Maybe there should only be one?

[quigon]

Hi just thinking with 2 collectormanias a year, maybe if there was only one LFCC I/we would have more money by the time I/we went to each event.

As SM bring great guests to all their events it is very hard to get everyone I want.

Wondering what you guys think?

[martine]

yes it would def. work for me, since i save on planetickets, hotelcosts etc... all money i otherwise would spend at the lfcc on autographs and stuff.

 

also there is plenty of room for more guests at the venue so it would be great to have it packed like te last collectormania (+50 guests) and you're still able to walk around and move in a normal way unlike at collectormania where it is difficult to find a free space for a breather.

Edited November 23, 2004 by martine

[C.Parkers-Girl]

CMs May & October and a LFACC march time, LFACC with LOTS of guests tho, would be very very cool. good idea

[bassman]

Would certainly work for me, don't want to kill the golden goose.

[Skylover]

yes it would def. work for me, since i save on planetickets, hotelcosts etc... all money i otherwise would spend at the lfcc on autographs and stuff.

 

also there is plenty of room for more guests at the venue so it would be great to have it packed like te last collectormania (+50 guests) and you're still able to walk around and move in a normal way unlike at collectormania where it is difficult to find a free space for a breather.

good idea, if more guests at each event

[ACW]

Hope you don't mind me disagreeing however I think 4 events a year is ok as not everyone will be able to make all of them and packing one out with guests might be a good attraction but I think this would dilute the popularity of the guests, cost a fortune and if you miss that one, you'll not have another chance for a long while

 

I couldn't go to LFCC2 as it was too soon after CM6 so if anything, space them out a bit more.

[bassman]

Hope you don't mind me disagreeing however I think 4 events a year is ok as not everyone will be able to make all of them and packing one out with guests might be a good attraction but I think this would dilute the popularity of the guests, cost a fortune and if you miss that one, you'll not have another chance for a long while

 

I couldn't go to LFCC2 as it was too soon after CM6 so if anything, space them out a bit more.

Problem is, like it or not, there are many other events on during the year

so clashes would prove inevitable.

There is only so much cash out there to be spent!!

[surfy_sah]

this seems contradictory...

 

the first person says have less events cause it costs too much

 

then some one agrees but implies have less events so they can go to other events - what is going on!!!

 

 

it might be wise to spread events out a little more e.g. c6 this year VERY close to LFACC2 but haven't SM said elsewhere it was dependant on the times the Wembly venue was free? and of course, they don't want their event to clash with others - for example, B'Ham is this weekend is it not? and if it was more towards this end of November they run the risk that people are busy with Christmas and don't have enough money.

 

having MANY guests e.g. 50/60 like c6 at LFACC wouldn't work - there aren't enough days, how would you meet them all? and how would all the talks etc be fitted in? and how does it cost less (NOT considering flights / expensive hotels) cause lots of guests might equate to LOTS of autos and some people don't have the bank balance to be able to do all that at once

 

flights / transport costs / hotel rooms are a problem for a lot of people (apart from the lucky buggers who live in MK ) maybe it's worth looking at ways to minimise these by e.g. staying at a B&B not a hotel or trying to car share / get bus not train etc etc

 

personally events aren't JUST about guests and dealers room for me. I plan to go to LFACC3 even if I don't want to meet a SINGLE person! I will ask to crew and see all my friends and people from the forum that I only get to see at events, 4times a year isn't that much from that point of view so I will take every oppurtunity!

 

surfy sah xx

 

 

edit: spelling typos

Edited November 23, 2004 by surfy_sah

[theoden_of_rohan]

I can't wait that long between events

[POTATOES]

LEE

 

*stalks*

[theoden_of_rohan]

NAOMI

 

*is stalked

[POTATOES]

NAOMI

 

*is stalked

ure too quick for me im eating at the same time

[theoden_of_rohan]

ure too quick for me im eating at the same time

Multi-tasking!!!

 

Clever...very very clever

[nicky]

As SM bring great guests to all their events it is very hard to get everyone I want.

Not all fans are the same though...

 

I met 3 people at C6 as opposed to 12 people at LFCC2. A fan's desire to meet a guest ranges from fan to fan depending on what they're into. And anyway the shows are announced months in advance...plenty of warning time. I'd have thought it was only kids or students that had to worry about money anyway.

 

And yes, I fly over too from abroad. I have no problem with regards to money when it comes to guests cos I plan ahead.

Edited November 23, 2004 by nicky

[Admiral_Bear]

I think having LFCC twice a year is pushing it a little bit, both in terms of attracting new headline guests and with the amount of money available to be spent by us.

 

I fully realise that CM's pulled the rabbit out the hat at LFFC2 despite the loss of Ron Perlman, but I and quite a few others found C6's guest line up disappionting. . .Too many con circuit veterans we've all seen before.

 

And yes, many of us go to other events too. .some of which have guests SM's can only dream about.

 

I'm not knocking LFCC2. . .hey, I met BURT!!!! But what many people on here have ignored is that only a small handful of guests at LFCC2 had any sort of queue. Most of the other guests were obviously bored out their minds by Saturday lunchtime. . .If no one wants to see these people, why did SM's get them?

 

I would rather have quality over quantity. . .something that I feel SM's need to pick up on instead of their blind obsession with having 30 guests at everything.

 

Maybe spend the same money and get fewer but better guests, especially at Collectormania where the max number was far exceeded last time to the detriment of the event.

[skyriderz20]

Im happy with two events a year.

 

I cant get to Milton Keynes easily, but getting to London is just a coach trip away.

 

I do agree that the shows should be spaced out more through the year, so that if you was to go to both, it would be more affordable.

[Count Fooku]

Frankly even taking into account other rival shows there still arent enough of them for me!

 

The only thing that would be good is if the rival firms talked to each other a bit more. It seems that you get a month - six weeks with two/three major shows near each other then nothing for two or three months.

[nicky]

The reason they are not spaced out apparently is:

 

Cos a lot of people, guests and fans are on holiday during June - Sept.

[DavidB]

Again, it's to do with when venues are actually available ... plus, summer period is just not seen as viable by organisers due to people being away on holiday ... or spending their money ON going away etc ... even the guests will be on holiday possibly! So, while we may WANT them spread out, tis not actually possible really.

[dufresne]

I know they avoid summer months for obvious reasons, but C6 and L2 were far too close together. Especially with certain other high profile shows around the same time, which we DO go to, even if we are banned from breathing their names on here !! I know financial circumstances vary between us all, but very few of us are THAT loaded !!

 

 

To be honest, the calibre of guests SMs now get has FAR FAR outgrown a shopping centre (yes, even one that big and well known). SMs should ditch Collectormania now (or as soon as they reckon it's "established") and hold THREE London shows per year. April, August and December.

 

This is the part where all the teenagers, students etc shout me down because they live in / near MK, don't want to pay admission, etc

 

1. London is a more marketable venue in all respects

2. An admission fee removes freeloaders and gawpers, giving room to move and a better atmosphere.

3. A dedicated hall lends itself better to this type of show than spreading guests around a shopping centre.

 

[dufresne]

Again, it's to do with when venues are actually available ... plus, summer period is just not seen as viable by organisers due to people being away on holiday ... or spending their money ON going away etc ... even the guests will be on holiday possibly! So, while we may WANT them spread out, tis not actually possible really.

So much for all those threads where you "don't know" !!

[sadboy]

2. An admission fee removes freeloaders and gawpers,

Gotta agree with the gawpers comment, Much as I love the Collectormania events ( Even tho its a 3+ hour drive for me), I do get sick and tired of the gawpers who just get in the way and have no intention of meeting anyone or visiting one of the stalls.

[martine]

this seems contradictory...

 

 

 

having MANY guests e.g. 50/60 like c6 at LFACC wouldn't work - there aren't enough days, how would you meet them all? and how would all the talks etc be fitted in? and how does it cost less (NOT considering flights / expensive hotels) cause lots of guests might equate to LOTS of autos and some people don't have the bank balance to be able to do all that at once

 

 

 

 

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first of all if they would do one lfcc a year it is easy to extend the event with one or two days just like collectormania events. don't see the difference and as long as you're there early you can meet all the guests you want thanks to the virtual tickets. at c6 there where also 50+ guests and almost everybody met who they wanted to meet. and with more guests you can have actors from the same franchises wich will atract more people.

 

the trip and hotel are expensive and it might not be worth to come all that way for one stargate actor, BUT if you have almost an entire cast it will be packed and people are more willingly to come.

 

secondly not all of the guests are doing talks at the lfcc nor do they at collectormania. there still would be plenty of room and time for this. look at lfcc 2. there is the same amount of dealers as there are at collectormania, it's just that they are spread out more. the same goes for other things. there could easily be 20 more guests fitted in without having to cancel the talks.

 

third. save up, a year in advance if you have to. because when you visit 2 events you spend money at those two events. if it's only one event you can lay money aside for the next year.

[Tookie]

We need to remember that Showmaster's are a business; the more shows they can pack into a year, the more money they make, so it's obvious they're going to do as much as they can to maximise their earnings...

 

They don't only put on so many shows a year just for themselves though, they do it because they know not everyone can make every event they want to attend. Personally, it's very hard for me to get to and from the South East of England as I live in the North West, so if I miss one event I'm happy knowing I might make it to the next...

 

If I had my way, SM's would still hold LFACC as often as they do, but take CM out MK and hold it in different parts of the country whenever they could. Collectormania has obviously outgrown TheCentre, but then the problem is finding somewhere else suitable...

[nicky]

If you can't afford it, why not crew?

 

SM as far as I know supply you with accomodation and I suspect that the crew get thier autos for free.

 

Ironic fact: The "gawpers" in the MK Centre are often heard saying things like "my god these people are so sad!". If that is the case then why do they stand around watching for a glimpse of the stars as we do?? The only difference is we pay to meet them and they just stand at the back and stare...don't just stand there - do something, otherwise stop clogging up the place.

Edited November 23, 2004 by nicky