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#1 DavidB

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Posted 07 January 2005 - 01:33 AM

This is a thread for everyone to talk about WWE's RAW show, aired on Monday nights LIVE now in the UK!

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3rd January 2005

Matches:

Batista beat Chris Benoit
Edge beat Chris Jericho
Shelton Benjamin beat Sylvain Grenier
Trish Stratus beat Victoria
Christian beat Eugene

Main Event - Randy Orton beat HHH
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I thought this week's show was really good, especially it being the first live Raw in this country! It was a great way to kick off things, and an ideal way to set up the Raw Pay Per View - New Year's Revolution, this Sunday (free on Sky Sports!).

I think they've done a good job of making the Elimination Chamber match at the PPV mean something, especially with it being for the vacant title ... but with the Beat The Clock matches last week, and the one-on-one matches this week, the match is going to be great once all the guys are in the ring at the same time!

Batista's being pushed really well, more so than Randy Orton now I think, but that's to do with the fans. I know Randy was being lined up as the next Stone Cold of sorts but it all seemed a bit forced compared to when the fans made Austin what he was. They're getting behind Batista now, so it shows who's in control really out of Vince and the fans!

The womens matches are getting better, but this weeks was not important as it was set up more for Trish vs Lita leading onto Snitsky and the return of Kane! They seemed to mess that up a bit though with random pyros lol

Eugene might have lost, but I still think he's a great character, especially with Regal who has been hilarious and I hope they don't make him a heel any time soon .. he seems to go back to that too quickly!

The Jim Ross & Jerry Lawler/Mohammad Hussan & Khosrow Daivari debate was ok for what it was, but not my kinda thing! I prefer to see wrestling and it all seemed a waste of time. Not like Jerry Lawler vs Mohammad is gonna be a good match at the PPV is it? King's old! But then so is Ric Flair and he's not showing any signs of stopping either!

Anyway I think that this Raw was as good as it could have been to set up everything for this Sunday and I'm looking forward to a few of the matches on that card, but especially the main event :P

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Posted 11 January 2005 - 04:43 PM

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10th January

Matches:

Shelton Benjamin beat Maven
M. Hassan beat Hurricane
Edge beat Rhyno
Benoit/Jericho beat Christian/Tomko
Christy beat Maria

Main Event: Randy Orton beat Batista
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This week's Raw was not as strong as I thought it could have been. I found it a little too predictable most of the time really.

Shelton beating Maven was nothing new, although at least they vaguely had a match this time ... they just don't seem to click very well, and I'm not sure whether it's Shelton or Maven but something isn't working. I'd put the blame on Maven for not being good enough yet but a sign of a good champion is to carry your opponent to a decent match and make them look good - HHH did with Shelton when he was starting out on Raw.

Hassan's match was pretty basic and just annoyed me that the Hurricane is being used in the way he is - which is basically not being used AT ALL. Take the mask off, get rid of the stale gimmick, and throw him to Smackdown so he can be a decent cocky heel cruiserweight. I hope Hassan gets better in the ring because there's only so much heat you can get on the mic without putting on entertaining matches too.

Edge beating Rhyno ... well, did anyone really expect Rhyno to win? He's another one going nowhere fast, and that's a shame when he can put on good matches when he's given a chance! It would have been more interesting to see HBK cost Edge the match because I'm sure they'll go for HBK/Edge at Wrestlemania? Although I guess if Shawn's in the Rumble too then that's a good way of getting heat between the two - have Shawn eliminate Edge, or the other way ... it would be nice to see Edge stop complaining for a while!

Benoit and Jericho are great in the ring, and they've been announced as facing each other next week on Raw in a singles match. Judging by their previous matches, I'm looking forward to it being a very good one. They're not really being used the way they should be BUT at least they're getting air time and putting on good matches. Christian has always been underrated and I don't think he'll get anywhere stuck with Tyson - although with Eugene's injury, it'd be nice to see Christian and Tomko get the tag titles and hopefully make the tag divison a bit more interesting. Not that there are many decent tag teams so hopefully a few will be brought in.

Christy and Maria in a lingerie pillow fight ... I guess I should be used to this crap being on TV but still, I find it a waste of time and I'd much rather have extended matches and limit the "divas" to small skits.

The main event was not as good as I thought it could have been. I guess they're slowly going down the Batista vs HHH route, maybe with Orton picking up the belt at Royal Rumble, I'm not quite sure ... I don't see HHH wanting to drop it that quickly. But with the 3 men tangled together, maybe a triple threat at Wrestlemania? But that was done last time, so I'd go for a singles match between Batista and HHH cuz that's fresh ... who will they stick Orton against though?
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 05:06 PM

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17th January

Matches:

La Resistance/Maven beat Shelton Benjamin/Hurricane/Rosey
Shawn Michaels beat Christian
Batista beat Viscera
Chris Jericho beat Chris Benoit

Main Event: Kane vs. Gene Snitsky was a no contest.
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Shows in Canada always tend to have a little more excitement to them because of the fans and their different allegiances to the wrestlers - i.e. Christian being favoured over HBK. I think it always adds something fresh to the show and they're always enjoyable to watch - although, to be honest, it'd be nice if they let go of the memories of Bret Hart and the Survivor Series incident.

Hassan was built up again with an appearance in the Highlight Reel, which made sense seeing as the crowd would be behind Jericho even though they are Canadian so may have agreed with some of the Anti-USA comments. They are doing a good job with Hassan's character but I would like to see him have a decent match as well because stories like these may have worked well back with Hulk Hogan and Sgt Slaughter but we've moved a long way since then.

I would have liked Jericho and Benoit to get a bit longer AND have the main event slot because they deserve it a lot more than Kane and Snitsky do - that was a crap match and the ending wasn't even that amazing because it's basically been done before ... and the camera caught Snitsky talking to Kane! Idiot!

HBK and Christian could have been longer too, but they did have a decent match in the time they were given - I guess it was natural to put HBK against Christian when it was in Canada as Shawn was always going to be a heel to the fans in attendance. The match also proved that Christian can put on great matches, as long as he's away from Tyson Tomko! Naturally we carried on the HBK/Edge feud, and I'll admit to being surprised that they're having a match at Royal Rumble, I thought they'd keep them away from each other until Wrestlemania BUT ... perhaps a ladder match at Wrestlemania to blow off the feud? Who knows!

Viscera - sorry but WHY?! What a waste of space. It really really annoys me that WWE let go some decent wrestlers and yet hire someone like him. He wasn't good back when he was Mabel, he wasn't good when he won King Of The Ring, and he's even worse now! No one finds him intimidating or scary just because he's big ... the speed he moves at, you could be a snail and still move out of the way before he gets you! But it was pretty impressive to see Batista do the spinebuster on him ... good way of building him up I guess.

The main thing to watch out for next week is Batista being offered the chance to qualify for the Royal Rumble, and this week HHH said that he shouldn't go for it ... so it'll be interesting to see how they deal with that and whether he'll go for it, or be a surprise entrant at the Rumble itself.
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 08:31 PM

Go team Jericho!!!! I wasn't expecting him to win! Yay!!!!! Very happy bunny here!! :lol:
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Posted 19 January 2005 - 10:28 PM

The third live Raw in the Uk and they finally got the sound right!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 10:46 AM

I'm still getting used to them cutting away during matches for adverts B)
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Posted 20 January 2005 - 06:10 PM

I think a good twist would be to put HHH and Batista in a Royal Rumble qualifying match.

If HHH wins Batista wont particiate in the rumble and backs him up in his match.

If Batista wins he gets to enter the rumble in the number 30 position.

I think this could set things up nicely for a Batista-HHH feud that will culminate in the wrestlemania match (cage maybe?) that every WWE fan wants to see.

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 06:14 PM

Hmm I dunno if they'd wanna give away HHH vs Batista on free tv right now .. I would have gone for a Batista vs Ric Flair match but seeing as they're having Orton vs Flair, that's obviously not possible. I'd look for some kinda twist tho which means Batista has to go into a RR qualifying match.
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Posted 20 January 2005 - 06:23 PM

I think a good twist would be to put HHH and Batista in a Royal Rumble qualifying match.

If HHH wins Batista wont particiate in the rumble and backs him up in his match.

If Batista wins he gets to enter the rumble in the number 30 position.

I think this could set things up nicely for a Batista-HHH feud that will culminate in the wrestlemania match (cage maybe?) that every WWE fan wants to see.

Does anyone agree?

I think that maybe batista will win the rumble and go up agaist triple h for the belt and i think he will get it as much as it pains me to say it :huh:
But it is a match i would love to see

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 08:46 PM

i reckon Orton will win the belt with help from Batista, then there'll be a HHH-Batista feud and Orton vs Chris Jericho for the belt in the main event at wrestlemania!!!!!

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 09:11 PM

i reckon Orton will win the belt with help from Batista, then there'll be a HHH-Batista feud and Orton vs Chris Jericho for the belt in the main event at wrestlemania!!!!!

*prays this is true, but knows it probably won't be!*

i dont know why i just dont see randy orton winning the belt maybe im wrong he is great in the ring tho :blink:

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Posted 26 January 2005 - 09:47 PM

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24th January

Matches:

Shawn Michaels & Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho beat Christian & Tyson Tomko & Edge
Viscera beat Tajiri
Batista beat La Resistance
Muhammad Hassan beat Val Venis
Kane beat Maven and Gene Snitsky

Main Event: Randy Orton beat Ric Flair
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Quite a lot of matches this week although quite a few of them were completely pointless. Val Venis is only used when they need to put someone over, and the same with Tajiri lately. How they can choose to have Viscera in the Royal Rumble instead of talent I don't know! BUT if they use Viscera in the Royal Rumble to put someone over strong by having them eliminate him then I can understand why. It's always interesting to see everyone gang up on the "big men" to get them out ... like Big Show, that built up Benoit when he beat him last year. That is the ONLY reason that Viscera should be there.

There was a lot of crap with JR cuz it was in Oklahoma so that's fair enough, it pleases the live audience there but do people at home really care that much? I can understand that in the end it built up the Randy Orton/Stacy Keibler/Evolution storyline though ... and it did make for an interesting backstage skit involving HHH and Batista who they are building up well!

I like the fact that they are putting Batista over strong, but I'm not sure if it was the best way by using La Resistance - doesn't do much for the tag division does it when one person can beat them?! Especially when they are the champions! Should have used two random wrestlers together instead.

Regal never got a spot in the Rumble and because Tajiri got screwed in his "over the top rope" qualification match against Viscera, they're looking to get revenge on Bischoff so that should be interesting to see. Coach was put in the Rumble ... again WHY?! Maybe they'll set a new fastest elimination time!!

They had as many people on the show as possible really, and did feature all the main players coming up to the PPV ... I'm looking forward to Shawn and Edge the most, and the Rumble match itself :P
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Posted 26 January 2005 - 10:20 PM

what crap did they do with JR

also when can i see raw caus i forget what days its on!
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Posted 26 January 2005 - 10:29 PM

They had it as "JR Day" in Oklahoma or something stupid .. had him get in the ring with Stacy Keibler and an old bloke, wasn't very interesting .. then had HHH come out n treat em all like crap! U know, usual inflated ego work! ^_^

Raw's on LIVE every Monday night at 2am I believe ... and then there's a repeat at 9pm on Weds on SS3.
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Posted 15 February 2005 - 05:11 PM

***Spoiler alert!!!***

Muhammed Hassan beat Chris Jericho.....what the hell are WWE doing??

Have you sat through a Hassan match?? It's got less atmosphere than a space station

WWE needs a smack round the head, what the fudge are they doing?? Allowing Hassan to get a victory over one of the best wrestlers on Raw television, I wouldn't even agree to job to Hassan, and i'm not even a wrestler, disgraceful!!! :huh:

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.....Oh and a whole bunch of horror guests would be absolutely fandabbydozytastic!!!!


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Posted 15 February 2005 - 05:26 PM

DOnt tell me anymore - only taped it, not watched it yet and avoided going onto WWE.com to get the results :huh:

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 07:30 PM

DOnt tell me anymore - only taped it, not watched it yet and avoided going onto WWE.com to get the results :P

Sorry my fellow Midlander, I did empthasise spoiler in the message, guess i'll bit me fingers next time I try to post spoilers ^_^

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 07:57 PM

The thread title says SPOILERS cuz I watch Raw live anyway so I'll always be talking about the results lol

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Who was driving JBL's limo? Obviously WASN'T JBL! Set up by HHH all the way!

Anyone for RIKISHI? :P
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Posted 15 February 2005 - 08:03 PM

The thread title says SPOILERS cuz I watch Raw live anyway so I'll always be talking about the results lol

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Who was driving JBL's limo? Obviously WASN'T JBL! Set up by HHH all the way!

Anyone for RIKISHI? :P

Lol.....all the internet wrestling sites were pointing at Raven & DDP, how disappointed would all of those people have been when they saw Rikishi was the culprit?? I thought he was covering for someone, then they ran the storyline of who put Rikishi up to it?? Then it turned out to be ol' big nose himself Triple H, quite a let down

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Posted 15 February 2005 - 08:16 PM

Well at least Smackdown will be interesting if Batista is gonna be on there!

Hopefully they'll sort it out in ONE show, and not drag it out ... don't really wanna see the hit n run driver scenario done again!

Unless HHH has hired a vaguely decent new person to join Evolution :lol:

Or maybe it's Randy Orton .. that'd shake things up a bit!

OR ...

SNITSKY!

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