Moderators DavidB Posted September 12, 2010 Moderators Share Posted September 12, 2010 I don't see why anyone would give up hope. No one has indicated that there won't be any more guests, and there's still plenty of time for someone to be announced. There's no reason to be any less optimistic now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becks Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I will be amazed if there are no more guests - guests were announced only weeks before the con last year. Besides, it's in SM's own interest to try for a couple more. I doubt they've given up on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazzzy Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Probubly because both RH and bitten had 4 guests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmy141 Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Probubly because both RH and bitten had 4 guests. But they both had warnings of low ticket sales, there hasn't been a message like that for us yet. And if that was it, wouldn't they say something about it being the final line-up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted September 12, 2010 Moderators Share Posted September 12, 2010 Each event is a separate entity. There's no reason for anyone to take into account what has happened elsewhere. Each event has different costs etc. Roadhouse and Bitten were two new events that were never going to get huge amounts of money thrown at them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazzzy Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Probubly because both RH and bitten had 4 guests. But they both had warnings of low ticket sales, there hasn't been a message like that for us yet. And if that was it, wouldn't they say something about it being the final line-up? not till about a week or 2 before the event no.. or theyd stop selling tickets too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_your_angel_of_music Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Roadhouse and Bitten were two new events that were never going to get huge amounts of money thrown at them anyway. well thats not good - i'd of thought there would be more reason to put more money and effort into new events since some other events are based on past shows that dont air anymore and bitten and roadhouse are aimed at current shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becks Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 well thats not good - i'd of thought there would be more reason to put more money and effort into new events since some other events are based on past shows that dont air anymore and bitten and roadhouse are aimed at current shows. I think it will depend on what the shows in question actually are - Buffy for example while it may no longer be airing, still has an enormous fan base and is followed by people from all around the world, some of whom will come to Hallowhedon. Other shows, although they may currently be airing on TV simply won't be as popular or well-known, or may only be followed by a largely UK audience which limits the potential attendees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackviolett Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Each event is a separate entity. There's no reason for anyone to take into account what has happened elsewhere. Each event has different costs etc. Roadhouse and Bitten were two new events that were never going to get huge amounts of money thrown at them anyway. Well thats really nice to know and shows that Showmasters are really top when it comes to putting the money and effort in to make a good event. Not. We all spent money on the tickets, travel, hotel and we find out that secretly, they just couldnt be bothered to 'throw' money at it to make it decent. Thankfully the guests did make it a great weekend despite the poor party efforts and lack of things to do and now we know why. I also would have thought new shows would be a reason to throw money in, theyre fresh, popular and have a new era of fan base plus all us oldies. The guests for Bitten were fantastic and thank gods for that or it would have been an even poorer show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazzzy Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 (edited) well thats not good - i'd of thought there would be more reason to put more money and effort into new events since some other events are based on past shows that dont air anymore and bitten and roadhouse are aimed at current shows. I think it will depend on what the shows in question actually are - Buffy for example while it may no longer be airing, still has an enormous fan base and is followed by people from all around the world, some of whom will come to Hallowhedon. Other shows, although they may currently be airing on TV simply won't be as popular or well-known, or may only be followed by a largely UK audience which limits the potential attendees. I dont think theyd throw an event for a show they dont think has a big enough fanbase though? itd be way too risky and weathera thats the case or not.. its probubly not a good idea to tell possible attendees that money wasnt gunna be thrown at an event wen no 2 has been announced... Edited September 13, 2010 by Sazzzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen_Sindel Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I think David more meant that for events with established fan bases like Buffy they can get more expensive guests like Anthony Head or James Marsters right away because they know that these guys will sell a certain number of tickets. Bitten was unknown territory there, no way to tell if Anna or Stephen would have sold out the show. Roadhouse was difficult too. Just look at Abrams Inc. They had Michael Emerson announced there, who's a guest that pops up on most Lost fan's "want to meet" lists. Still the event failed and didn't sell enough tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted September 13, 2010 Moderators Share Posted September 13, 2010 (edited) I think what I said has been misunderstood. What I mean is that there wouldn't be a bottomless amount of money for a new convention that is completely unproven. For example, they would never have gone ahead and announced 6 guests upfront for Roadhouse or Bitten when they didn't know how successful the event was going to be. Any organiser has to feel things out, see what the market is like etc, and build on it. Even shows like Collectormania started off cautiously. True Blood certainly hadn't even been tested in a signing event environment for example, and so was a huge risk jumping straight in. Sorry if people have taken that the wrong way and feel like an event isn't going to be supported. That isn't the case whatsoever. It's just having an understanding of why 'we need to sell more tickets to get more guests' is even more the case with new events. And I'm glad this is understood above Edited September 13, 2010 by DavidB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becks Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I dont think theyd throw an event for a show they dont think has a big enough fanbase though? itd be way too risky and weathera thats the case or not.. its probubly not a good idea to tell possible attendees that money wasnt gunna be thrown at an event wen no 2 has been announced... No, but some events will obviously be expected to attract a wider audience than others. I don't suppose it is clear right away of how large demand for an event will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Ryan Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 (edited) Well considering the success of last years Hallowhedon, I hope that Showmasters will be putting their all into it and pulling out all the stops for an even better event this year - as Hallowhedon is a tried tested and successful convention in my oppinion. there was 3 of us who came last year and we'er bringing along another friends 3 this year! Edited September 14, 2010 by Dan Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazzzy Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 How are we doing for ticket sales? has any got low?...can we have a roguh estmate about how many left? x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted September 18, 2010 Moderators Share Posted September 18, 2010 There are announcements if anything's low. They don't give regular updates otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazzzy Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 i got told theres less then 10 gold left.. obviously i dont know if this is TRUE but if it is shouldnt there have been an update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonsanddaffodils Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 sometimes they do give an update yes, often just for how many actual passes are left. Yvie is the Online shop lady I will change the title FAO her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazzzy Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 thank you :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosen108 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 i brought gold ticket in advance when ASH got annonced unsure on the success of Hallowhedon1 and guests list i saw ..i was like if this Hallowhedon 1 then wow carnt wait see who on this one..so far good group people but i still hoping for xtra few guests to really get me excited not that im not now.but i look on site everyday day just double check ..this first covention so looking forward to it and hope be really special few days n meet alot of great people x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazzzy Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 you will have a great time i can agrentee that, iv been to a few massive events conventions and was at hw1 and iv always always had an amazing time, theres alwats bad and good to a con but the good usualy out ways the bad.. and for meeting new people, its whedon fans, were alll very social.. do agree a few more guests wud be nice x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowmarlin Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Every time I check the forum, I'm hoping to see a new guest announcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazzzy Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Every time I check the forum, I'm hoping to see a new guest announcement. me toooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touchstone Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Every time I check the forum, I'm hoping to see a new guest announcement. me toooo and me it's become somewhat of a daily ritual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Ryan Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Every time I check the forum, I'm hoping to see a new guest announcement. me toooo and me it's become somewhat of a daily ritual saaame, i think i check the front page about 15 to 20 times a day... no joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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