Showmasters Admin showmasters Posted September 25, 2009 Showmasters Admin Share Posted September 25, 2009 as some of you know we were told today that john could not make the hub this time i know from talking to Gavin what it has been up in the air and after talking to John today it was decided today that he had to pass on the Hub 3 , Gavin did say that John was very much looking forward to meeting the fans at the event but he just had a lot on at this time . he wants to come to another Hub event in the future and we will work on this for you all . we were also informed that the Collectormaina London date did work well with his schedule and John can attend and is looking forward to attending this event on the 29th of Nov at Olympia we are sad that john cannot attend the Hub but we do understand he gets busy , we do have a great line up already for the Hub so it will still be a great event and we are still working on other guests for the event so the Hub 3 will be amazing and fun see you all soon jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbsq63 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Yes, I know what you say about one guest, BUT.... Well given the fact that this event virtually sold out of higher-priced tickets on the strength of the announcement of John, and that SM did a very clever marketing campaign to ensure that that happened, I do think that some sort of offfer of limited refunds is now in order. I have a gold ticket, which I won't now be using, and somebody else may want. I'd even happily accept the difference between a standard and gold. In the circumstances, for SM not to offer anything would be very poor form, and would not exactly encourage John's legion of fans to book any future SM events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hells childe 17 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Disappointed and gutted but not really a big suprise. Still going and still looking forward to the other guests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avengers7 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Thats really disappointing, especially since there is now only one main cast member attending. However, there are still 11 other excellent guests so it should be a fun weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Who Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I feared this news for such a long time, I'm absolutely gutted but it can't be helped. Pretty please can you bring him to the next Hub, I can't make the London event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarknessHayz Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Ditto what Hells Childe 17 said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absinthefairy88 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Disappointed and gutted but not really a big suprise. Still going and still looking forward to the other guests Couldn't have said it better myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobweb-Girl Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Very disappointed , though I'm not that surprised. Is still looking forward to the other guests though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruth76 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Ditto what Hells Childe 17 said! That sums up my feelings too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectroxGirl Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Aww no So disappointed but it didn't seem likely he'd be able to make it anyway. Looks like I might have to try and get to Collectormania London then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzy88 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaincarpet Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I have expressed my feelings in other posts so wont again. Am looking even more forward to CM now anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted September 25, 2009 Moderators Share Posted September 25, 2009 Yes, I know what you say about one guest, BUT.... Well given the fact that this event virtually sold out of higher-priced tickets on the strength of the announcement of John, and that SM did a very clever marketing campaign to ensure that that happened, I do think that some sort of offfer of limited refunds is now in order. I have a gold ticket, which I won't now be using, and somebody else may want. I'd even happily accept the difference between a standard and gold. In the circumstances, for SM not to offer anything would be very poor form, and would not exactly encourage John's legion of fans to book any future SM events. As much as I sympathise, I have to disagree completely. It was never a 'clever marketing campaign' - it was signing up a main cast member for a convention, who at the time was available to appear. It would have been the same had it been Eve or anyone else. To open up refunds based on the cancellation of a single guest would set a precedent that would cause so many problems in the future. People know that guests can cancel, and it's solely the choice of the individual to risk booking an event based on one single guest. People need to take responsibility for their own actions, and not act as if Showmasters/Massive Events have done something wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bl00djunkie Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 i feel for u guys this happened at the twi proms but it was the 2 main guests..but we still had a great time so dont worry to much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Who Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 (edited) I'm gutted about John's cancellation and can't make the London event so I really do hope that he can come to The Hub 4 if there is one. Are we going to get a guest replacement then? If so please can we have another main cast member or two, like Naoko Mori and Burn Gorman? Pretty please, either of those would be great. Edited September 25, 2009 by Doctor Who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators DavidB Posted September 25, 2009 Moderators Share Posted September 25, 2009 Are we going to get a guest replacement then? If so please can we have another main cast member or two, like Naoko Mori and Burn Gorman? Pretty please, either of those would be great. Jason said they're working on more guests, so while they can't guarantee there'll be additions to the lineup, I'm sure they'll try their hardest to bring some. If not, there's still a substantial lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hells childe 17 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Yes, I know what you say about one guest, BUT.... Well given the fact that this event virtually sold out of higher-priced tickets on the strength of the announcement of John, and that SM did a very clever marketing campaign to ensure that that happened, I do think that some sort of offfer of limited refunds is now in order. I have a gold ticket, which I won't now be using, and somebody else may want. I'd even happily accept the difference between a standard and gold. In the circumstances, for SM not to offer anything would be very poor form, and would not exactly encourage John's legion of fans to book any future SM events. As much as I sympathise, I have to disagree completely. It was never a 'clever marketing campaign' - it was signing up a main cast member for a convention, who at the time was available to appear. It would have been the same had it been Eve or anyone else. To open up refunds based on the cancellation of a single guest would set a precedent that would cause so many problems in the future. People know that guests can cancel, and it's solely the choice of the individual to risk booking an event based on one single guest. People need to take responsibility for their own actions, and not act as if Showmasters/Massive Events have done something wrong. Well said David. I pestered my brother to book for us to go to this one when John was announced, as i had such a good time at the Hub 2 i still wanted to go for that too. Of course i saw it coming when he announced La Cage so i wasn't that suprised. Its what you make it and if your going in with the attitude that its not going to be fun then its not. If they announce a Hub 4 with John to be there i would still book again. just hope its not on Mothers weekend as i won't be able to go to that Party on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Who Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 (edited) Jason said they're working on more guests, so while they can't guarantee there'll be additions to the lineup, I'm sure they'll try their hardest to bring some. If not, there's still a substantial lineup. Thanks for answering. Personally, I do hope they manage to get some more guests (especially Naoko or Burn) but yeah, if they don't there's still a great line-up. I'm sure they'll manage to get at least one replacement, fingers crossed. Edited September 25, 2009 by Doctor Who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzy88 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I'm more disappointed for my mum than me, I convinced her to come as she never does anything for herself and she loves John Barrowman, so now I feel so crap because she'll be spending that money out with no JB That's good to hear he'll be at CM London though, I'm definitely going to that so that'll be quite good. And I'm still really looking forward to this, I'm sure it'll be amazing anyway! Just so long as James Marsters and Gareth don't cancel too lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectroxGirl Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Jason said they're working on more guests, so while they can't guarantee there'll be additions to the lineup, I'm sure they'll try their hardest to bring some. If not, there's still a substantial lineup. Thanks for answering. Personally, I do hope they manage to get some more guests (especially Naoko or Burn) but yeah, if they don't there's still a great line-up. I'm sure they'll manage to get at least one replacement, fingers crossed. I think it's been said previously that Burn is busy on this weekend so my vote is for Naoko! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbsq63 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Yes, I know what you say about one guest, BUT.... Well given the fact that this event virtually sold out of higher-priced tickets on the strength of the announcement of John, and that SM did a very clever marketing campaign to ensure that that happened, I do think that some sort of offfer of limited refunds is now in order. I have a gold ticket, which I won't now be using, and somebody else may want. I'd even happily accept the difference between a standard and gold. In the circumstances, for SM not to offer anything would be very poor form, and would not exactly encourage John's legion of fans to book any future SM events. As much as I sympathise, I have to disagree completely. It was never a 'clever marketing campaign' - it was signing up a main cast member for a convention, who at the time was available to appear. It would have been the same had it been Eve or anyone else. To open up refunds based on the cancellation of a single guest would set a precedent that would cause so many problems in the future. People know that guests can cancel, and it's solely the choice of the individual to risk booking an event based on one single guest. People need to take responsibility for their own actions, and not act as if Showmasters/Massive Events have done something wrong. I didn't actually say, and nor did I mean, that anyone has done anything wrong. I do sympathise with SM, this is an awful thing to happen for them. But there most certainly was a marketing campaign before and during Hub 2 to sell tickets on the strength of John's announcement. It made absolute business sense to do so. Now that he's not coming, people should be offered some sort of choice as to whether they want to or not. To offer nothing is tantamount to saying that if you're solely a John fan (as I am, and therefore really not interested in any of the other guests, lovely people though I'm sure they are), don't bother buying tickets at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Who Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 (edited) I'm more disappointed for my mum than me, I convinced her to come. I'm gutted for my mum too, when Showmasters posted that message earlier that he still plans for the Sunday I told her and she was over the moon as she was only going so she could see John Barrowman. Now he's cancelled, she won't really want to go as she isn't the biggest of Torchwood fans but she will come so that I can go too. Edited September 25, 2009 by Doctor Who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lams9999 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Time for Naoko maybe ? On the other hand, this means that I will not spend any money at this event since I was looking for an additional autograph from John and maybe one from James but now there's no reason anymore. So I will just enjoy my free autographs and my photo shoots included in the silver package. Still looking for the event and ... for Naoko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piksa Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Not a big surprise that I feel disappointed. Was hoping to see John again. Due to not living in the UK my chances of attending different events are pretty limited. I know that's solely my own problem so not blaming anyone for that :) Still I'm sure we'll have a great con! Any chances of getting John to record a message for us so that he could sort of be part of the event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x_moonshine_x Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I didn't actually say, and nor did I mean, that anyone has done anything wrong. I do sympathise with SM, this is an awful thing to happen for them. But there most certainly was a marketing campaign before and during Hub 2 to sell tickets on the strength of John's announcement. It made absolute business sense to do so. Now that he's not coming, people should be offered some sort of choice as to whether they want to or not. To offer nothing is tantamount to saying that if you're solely a John fan (as I am, and therefore really not interested in any of the other guests, lovely people though I'm sure they are), don't bother buying tickets at all. Well, it is a Torchwood convention, not a John Barrowman convention. It has been said from the beginning guests appear subject to work commitments and that no refunds can be given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts