make the film rather than just sneer (which admitedly he does very well).
I think Snapes gonna end up being good, don't ask me why I just have a feeling.  And what was Dumbledore going on about when he drank the poison and said it was his fault?  Interesting.

[wiccawise21]

heres a thought...

im rereading HBP and the minute and somethng occurred to me?

why did Dumbledore finally gove snape the DADA job? especially if DD knows about the curse and that no teacher will last more than a year. well... what if DD knew right from the beginning that snape would be leaving by the end of the year? the curse would ensure it and it would highlight to voldemort how 'good' snape was at agining dumbldores trust.

i just think it adds a little more weight to the 'snape is good 'theory.'

what do you think?

=x=

[Davey]

Im still waiting to re read it, my mum still hasnt finished it yet  

[queen_meanie]

wiccawise21, on Jul 27 2005, 08:02 AM, said:

heres a thought...

im rereading HBP and the minute and somethng occurred to me?

why did Dumbledore finally gove snape the DADA job? especially if DD knows about the curse and that no teacher will last more than a year. well... what if DD knew right from the beginning that snape would be leaving by the end of the year? the curse would ensure it and it would highlight to voldemort how 'good' snape was at agining dumbldores trust.

i just think it adds a little more weight to the 'snape is good 'theory.'

what do you think?

=x=

hi I'm a bit slow!! i've only just finished!!

but wasn't there something in the argument between DD and snape?? where snape said he didn't want to do it???? or am i just cracked?? could that have been DD telling snape that he had no choice but to kill him?? therefore i still think snape is good!! LOL    

after all DD knew that snape had taken the unbreakable vow didn't he??

i'm a bit confused on where i read it but i'm sure harry informed DD at some point when he overheard snape and malfoy.

i can't wait til the next book and at least now that they aren't going back to hogwarts they have all the time they need to hunt voldy for years if thats the way JK wants to take it. I can't see Harry finding 4 horcrux's in a few months and destroying them can you??

[wiccawise21]

queen_meanie, on Jul 27 2005, 04:30 PM, said:

wiccawise21, on Jul 27 2005, 08:02 AM, said:

heres a thought...

im rereading HBP and the minute and somethng occurred to me?

why did Dumbledore finally gove snape the DADA job? especially if DD knows about the curse and that no teacher will last more than a year. well... what if DD knew right from the beginning that snape would be leaving by the end of the year? the curse would ensure it and it would highlight to voldemort how 'good' snape was at agining dumbldores trust.

i just think it adds a little more weight to the 'snape is good 'theory.'

what do you think?

=x=

hi I'm a bit slow!! i've only just finished!!

but wasn't there something in the argument between DD and snape?? where snape said he didn't want to do it???? or am i just cracked?? could that have been DD telling snape that he had no choice but to kill him?? therefore i still think snape is good!! LOL    

after all DD knew that snape had taken the unbreakable vow didn't he??

i'm a bit confused on where i read it but i'm sure harry informed DD at some point when he overheard snape and malfoy.

i can't wait til the next book and at least now that they aren't going back to hogwarts they have all the time they need to hunt voldy for years if thats the way JK wants to take it. I can't see Harry finding 4 horcrux's in a few months and destroying them can you??

yeah.. ive said about that argument. its just silly little things that keep popping up in my head. like....

im under the asumption that regulus would have needed to have someone with him to get to the locket. but who was it??? and if regulus was 19 at the time (according to lexicon) it has to be someone under 17. the boat would only take one wizard.

so who do we know that would be under 17 the year james and lily were killed?

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[GoldenGreen]

I had guessed it was coming, but hadn't expected Dumbledore to die until book 7, the whole Obi Wan-Kenobi thing, with him having to die so that Luke, I mean Harry could then go on and defeat Voldemort.

The Ginny and Harry thing made sense, if you go back to the earlier books Ginny had had a crush on Harry before, and over the last two books she had really grown up and Harry had started seeing her not just as Ron's little sister. With her role in the DA, and also the Quidditch team it was always on the cards.

Now, concerning them splitting up, doesn't make sense, I know Harry is trying to be all noble and everything, but on the basis that he is rubbish at Occulemency and that Voldemort is most likely to target someone important to Harry, then Ginny would be the main target I would think if Voldemort wanted to lure Harry somewhere. I guess in a way he already did this previously with the Riddle diary, but I think she would probably be safer being with Harry, Ron and Hermione than not.

Is Snape good or bad, perhaps it is the whole Vader / Emperor thing going on here, and that Dumbledore knew that Snape had to get close again to Voldemort to get in his inner circle, he could only do this by killing Dumbledore and then when the final battle ensues between Harry and Voldemort, Snape will reveal his true side and help Harry kill Voldemort but die in the process. Snape is just about the best Wizard around at Occulemency , so it is likely only him and Dumbledore could have kept this a secret from Voldemort.

Great book though, and needed the tissues !

[IloveSpike]

Ok I only just finished the book (was on holiday with friends the week after it came out and didn't have a chance to read so started this week and am not particularly fast!)

I dunno, I didn't really like this book that much, the whole Ron/Hermione, Harry/Ginny and the backstory of Voldermort just seemed to drag on a bit too much for my liking... for me it didn't really pick up with the usual "can't put it down" that for me in the other books lasted most of the way through, this time it was only the last 5 chapters ish that I found "moreish." But obviously I'm gonna read on with the last book when it comes out (eventually!)

I'm still a bit cross with myself, I actually felt sorry for Voldermort... I know the whole orphanage thing was trying to do that but the sympathy I felt didn't really feel like it had much to do with that... yeah I know I'm weird!

Also does anyone else think it's a bit weird that Harry doesn't actually come face to face with Voldermort atall in this book... maybe something about numbers as 3 didn't have any either.... 3, 6 - common numbers? It's a little far fetched but I'm probably only thinknig it coz I was fully expecting some sort of face to face battling especially since there wasn't much in OOTP either... I guess it's all just a big build up for the final showdown in book 7...

Anyways I'm off to speculate!

[showmasters]

I wasn't too upset about Dumbledore's death, especially compared to Sirius' death. I think that had a lot to do with the speculation beforehand (not on this forum!) about who was going to die. I KNEW it was going to be Dumbledore (especially after the whole thing with the betting company closing the books when several large bets were put on Dumbledore in the city where the books were printed). There was no great shock like there was with Sirius. It did kind of spoil it for me. I spent whole chapters just waiting for the death scene.
Next time I'm just going to lock myself away for 6 months so I don't find out ANYTHING about the last book!

Andrea

[cat_b]

I figured Dumbledore would die (I thought he was going to die in the last book actually) but I don't think he is totally gone I still think part of him is alive, he has to turn up in the next book some how to help Harry out.

Never figured out Harry & Ginny getting together at all but new Ron & Hermoine would get together in the end its been hinting at it for so long now.

Still not 100% sure about Snape, if you remember the beginning of the book and the unbreakable curse that Snape done with Draco's mother Snape had no choice but to kill Dumbledore or he himself would have died but think Dumbledore knew this and he was not worried about, i'll have to wait and see what happens to Snape in the next book.

The next book should be really good with them now all looking for the Horcrux's but will be strange with them not being at Hogwarts now, I think they will have to return to Hogwarts at some point maybe for the final big battle.

Only thing that I did not like about this book were, when Harry & Dumbledore were trying to get the Horcrux and they went across the river with all the dead bodies in it remind me alot of the Dead Marsh in Lord of the Rings other than that it was an ok book.

[Big_Pants]

I'm gonna miss Hogwarts but I bet Harry ends up being a teacher.  And I had managed to avoid all spoilers so was shocked at Dumbledore's death hence my snivelling in the bogs at work.

[Mistress of Malfoy]

It's all very exciting speculating about what's going to happen next, the suspense is killing me! It's also driving me insane... well, more than usual. Wondering about the events and how they will effect the next book is so mentally exhausting, but fun.

I keep meaning to re-read the book, but I can't bring myself to do it, i'm not ready to put myself through the drama and the agony, the extreme pain.... Especially of having to read the bit where Pansy bloody Parkinson touches Draco's hair! That's not allowed! How can Draco go around having perfect hair if she has had her hands all over it?! I tell you! It's wrong and I am not amused. What would Lucius say? Would he approve? I think not! Not impressed, that girl needs a slap.
If there's any hair stroking to be done for any of the Malfoy's, I volunteer myself to do it. I've had plenty of experience.

[Cazzie15]

i understand where your coming form with ginny being in danger with or without harry nearby but perhaps tis best that they arent togetehr becasue she would be a distraction? if she was with him, knowing harry he would be more worried about her being ok than paying attention to the horcruxes and find them/getting them.  

if he succeeds shell (hopefully) still be there when hes finished voldy off.

i did actually feel slightly sorry for tom, if his life had been just a little different, if his mom hadnt died then he probably wouldnt have turned out the way he did.

looking forward to tom playing draco as well, thats if he continues in the films of couirse.  i wonder if theyll make him cry.  actually that whole scene where harry uses dark magic against him will probably be really good - scary but good